Game Thread: Indiana Pacers Vs. Sacramento Kings
by Tom Lewis on Jan 18, 2012 7:00 PM EST
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| January 18, 2012 - 10:00PM EST | ||
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| Radio: WIBC 93.1FM TV: Fox Sports Indiana | ||
| Probable starters: | ||
| Darren Collison | PG | Tyreke Evans |
| Paul George | SG | Marcus Thornton |
| Danny Granger | SF | John Salmons |
| David West | PF | J.J. Hickson |
| Roy Hibbert | C | DeMarcus Cousins |
The Indiana Pacers tip off a three-game stretch in California tonight when they face the Sacramento Kings.
The Pacers begin a phase of their schedule that should determine just how good this team is and if there is some substance to the early season success. Starting tonight, the Pacers play six of their next seven games on the road and they will need to rely on another strong defensive effort to keep the Kings from amping things up for some home cooking.
The Kings have tons of young talent that is trying to find their way after dispatching of former coach Paul Westphal early in the season. Indiana Hoosier legend Keith Smart seems to have their attention but the team is still 2-5 since Smart took over. Of course, the Kings have been navigating a harsh stretch in the schedule with their last five games on the road. Hard to imagine they won't be on point on their home court.
Here is the Pacers.com preview. For a Sacramento perspective, check out Sactown Royalty. Also, after the game check out Pacers Overtime on WIBC 93.1FM with Eddie White. Need to have an Indy Cornrows mention on the show!
Leave your thoughts and observations on the game in the comments.
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Kind of important
Game tonight. If we win, it would mark win number 10, which would be great for this team.
Need these cheap wins
Before we go into the fire of the west
Immediate portion of the schedule
Past Golden State (which worries me) is @Lakers, Magic, @Bulls, @Celtics, @Magic. So I’m certainly not concerned about the West as the West. The limited number of games against the West helps curb that concern. But that’s not going to be an easy five game stretch. 2-3 would seem like a victory.
But one good thing about this stretch is I look forward to Dwight Howard just randomly saying he wouldn’t mind being traded to Indiana to be on that exclusive list of 15 other teams he wouldn’t mind being traded to. Would make me feel good inside even though he’s just talking and doesn’t mean it.
Last Season
Didnt we make each and everyone of the King starters look like all-stars last season??
Man, I remember them thumping the hell outta of us at home and at SAC as well?? We need to frustrate the hell outta of Cousins to get him tossed. Hope West/Paul/Hill/Hibbert show up HUGE tonight and take them out early by the 4th qrt. Pacers win another ugly one 101 – 91
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just in case anyone is interested,
philly and denver going ot while spurs and magic in a tight one with less than a min left
OKC – 48% shooting
Wiz – 38% yet winning!
This is one crazy season.
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by Bronn on May 17, 2011 4:56 PM EDT
I just saw that TJ Ford finally got some playing time and tore his hamstring. lol Man, that guy has 0 luck. Ford, save yo money dude!
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by Bronn on May 17, 2011 4:56 PM EDT
Ugh, Indiana got ganked by Nebraska
Nebraska! (I’m glad I was even tempered on the Hoosiers this year)
My PU friends are rubbing it in my face. I missed the game, but looking at the score, it looked like IU gave the game away.
Hopefully this will humble them and get them to play hard for every minute.
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by Bronn on May 17, 2011 4:56 PM EDT
It's funny because even though Indiana hasn't won a National Champiionship since, what 87?
They still made it to the title game in 02. So, they can’t say much about that…
They really did give it away
Up eleven with about five to go. No excuse to not come away with it. I figured they were humbled by Minnesota, further humbled by Ohio State, but I guess they aren’t done being humbled yet. There probably should’ve been a foul on the last place as Watford was being held, but Jordie nearly hit the three at the buzzer falling over the scorer’s table.
They’ve come out on the right side of close ones a lot this year, so it only makes sense water finds its level.
I’m sorry, but Marshon Brooks has been beasting all season. Man, I like Hill, but I would have loved to have traded down a few spots and got this kid. He can get his own shot and is showing he can shoot at a high clip. That’s what we need.
I wanted Marson or Reggie Jackson heading into the draft.
Still, Hill is pretty good, so we still made out.
