Game Thread: Indiana Pacers Vs. Golden State Warriors
by Tom Lewis on Jan 20, 2012 7:00 PM EST
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| January 20, 2012 - 10:30PM EST | ||
| ORACLE Arena | ||
| Radio: WIBC 93.1FM TV: Fox Sports Indiana | ||
| Probable starters: | ||
| Darren Collison | PG | Monta Ellis |
| Paul George | SG | Charles Jenkins |
| Danny Granger | SF | Dorell Wright |
| David West | PF | David Lee |
| Roy Hibbert | C | Andris Biedrins |
The Indiana Pacers hit the Bay Area on Friday night to resume their road trip against the Golden State Warriors. Both teams suffered tough road losses on Wednesday so there will be no short supply of motivation to win this one.
Former Pacers legend Mark Jackson has already made an impact on the Warriors in his first coaching gig, doing his best to add a little defensive edge to the formerly fast-paced offensive attack. The Dubs remain a work in progress, currently 26th in the league in defensive efficiency but they do count impressive wins over Chicago and Miami among their five W's so far this season showing they have the firepower to take down the league's elite on any night.
The Pacers need to get back to focusing on executing their game plan and working that plan for 48 minutes. The "Breakdown in Sactown" was due in large part to the Pacers straying from their strengths and then being unable to find that groove that had them rolling through three quarters. In other words, if the game has yet to be decided, David West should be on the court in the final three minutes.
Here is the Pacers.com preview. For a Golden State perspective, check out Golden State of Mind. Also, after the game check out Pacers Overtime on WIBC 93.1FM with Eddie White. Need to have an Indy Cornrows mention on the show!
Leave your thoughts and observations on the game in the comments.
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Really looking for a commanding win here tonight.
We’re on the road facing a dangerous Warriors team that can go off on any given night. That said, I think our defense – which leads the league in opponent FG% – can really give these guys fits. Hopefully this one will leave us feeling better than the Sacramento game.
64 comments on Golden State of Mind - They are pumped
Here’s an aside of note:
“Just saw entire pacers team getting off the bus at 4seasons on market street
Hilarious. Lou signing autographs and posing like he’s a celeb
by tafkasam on Jan 20, 2012 12:26 PM PST via mobile reply
continued
So, I’m walking down Market, on my phone, and I notice Brian Shaw. I think he’s in a Warriors sweatsuit and I’m confused, then I double take and notice it’s Pacers. Next thing I notice is how oblivious I was, and how entire Pacers team is getting off a bus to my right..
Hibbert’s skinnier in person than I thought but every bit of 7ft2+.
Ps. I yelled "Roy sign for the dubs this summer!"
He kind of smirked, Lou was laughing and said something I couldn’t hear, Granger kind of mugged me like he wanted to fight. Doesn’t want his big man gone!
by tafkasam on Jan 20, 2012 12:38 PM PST up reply"
Golden state fans
Are very passionate. With only a hand full of successful seasons their fans are some of the truest in all of sports.
by GrangerSCK33 on Jan 20, 2012 9:44 PM EST via mobile reply actions
We will have legs in this game
The Sacramento game went to around midnight Indianapolis time. It takes a few days to manage the shift in time zones, especially if you are running around madly on a basketball court.
Tyler Hansbrough
will have a double-double.
I sure hope they win tonight.
Need this one to avoid slipping and sliding into a potentially bad losing streak.
I really love this Golden State team. They’re probably my third favorite (after the Bulls) in the league. And I dig ’em even more now that they have Brandon. Plus those jerseys are the best in the Association.
Paul George has put up some shots already.
Good to see he’s playing with a little confidence. Too bad he’s not converting.
We're looking very aggressive tonight.
Pretty sure these guys are still pissed about Sacramento.
I don't feel so bad...
… because Sacramento is about to beat San Antonio.
On San Antonio's home court no less...
… where the Spurs are 9-0.
Yeah, that's crazy.
They just handed the Spurs their first home loss.