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by Bronn on May 17, 2011 4:56 PM EDT
Orlando goes down
Indiana takes care of business tonight and they will be alone in second place in the East. I’d like that.
I'm watching the ATL and Portland game,
what the heck is Ben Stiller and Vince Vaughn doing at the game? Probably shooting a movie, but that’s so random…
Can't believe IU dumped that game to Nebraska
and OKC lost to the Wiz. Strange things brewing tonight…
Does anyone here live in Indy?
How is everyone going to get around? Esp if you work DT, that would suck.
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by Tom Lewis on Jan 18, 2012 9:59 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Guess the current 7 and 8 seeds in the East
without looking it up
"He's like Darth Vader." - Frank Vogel on Larry Bird
Philly lost tonight.
So did Orlando. I’m not sure what the Bulls’ record is right now—but Indiana might be the two seed. Right?
by dustinpurvis on Jan 18, 2012 10:07 PM EST up reply actions
ding ding
Cavs the 7 (Cavs the 7!) and Knicks the 8. And yes, YOUR Indiana Pacers are the current 2 seed.
"He's like Darth Vader." - Frank Vogel on Larry Bird
I'm surprised by Cleveland
Like, really really surprised. I don’t know if they can sustain it, but, never-the-less…
I just hope I can make it to halftime watching the game. Hate these late games.
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by Bronn on May 17, 2011 4:56 PM EDT
Night owl here.
Wish all of the games started this late.
by dustinpurvis on Jan 18, 2012 10:09 PM EST up reply actions
Chances of Cousins getting T'd up tonite?
by PresidentDead69 on Jan 18, 2012 10:10 PM EST reply actions
ignore everything but the skills though
and it’s hard not to salivate. the kid’s 20.
"He's like Darth Vader." - Frank Vogel on Larry Bird
The new guy in the Napa commercials is worse than the old one
It’s almost as bad as the “Weeeing!” Geico pig
On Paper
the Kings are stacked (Cousins,Hickson,J Thompson,Thornton,much talked about Evans, I Thomas & Fredette and my last yrs projected 2nd Round Pick Honeycutt.
Fortunately for us, the game isn’t played on Paper.
Predicting a solid game by Hill
Sacto
Has a goon squad?? Thought that was our thing?
wasn't exactly texbook
but Danny just drove left and got an and 1!
"He's like Darth Vader." - Frank Vogel on Larry Bird
Franky V doing a GREAT job sharing minutes.
Pacers have won of the best load-sharing MPG’s in the league, with DC baring most of that at a mere 33 mins a game. Next close is David with 30, and everyone else in the 20s. You gotta like that when the Bulls starters are all at or over 40 MPG. Gonna do well for us in the long run.
I think this game could get out of hand early.
I know the score is still close, but they don’t seem to have any sort of plan and we are scoring fairly easily at the rim.
+1
That and our defense around the rim has been great so far.
could also see Thornton gunning his way to 30 points and keeping it close
"He's like Darth Vader." - Frank Vogel on Larry Bird
We need to watch them behind the three point line and watch the offensive boards. We’re giving them a lot of second chances so far.
hope they keep it up
On league pass they just showed a graphic displaying that the kings were 2nd in last in 3pt% but 2nd in attempts
Seems everytime we make a half court pass it ends as a TO
by PresidentDead69 on Jan 18, 2012 10:28 PM EST reply actions
If Roy isn't brought back next year...
… what other Center that’s available will have his ability?
Glad the Pacers are pushing the pace
but those two turnovers on what should’ve been easy fast break opportunities can’t become a trend.
The Lou - Tyler frontcourt
leaves alot to be desired defensively
Good move.
It’s okay when he misses those, because at least they’re under control.
We lead the league in missed layups
and offensive free throw rebounds
Making a name outside of your mainstream
lol, what?
If a guy is a sub-par to mediocre player, of course his strength will shine through, often more so than it should.
Yeah but it's his court vision he's referring to.
You have to admit, McRoberts saw the floor well.
by dustinpurvis on Jan 18, 2012 10:39 PM EST up reply actions
I always considered him an elite passer, a great dunker, and a very mediocre everything else. There’s a place for a guy like that on a team.