What the heck?
I’m sure Danny shoved that guy so hard that it sent him flying across the lane. Totally no acting there.
You think they'd give us Ellis for Lou?
They really like Lou there. They’d do that, right?
Maybe that Sacramento game woke Danny up?
Cuz he’s 4-6 tonight in double digits. Hope it sticks.
Can’t have Hill and DC out there at the same time with Monta out there.
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by Bronn on May 17, 2011 4:56 PM EDT
Off topic but Minnesota and Clippers on ESPN
I’m actually looking forward to the Indiana/Minn game just to watch Rubio.
I honestly didn’t think he’d do well in the NBA. He’s looked pretty good. Not sure how his D is.
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by Bronn on May 17, 2011 4:56 PM EDT
Supposedly, his defense is pretty good.
I’m not sure how well he shoots, but his passing and defense are what people are talking about.
Danny always seems
To play well against Golden State. I hope he’s breaking out in a sense, but I’ll need to see more against other teams before I get too excited.
George Hill for Brandon Rush, straight up trade?
We’d get bigger. Taller = better, right?
First quarter, Danny's come to play.
Maintain, Danny G.
Remember when the Warriors ran that exact same play to end the game last year?
The only difference is that last year it was Rush on Monta.
Loved that we only had 2 TOs. Let’s make that a trend.
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by Bronn on May 17, 2011 4:56 PM EDT
Why does PG...
… come out of the game in the first quarter at the 6 minute mark, no matter his efficiency? Anyone know?
How does pushing a guy out of bounds...
… give you the ball?
This second unit is beyond horrible.
Get PG in there or something.
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by Bronn on May 17, 2011 4:56 PM EDT
If you think about it, it's really just the lack of Foster that hurts the second unit.
When he’s out there, they do SO much better.
I’m thinking Bird has to make some kind of trade to get a SG.
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by Bronn on May 17, 2011 4:56 PM EDT
A backup Center.
Lou doesn’t bring enough, and Foster may only play half the season.
Sunday may suck.
Lakers coming off a bad loss to Orlando.
In order for Lance to be effective...
I believe he has to be on the floor with some of the starters. He’s a drive and dish player and needs people who can score around him.
I think the bench is better with AJ.
They seem more organized when he is over Lance.
Jones needs to understand
That he’s not a terrible scorer when we have all bench players on the floor he should have the Green light. When more than one starter is out ther with him???? Pass.
peac.e
He says that everytime he shoots it
You haven’t noticed that yet?
Unless it’s a wide open jumper…he’s going to say “And One”
Like a nervous tick.
peac.e
For the life of me
I’ll never understand why Vogel keeps DC on the bench for over half the 2nd qtr.
I think Danny should always be out there...
…when we have Amundson, Hansbrough, and Jones/lance on the court.
peac.e
That play where the 2 warriors players ran into each other was a travel
They hit each other and the guy with the ball took 2 or 3 steps.
Danny G knocking down his perimeter shots.
Even though it’s after a whistle, good to see him hit the dead ball shot.
Good
Glad to see. Hopefully I can catch a good second half!
David West is hurt...
… so we kill Monta Ellis’ future children? Good trade off.
They're great
Just the type of humor I get up for. I wish there were more, but having more might kill the mood of them. The spinning basketball is out of this world funny.
Did not see big chunk of 1st half.
Saw only last min when hill air balled a 3. Has Brandon rush seen any playing time? Doing like how he did as a pacer or playing better?
Exactly the same as the Pacers
From what I’ve seen. Hit an opening shot, average defense, then disappeared or went back to the bench, I’m not sure which.
Rush looks OK
***Forever Grunge...Man!***
*If Sacremento Sucks, then what are the Pacers?*
by rockguyinindy on Jan 20, 2012 11:45 PM EST up reply actions
Kevin Love is an awesome old school PF
It just goes to show that jumping real high and fancy dunks aren’t everything.