I agree that he is, in general, a mediocre player,
although I would probably prefer having him over Pendergraph.
by dustinpurvis on Jan 18, 2012 10:46 PM EST up reply actions
cuz we changed our offense
Doesn’t play as far away from the rim as he used too. Pros and college.
LET THE HATERS HATE.
by INdymayneNVegas on Jan 18, 2012 10:39 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
game is closer than it should be
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by sleep research facility on Jan 18, 2012 10:37 PM EST reply actions
That’s what happens when you give up about 10 o-boards in 1 quarter!
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by Bronn on May 17, 2011 4:56 PM EDT
Yes, but the game wouldn’t be that close if we’d box out better.
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by Bronn on May 17, 2011 4:56 PM EDT
definitely. need to crash the defensive boards.
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by sleep research facility on Jan 18, 2012 10:39 PM EST up reply actions
Well at least he didnt shoot it lol
by PresidentDead69 on Jan 18, 2012 10:43 PM EST up reply actions
hill looking assertive
LET THE HATERS HATE.
by INdymayneNVegas on Jan 18, 2012 10:43 PM EST via mobile reply actions
I love his face. What, you mean I can’t take 4 steps?
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by Bronn on May 17, 2011 4:56 PM EDT
good pass
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by sleep research facility on Jan 18, 2012 10:43 PM EST reply actions
He's still
playing well. And lately he’s been more agressive
Each passing game has me loving the hill trade more and more
by PresidentDead69 on Jan 18, 2012 10:45 PM EST reply actions
spurs fans are saying the same thing…
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by sleep research facility on Jan 18, 2012 10:48 PM EST up reply actions
not a fan to be honest. he seems like he just fouls a lot. I’m sure he’ll grow on me.
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by Bronn on May 17, 2011 4:56 PM EDT
I don’t get why all of you hate on Dahntay so much. Any team would be lucky to have him. He does a lot of little things on the court.
It seems like this is discussed in every Pacer thread:
Pacer fans like certain things about Dahntay—he provides certain things that all good teams need—but he should never touch the ball.
by dustinpurvis on Jan 18, 2012 10:49 PM EST up reply actions
Would we consider...
… making a trade for that guy Brandon Rush on the Warriors? He’s a great wing player, and I think he’d add a lot to our team. Possibly him for George Hill straight up?
It’s late for me so my humor isn’t all there. I’m sure that was a joke though.
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by Bronn on May 17, 2011 4:56 PM EDT
You're right.
They would never take Hill and a 1st rounder. We’d have to sweeten the pot.
West is such a pro.
Did you see him wink at Dahntay, then purposely miss that free throw? Great play. lol
That needs to happen.
Because our bench just sucked it up all over the floor. They look baaad.
I guess to appease Cousins...
… the Sac refs are gonna call this one in his favor. Don’t want to make him cry!
We need
A backup 3 desperately. Jones is killing me.
that’s criminal.
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by sleep research facility on Jan 18, 2012 10:56 PM EST up reply actions
West is showing some good moves.
Nice to see him gain in confidence on that leg. Ups his game, and he’s so strong that he’s hard to guard in the post.
Pacers playing terrible, Kings playing well = tie game.
That’s encouraging. We need to turn up the intensity. Teams can’t compete with us for an entire game.
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by Bronn on May 17, 2011 4:56 PM EDT
Unfortunately, our MO is beating people senseless in the second half.
You’d like to see that all game long. Perhaps it’s part of Frank’s strategy? Lull the opponent into a false sense of security, then burn them up in the second half? Yeah? I like it.
Whoever is on Cousins needs to glue his ass to him.
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by Bronn on May 17, 2011 4:56 PM EDT
HAHA
Denari just said, “THAT’S A MAN’S PLAY IN THERE!” referring to David West’s shot underneath the rim.
loving the long outlet passes tonight.
LET THE HATERS HATE.
by INdymayneNVegas on Jan 18, 2012 11:04 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Our FT shooting is helping us IMMENSELY.
We’re second in the league in FT%, and with Sacramento shooting 30% from the line tonight, that gives us a huge advantage.
By my count
11 second chance points by Sacramento.
But it’s also late, so I probably messed up somewhere, haha.
as soon as a kings shot goes up, at least 1 player in white is rushing to the front of the rim, while the man guarding him just watches the shot go up.
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by sleep research facility on Jan 18, 2012 11:05 PM EST reply actions
Cousins owns that turf inside the block/charge circle
hard to believe Pacers are up 4, giving up 17 ORebs
If he’d play with Hibbert’s passion, Cousins would be a huge force. I just shake my head at some players who have talent and seemingly do nothing with it.
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by Bronn on May 17, 2011 4:56 PM EDT
I've always said the same about Dwight Howard
If he had half of Shaq’s (or Hansbrough’s) mentality, he’s be the greatest center in NBA history.
They don't make players like Jordan anymore
All the talent and determination. Kobe probably the closest thing.
I don't really like Kobe, but I think I like him better than Lebron
forget any of the off court stuff, but Kobe goes in eff you mode and Lebron is…more worried about his brand, it seems.
I hated David West when we played against New Orleans.
So glad he’s with us.
cousins is too talented a player to do stupid stuff like that.
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by sleep research facility on Jan 18, 2012 11:11 PM EST reply actions
For playing pretty badly, we are up 5.
I’m out, but hopefully the Pacers really bring it in the second half.
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by Bronn on May 17, 2011 4:56 PM EDT
Ok, that half sounded sloppy and we ended with a nice run...
but, I’m expecting a Vogel speech. Like “BOX OUT” guys. I hope.
Yes, same.
Then I grew up and realized that watching sweaty men in tights groping each other isn’t normal.
season is young. we're playing sloppy at times but getting better.
west is getting his legs back. granger hopefully will find his shooting touch and foster will stay healthy. imagine whatthat would be like and if we add another scorer by march….
hill may get an extension but hibbert is holding out until off season most probably and
test the market. lots of teams will be offering him a job. boston, orlando, indy to name a few
kings have more o-rebs than they have d-rebs. that is not good.
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by sleep research facility on Jan 18, 2012 11:21 PM EST reply actions
those put-backs shouldn’t be happening so much though.
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by sleep research facility on Jan 18, 2012 11:24 PM EST up reply actions
Cousins is 4-12 at the rim.
No wonder he has 10 O-boards.
West will embarrass him again and he'll find a way to get a Tech
by PresidentDead69 on Jan 18, 2012 11:26 PM EST reply actions
gotta say...
Really enjoy the Kings announcers
LET THE HATERS HATE.
by INdymayneNVegas on Jan 18, 2012 11:27 PM EST via mobile reply actions
very insightful and fair.
LET THE HATERS HATE.
by INdymayneNVegas on Jan 18, 2012 11:31 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Worst anouncers in the league?
Boston Celtics
LET THE HATERS HATE.
by INdymayneNVegas on Jan 18, 2012 11:28 PM EST via mobile reply actions
I distinctly remember HATING these two announcers last year when they played in Indy.
Maybe that had something to do with the fact that it was such a lousy game for the Pacers. They’ve been pretty good tnoight.
Also undefendable
It’s an option. Guard the cutter, Roy is one on one with his man in the post. Double Roy, pass it to the cutter. Simple but brilliant. Can only do it when you have the legitimate back to the basket post threat in hibbert.
Some player bumped into the Marshall coach
And the Marshall coach goes down, starts crawling around and flopping like Manu.
Marshall head coach faked a heart attack to get the ref's attention.
Apparently some player on the other team ran past and elbowed him, so the coach dropped to the floor and flopped around clutching his chest.
That was a dirty move.
Like kick returners standing in the end zone like they’re not going to run, then taking off when the coverage team slacks off.
Big Boy Roy
Nobody can get to Hibbert really tonight. He’s playing well. But then again, so is everyone else.
super fast first step by Paul George
LET THE HATERS HATE.
by INdymayneNVegas on Jan 18, 2012 11:36 PM EST via mobile reply actions
I'm really glad that after this 3-game trip we get Orlando at Banker's Life.
It’ll be good to play a tough team on our court.
Paul isn't quite as automatic on buzzer beaters
As he was last year.
Am I forced to accept it was an anomaly?
Granger is moving SO much better off the ball.
You want to see him do that more often. Get some Reggie in his legs.
Woah
That was a crazy sequence. No call and then straight to a Tech
i see a 4 on 2 then an onslaught of whistles
by PresidentDead69 on Jan 18, 2012 11:41 PM EST up reply actions
I know
But he still had not opportunity to finish because the opposing coach walked way out on the court and stopped play before he could
Not sure if that applies to the clear path ruling.