K-Love=Remarkable
***Forever Grunge...Man!***
*If Sacremento Sucks, then what are the Pacers?*
by rockguyinindy on Jan 20, 2012 11:46 PM EST up reply actions
Not likely to see the game.
Does anyone know if streams can be played using iPad?
Haha, did anyone just see PG...
… just air-ball that dead-ball 3?
Did anyone think for a second...
…That Tyler was going to shoot that 25 footer from the top of the key on that last possesion?
peac.e
The hell is DC doing?
Back-to-back stupid decisions.
Hibbert has only 5 shots. They can’t defend against him. Why are we going away from Hibbert??/
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by Bronn on May 17, 2011 4:56 PM EDT
That is a great question.
It doesn’t make sense why you don’t exploit weaknesses. It seems like such a simple concept.
what is the deal with not being able to finish.
I have an idea
DUNK the f*cking ball.
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by Bronn on May 17, 2011 4:56 PM EDT
So David and Danny can't get fouls.
Good to know.
I really like the intensity that West brings.
Like our version of Garnett.
Vogel better tell these guys to keep pounding the ball. When you are in the penalty there should be no reason to settle for jumpers. They’ll be tentative in the post.
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by Bronn on May 17, 2011 4:56 PM EDT
+1
Something they def need to take advantage of.
They have. I meant that they better not go away from it.
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by Bronn on May 17, 2011 4:56 PM EDT
I was agreeing
But they have tended to step away from doing that once they’ve gotten in the penalty.
It's so exciting knowing that Roy...
… can’t hit FTs anymore. Turning more into Dwight every day.
Rather hear that
Than the ESPN crew talk about Mark Price for an extended period of time in the first quarter of Magic/Lakers.
Why is the game close?
Shouldn’t we be pulling away in the third and make it close in the fourth?
I wonder if he'll continue to shy away from contact if he adds a little more muscle.
Not sure how that usually works.
by dustinpurvis on Jan 21, 2012 12:09 AM EST up reply actions
he seems like he doesn't have a clear plan when he goes to the basket
He needs to make up his mind and execute.
We have two guys playing good offensively this game.
Granger and West. Everyone else is shooting under 40%, save for Hill who is 2-5.
Like Granger...
…they’re having him do things offensively he’s not particularly good at.
OMG, Golden States dancers...
… are aaaawesome.
I have no clue why coach keeps Hill out there on Ellis. Just bad coaching if you ask me. This is a game where you have to use someone like Lance or even AJ more.
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by Bronn on May 17, 2011 4:56 PM EDT
It's about the lesser of evils.
Monta is arguably the second best SG in the West. He’s an offensive monster.
Rush seems to have lost that "I'm always high look"!
by FortWayneKarl on Jan 21, 2012 12:11 AM EST via mobile reply actions
I hate DJ with every fiber of my being. He’s the only Pacer I can’t stand.
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by Bronn on May 17, 2011 4:56 PM EDT
I wish he’d tear both ACL’s
by FortWayneKarl on Jan 21, 2012 12:14 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Nifty pass by Hans!
Can’t believe I said that!
by FortWayneKarl on Jan 21, 2012 12:13 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Tough to play D...
… against guys knocking down 20-ft jump shots.
No block out
Pacers quit the third quarter early
by FortWayneKarl on Jan 21, 2012 12:16 AM EST via mobile reply actions
They seem to have this strategy where they go to Roy early, and he looks good, and then go away from him for the rest of the game.
He could have a legitimate shot at a 20/20 game tonight.
by dustinpurvis on Jan 21, 2012 12:17 AM EST up reply actions
Hibbs reverts to posting high too – needs electrocuted in the nuts every time he does that!
by FortWayneKarl on Jan 21, 2012 12:20 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Games like this make me miss
Reggie, Davis boys, smits, jalen, jackson and mull in
David West is beyond strong.
He moved Udoh with no effort.
Probably his best game since joining the team.
He line would probably be even more impressive if Hibbert wasn’t eating all the boards.
by dustinpurvis on Jan 21, 2012 12:24 AM EST up reply actions
Nate Robinson is an impressive player.