But I know very little about it. In fact, I didn’t know it existed before two years ago.
Oh, interesting.
Really wanna see that, because with his crisp passing that could happen without blocks.
proud to see granger just walk away after the block lol
by PresidentDead69 on Jan 18, 2012 11:42 PM EST reply actions
Question!
I see people blog on here about how they hate Danny Granger. Why is that? I mean he really isn’t a burden. Granted he’s not the best leader on the court, but he is a very efficient player.
I don't think so.
I think people think that because there is a bigger point spread with everyone on the team.
He's been shooting low 30%.
Can’t argue that.
Because he has false front teeth.
It’s that simple.
It's not like Cousins has a great offensive game.
Sometimes I think he’s rather dribble the ball behind the three point line and run iso for himself. Lou just needs to make sure he boxes him out.
by dustinpurvis on Jan 18, 2012 11:48 PM EST up reply actions
I like it when he dials his own number.
Especially when he takes it to the rim.
Ok!
I agree Danny is efficient when he doesn’t get T’d up.
Why isn't Thornton getting T'd up?
Every single time he gets down the floor, he’s stamping his feet and throwing his arms around.
DC!
He’s on fire. I can feel the burn all the way here in Muncie.
You at Ball State?
I was just there yesterday.
A LONG TIME!
I need some sleep at one point.
You know, if you look at Sac's roster, they're a really deep team.
A ton of young talent. They just look so mentally unstable and whiny. It’s not just Cousins. If they could mature a bit they could actually make a little noise.
Does that play make Lou the best post player we've ever had?
Maybe. Time will tell.
how does he miss those...not complaining but my god how
by PresidentDead69 on Jan 18, 2012 11:54 PM EST reply actions
I played with a guy in high school that was 6'8"
He shot 17% on the year from 2 feet in. Don’t know how it’s possible.
Nice.
Lakers tickets are friggin expensive. Paid 60 each for upper deck, corner, front row. Everything below the upper deck is at least $150
I don’t think anyone has ever called me “giving me an erection” before. Not a bad nickname I suppose…
if we win 63 games this year ill tattoo it on my forehead
by PresidentDead69 on Jan 19, 2012 12:02 AM EST up reply actions
Lou has viking blood.
That guy sacks people with a huskarl-like vengeance.
Im jealous of his jaw line...no blemishes whatsoever
by PresidentDead69 on Jan 18, 2012 11:58 PM EST reply actions
actually not that bad of a movie
although I think my slightly positive review was due to low expectations
Yeah, Quinn Buckner talks about it.
When he played he said guys would openly state that they weren’t going to mess up their FG% with poor half court and full court shots.
Cuz then you turn the game into a sprint.
We start out jogging, then take off to finish it out. If we started sprinting in the first, we’d run out of gas. Maybe.
Lol
All of the Kings bloggers are saying the game is over because Travis Outlaw is in. I didn’t even know he played. Go check it out.
If the playoffs started today...
… we’d host Cleveland. Yes, please?
Isn't that Dick Beveta guy...
the guy that Patrick Ewing punched in the face when him and Reggie Miller got into a fight? Lol
It's a gamble he takes to keep his guys fresh with this shortened season.
He does it often, and it makes games that should be double-digit wins seem far too close.
lucky they didn’t get the offensive board.
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by sleep research facility on Jan 19, 2012 12:16 AM EST up reply actions
i wanna call that thing a midjet
but he’s only like 9 in shorter than me
Making a name outside of your mainstream
WTF!!!
STAY ON YOUR FEET!! I’m getting so pissed.
When you move the basketball!
You create opportunity! Great job David West.
there ya go david…
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by sleep research facility on Jan 19, 2012 12:21 AM EST reply actions
If George played with a killer instinct...
… he’d be so damn good. His passing looks lazy.
that's what the entire team want to do.
they need their beauty rest also
18-7, Sacramento outscoring us this quarter.
7 points in the fourth. Come on, you guys. Step it up.
THAT'S ME!!
They showed my tweet! @ChefTCook if you would like to follow.