Guy has so much energy. Guess that’s what happens when you’re the size of a toddler.
NBA TV cut to the game
And I saw my sister behind the Pacers Bench
So...
… the Pacers are best in the league in opponent FG%. Next best is Chicago, by almost 1%. Is this legit?
Love that this game is close. Been a fun game to watch.
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by Bronn on May 17, 2011 4:56 PM EDT
heh, that would be awesome.
Been stuck on 16 for a while.
by dustinpurvis on Jan 21, 2012 12:31 AM EST up reply actions
Wow, you guys are stupid.
Roy gets the ball for nine minutes in the post and NO one comes to help?
Total basket interference.
It was on the rim. Love the crappy no-call.
My God, such BS.
Teams that only shoot jump shots need to be put out to pasture.
Live and die by the jump shot.
Grats, Warriors. You’ll never win a best of seven series.
Does he kinda look like a girl...
…with a glue on beard?
I like the dude, and we all know he’s got a baby face.
But he just looks creepy.
Ever seen his sister????
peac.e
West won't draw a foul.
Not sure why, but he’s getting knocked around and isn’t getting his whistles.
You know what's bullshit about the 24 second clock?
If a team knocks it away and you have to fight over the ball, how is that a violation? If you lose the ball and it becomes loose, how is that a violation?
Pacers are going to lose.
Because they have no offense.
If we lose, it's on Collison.
1-12. So damn pathetic.
Great play by Hill
But that stupid Toad is probably a little right.
Lucky Ellis was feeling it too much.
peac.e
Marc Jackson needs to run a little. He’s so fat.
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by Bronn on May 17, 2011 4:56 PM EDT
That's what happens when you make millions.
You don’t have to be good looking. lol
Dahntay Jones giving George Hill...
… the unnecessary bear hug.
Well...this team is rounding into shape.
And by that I mean, we are getting a feel for who they are.
Will finish the season .580
peac.e
10-4 through the easy portion of the schedule
Not a bad place to be. I’m sure we all would’ve taken it even if two of the losses were to Detroit and Sacramento.
But then come the playoffs and it's all new.
I can see them getting swept in the first round or winning a game or two in the ECF. They’re going to be that infuriating.
peac.e
Yeah, but we definitely need Hans to step it up.
West is looking better and better. Love it.
Hibbert with a career high 16 boards. Dude wants to get $$$
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by Bronn on May 17, 2011 4:56 PM EDT
I know Hansbro doesn't have a good FG% anyway, but he looked better in the beginning
of the year when he wasn’t passing to anyone. Maybe those assists are affecting his shot? (I don’t believe that either.)
As good as Monta played...
… Danny still shot better and scored more.
Woah you're right.
I double-checked the box score because I didn’t believe you.
by dustinpurvis on Jan 21, 2012 12:51 AM EST up reply actions
If Danny's shot is falling.
And he’s playing his best defense….then yes.
Otherwise, Ellis is more dynamic and harder to replace.
peac.e
Dude is a second rounder.
Can’t understand how a guy as good as he is on the offensive end falls to the second round.
6'1ish combo guard coming straight outta HS
that’s how
"He's like Darth Vader." - Frank Vogel on Larry Bird
don't know
but I’m all for drafting Damian Lillard. my new favorite Pacer prospect.
"He's like Darth Vader." - Frank Vogel on Larry Bird
they probably thought he was too small for off guard
sometimes its hard to tell how a guy will fare in the NBA
For as bad as basketball all around has been
This was really a great game to watch. Thrilling, everything that makes the NBA great. Shame no one saw this or will ever see this game but us and Warriors fans.
lol I swear, I just got my bachelor's there, and until listening to the Toronto announcers a couple weeks ago, I had NEVER heard that.
by dustinpurvis on Jan 21, 2012 12:57 AM EST up reply actions
he went to school there in the late 90s so maybe the oooey poooey was discontinued
or not encouraged by the administration. I don’t know anyone who goes there now, so I don’t know if they still called it that.
This comment...
… is the goodest comment. He was 1-12 and would jack up 20-footers with 20 seconds on the shot clock.
And then there were those.
Had like 3 or 4 really bad jumpshots, some in transition….very S-Jacksonesque.
peac.e
Yeah.
He started attacking the lane early and they were expecting it so he never got those easy looks late in the 2nd early in the 3rd.
I keep saying he’s getting those high % looks later when people forget about him.
peac.e
Yup
He needs to facilitate the offense in the early going, and then start focusing on scoring in the late stages of the 3rd.
I'm fine with Collison looking for his shot early
But he’s a player that is clearly on or off. And he was off tonight. Twelve shots is too much when he’s not getting those little floaters to go in.
So am I
But he needs to make better decisions, and quicker decisions when shooting. Like tonight, he needs to learn to turn it off and start passing first.
I didn't start watching until the 3rd quarter
but I didn’t see DC leave the game. Maybe he was tired? I was wondering if vogel would ever give him a break. Also wondering why they didn’t put PG on Ellis down the stretch, though of course Hill came through big time in the end.
First time I've seen West this aggressive in a Pacers uniform
Hopefully it’s just the beginning
Rough game by DC and PG, but West, Granger and Hibbert made up for it.
Also, I feel like it should be pointed out: Dahntay Jones played pretty well on both sides of the ball.
George Hill was a damn good acquisition.
SO glad we got him! They just showed his steal and basket again, and it looked SOOO good.
He needs to know his role though.
He’s a good enough scorer to be the 2nd option behind Hill when there’s no West, Granger, Hibbert or Paul on the floor.
Otherwise he needs to only take wide open jumpers and cut towards the basket but pass the ball when he has it.
peac.e
He always had decent scoring games and rebounding numbers
but couldn’t defend if he had an extra pair of arms. I don’t have bad feeling about him, though. More like…eh
Kobe's had a few bad games in a row.
Hope he doesn’t come out of that yet.
Kobe 8-24 from the floor.
But He’ll get 10 from the stripe and their bigs will dominate us and make Roy remember that he’s still 2nd tier….God love him.
peac.e
Did you see his technical against Lebron?
Threw an elbow right into his face, like a damn battering ram.
so his aim is getting better?
he just scored a glancing blow on Noah in the playoffs last year
He RAMMED him. It was an awesome foul.
Totally wrong and uncalled for, but yeah, he connected right in LBJ’s jaw.
Yeah, I meant to reply to full sail.
I’d have loved him to take Noah’s freaking head off. Hated that guy’s attitude in the playoffs.
I was also talking about Noah
I’m not a fan of LeBron, but it’s nothing compared to my loathing of Noah.
See, all we had to do was give McRoberts time to develop and he could be throwing elbows at all the Bulls we hate
Made good adjustments from the Kings game.
More assists and they only had 7 O-Boards.
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by Bronn on May 17, 2011 4:56 PM EDT
helped that the W's didn't shoot like 35%
we lost and it sucked, but when you shoot as badly as they did there’s obviously a lot more oboard chances.
"He's like Darth Vader." - Frank Vogel on Larry Bird
DC did have 9 dimes. I didn’t think he had that many.
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by Bronn on May 17, 2011 4:56 PM EDT
Yeah.
I aint’ really mad at him. He also played pretty good defense despite all of Ellis’ circus shots (some against Hill).
Just that 6 or 7 of his bad shots could’ve been positive possesions where he added to his assist total.
peac.e
Ellis honestly wasn't badly defended at all, really not once that I can remember off hand
the dude can just make shots, good offense beats good defense as Quinn’d say
"He's like Darth Vader." - Frank Vogel on Larry Bird
I did think they could've done a better job...
…sending a little weakside help for Hill on those post ups.
But, eventually Hill figured out how to make Monte take his least prefered shot out of those.
peac.e
Sunday will be interesting seeing Roy and Bynum.
It’ll be a good indicator of how Roy has developed as a true center. Could be a good match-up or a total let-down.
I'm afraid that we'll see...
…That Roy hasn’t faced any good big men yet and that he’s done a great job of learning how to beat scrubs….but will still struggle against legit bigs. However, at 7’2". That hook shot is getting to be killer. No one can defend that. It’s just their ability to push him off his spot that worries me.
peac.e
Pacers 11 TOs
GS 18 TOs
Another great stat.
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by Bronn on May 17, 2011 4:56 PM EDT
+1
Don’t like that we got out rebounded but since it was close I can let it slide. 10-4 is nice.
Really wish that Roy would get more looks in the post.
Not sure why they go away from that so early.
THE GEORGE HILL STRIP AND SCORE WAS AWESOME
Sorry, they keep showing it and I looove it!
know what’s weird. You can “like” your own post on Facebook. What the hell is that for, conceited people?
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by Bronn on May 17, 2011 4:56 PM EDT
Sorry.
Uncalled for. I grew up in a modest rancher surrounded by trailer homes. Many of my friends lived in them…my sister does now.
peac.e
... with another tab open at Blog-a-Bull...
… where he screams about Bulls games.
I just noticed Rubio is finally starting for Minnesota since his numbers were better
than Ridnour’s and he played less minutes
so I’m glad that McGuire lucky tip to close the 1st half didn’t come back to haunt us
"He's like Darth Vader." - Frank Vogel on Larry Bird
course, Hans putting a damn body on someone coulda prevented that
"He's like Darth Vader." - Frank Vogel on Larry Bird
It was Jones that was just watching.
But given the clock, and the situation, it was an easy mistake to make.
But if Jones had put his hand back and felt for him and gotten wide he’d have been able to block him out.
peac.e
wonder what Ray Allen has to say about West choosing us over them
"He's like Darth Vader." - Frank Vogel on Larry Bird
He'd answer that...
… but he’s currently in an AARP meeting.
Ray's actually played pretty well this year
can’t slash like he used to but still draining those j’s off curls like a wannabe Reggie. Ray hasn’t been the problem, it’s their friggin awful frontcourt.
"He's like Darth Vader." - Frank Vogel on Larry Bird
I read a few articles after West chose Indiana and the Boston media seemed
‘surprised’ that West chose Indiana and couldn’t imagine why. The team is OLD.
the stuff I read
gave off more of a vibe of the whole Indy’s a sleepy town with nothing to do kinda angle, because Boston is a destination for young millionaire black men, I guess.
even though West has been married forever and has 2 young kids. but we gots no cool clubs!
"He's like Darth Vader." - Frank Vogel on Larry Bird
WOOOW
4 straight misses on ONE possession by Minnesota. Heartbreaking.
TNT announcer just said that NBA games never end.
Not sure what he meant by that.
won by 1
46/45, 13 each offensively. Spurs shot like shit though.
"He's like Darth Vader." - Frank Vogel on Larry Bird
Yeah.
Dustin Hoffman drags out a guy named Rufio’s name and I imagine it would read much like you just spelled Rubio,
Rufio's a spoken word poet now
and a filthy one. true story.
"He's like Darth Vader." - Frank Vogel on Larry Bird
used to watch that HBO Def Poets thing with my old lady
this goofy haired asain kid walks out and starts talking really nasty about lady parts, THAT’S RUFIO! I say
"He's like Darth Vader." - Frank Vogel on Larry Bird
Weird
He was in some Christian movie about ten years ago I saw him in, haha. I say Christian, but I honestly think they just marketed as one because the movie was awful and they needed a target audience. I think there was one reference to any kind of higher being and it was in passing to the point they had to have added it to the script later.
Darko leading scorer.
What if next season 10 years after being maybe the worst pick ever (considering others available) he just started going off.
2013-2018 numbers for Darko, 28ppg/14rpg/3apg/4bpg.
You heard it here first.
peac.e
I remember watching Rubio in the 2008 Olympics and 17
He couldn’t shoot, but I remember thinking this kid could pass and play D.
it's the style difference
people love to talk about soft ass Euros, but the Euroleague’s no joke, it’s WAY more physical than the NBA, as is the NCAA. stateside Rubio’s a lot more capable getting into the open floor and just making gorgeous (and I mean gorgeous) passes
"He's like Darth Vader." - Frank Vogel on Larry Bird
WOW Rubio is SICK!!!
I remember there being a possible trade last summer involving Rubio and the Pacers. Sounds and looks good now!
LET THE HATERS HATE.
by INdymayneNVegas on Jan 21, 2012 1:22 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Oh my gosh.
Minnesota with Kevin Love. SO dirty. SO DAMN DIRTY!
HOLY SHIT
LET THE HATERS HATE.
by INdymayneNVegas on Jan 21, 2012 1:24 AM EST via mobile reply actions
lol, yeah, he lost weight.
He trained hardcore in the offseason.
lost a shitload of weight
like 40some pounds I think
"He's like Darth Vader." - Frank Vogel on Larry Bird
Magic abused the Lakers tonight. I’m sure the Lakers will be focused on Sunday.
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by Bronn on May 17, 2011 4:56 PM EDT
I seriously think Howard's one of the most unskilled elite players in a long time
he’s still like 25 or something so those legs have plenty of miles left, but he’s pretty sloppy fundamentally
"He's like Darth Vader." - Frank Vogel on Larry Bird
Most people have said that for a long time.
He tries on the court 60-70% of the time. Which is about the average effort level for NBA starters….but off the court he must be like AI. If he practiced and worked on his game he could be the best big man….ever? As good as Shaq, Hakeem, or …. just about anyone….especially with the lack of monsters to battle against.
peac.e
I feel bad for Mike Brown
that’s a really flawed Lakers team and they’re going to “underperform” and it’ll all be Brown’s fault
"He's like Darth Vader." - Frank Vogel on Larry Bird
Anyone think Brandon Jennings is for real this year? He’s shooting 45%. He’s just a career 39% shooter.
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by Bronn on May 17, 2011 4:56 PM EDT
Granger is shooting under 40%
Is he the worst starting SF in the league?
Sorry, not trying to be a smart ass. I think he’s a decent scoring PG. A smaller Monta Ellis maybe?
peac.e
so Kevin Love played grade school ball with Rick Adelman's son
Lil Love would hang out at Adelman’s house, I assume eating Cheetos and wiping his dusty fingers all over Rick’s furniture. Now Rick’s his coach.
And you KNOW Love was a really chubby pre-teen.
"He's like Darth Vader." - Frank Vogel on Larry Bird
For some reason I'm hoping to see a ESPN highlight but it's not even in the upcoming scroll
Boo. Glad tomorrow is Saturday.
How high above the rim did Hill get?
How many all-star games has he been in? You better get someone to rip their DVR if you want to see that again.
peac.e
Or better yet.
Struggle through the awful analysis/color commentary on NBA tv. They’ll show it.
peac.e
NBAtv's production values are just downright awful
their “HD” feeds are like watching 240p on YouTube
"He's like Darth Vader." - Frank Vogel on Larry Bird
if it's not a live game
don’t watch ESPN. You’ll be much better off. Really, REALLY hoping this NBC Sports Channel can compete.
"He's like Darth Vader." - Frank Vogel on Larry Bird
You know what’s crazy. There are 2 rookies in the top 5 in steals. Rubio and Shumpert. Wow, rookies!
This class may not have superstars, but there were a lot of solid guys drafted.
Still wishing for Marshon Brooks.
And it's now my sig
by Bronn on May 17, 2011 4:56 PM EDT
I tried to tell everyone.
Yeah…I said I was going to bed…I lied.
Last years draft wasn’t that bad. Just between picks 3-14 were underwhelming. But all of the guys taken in the first round are likely to be solid pros.
peac.e
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