It's official
David Stern hates the Pacers. I’m blaming him for this game.
barely bloody touched him. nice flop garcia…
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by sleep research facility on Jan 19, 2012 12:29 AM EST reply actions
This game is so worthless.
What an awful, awful performance.
Had a bad feeling about this game
looks like I was right
no energy. pacers look tired.
3 days not enough
seems appropriate that the game gets lost on a fscking offensive rebound.
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by sleep research facility on Jan 19, 2012 12:35 AM EST reply actions
Thing is...
… it’s the simplest defensive coverage, but teams in the NBA really struggle against it.
everyone was afraid to shoot
passed up a number of decent looks, PG especially looked afraid to take an open 3 down the stretch… just hitting one woulda probably made the difference
that's a bit rough
but he really should have put more effort into stopping the run early in the fourth rather than let them play it out
He's been terrible all year
Pacers only have a winning record from playing bad teams with tired legs
Pacers don't deserve to win this one
Maybe they can learn something from it
OMG, that was awesome.
Would have worked if he was smarter.
On the second free throw
Danny threw it at the rim to bounce back, but stepped over the line before it hit the rim.
don't know what to say.
thanks for the update
I almost wish the Pacers will lose this game
to remind them that they’re not as good as they think they are
Saw Shaq do that one time.
He ended up lumbering from the free throw line to get his own rebound and dunk it. Danny is not Shaq.
er…didn’t someone else make that same mistake in the last week or so? some other team?
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by sleep research facility on Jan 19, 2012 12:40 AM EST reply actions
did exactly the same thing, quickly threw it off the ring but stupidly got a lane violation instead of waiting for 0.1 seconds before crossing the line.
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by sleep research facility on Jan 19, 2012 12:41 AM EST up reply actions
night of upsets.
magic, thunder, pacers, sixers all lost
One of those things is not like the other
It’s not an upset if the better team wins.
Who are you?
Blog a Bull isn’t here. You’re lost.
SOMEONE BAN THIS FUCKING TROLL ALREADY
ive been in this thread 3 minutes and im sick of him
Proud perpetrator of yelling "Money MIke" at Oracle Arena since Dunleavy's trade to the Pacers.
Some pretty annoying calls for sure
I wish that were the biggest issue in this fourth quarter though.
Granger causes the 4th collapse.
Not passing the ball to players on a roll we lose to a team that sucks.
Well, looks like the stars aligned for this one.
OKC loses, Orlando loses, Sixers fall. Whatever.
well that sucked.
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by sleep research facility on Jan 19, 2012 12:42 AM EST reply actions
What a horrible game
Live and learn. We’ll bound back. This is a good team. That’s what good teams do.
Golden State
Don’t like that game either. Ellis could erupt against this D
Pacers should have traded Granger for him when they had a chance
No way GSW would do that now.
Good thing we got a good player for him
Wait, no, that didn’t happen.
Now every team will play a zone against the Pacers
Long losing streak coming. Goodbye playoffs.
I'm in Asia too
but it doesn’t sound like a bad idea to drown my sorrows right now
Free throws ended up being 41 to 27 Kings. I feel like the Pacers had a giant free throw discrepancy in the first half.
Anyone know where I can find a box score that breaks down halves and/or quarters?
Well....the good news.
This team isn’t 10-3 good. Probably better not to get our hopes too high.
peac.e
I don't think that's necessarily true
They lost one game on the road to a team desperate for a win. It’s not the end of the season.
Never said it was.
Indy is still a good team. But not .800 good. Probably more like .600 good.
We’ve litterally gone 13 games and played one, ONE good team.
Still hopeful for an enjoyable, productive, promising season.
peac.e
yeah hawks are shit, havent made the playoffs in years
Proud perpetrator of yelling "Money MIke" at Oracle Arena since Dunleavy's trade to the Pacers.
Hawks...
Minus Jamal Crawford and Al Horford (for 75% of game)….are not a “good” team.
They are probably about as good as us when at 100%….how good would we be sans Hibbert?
peac.e
based on how things went with him out in 4th tonight pretty awful
but if the hawks arent “good” and the c’s arent “good” we only have about 15 games against “good” teams on our schedule so it should be a hell of a fun season
Proud perpetrator of yelling "Money MIke" at Oracle Arena since Dunleavy's trade to the Pacers.
I don't disagree there.
But, we are gauranteed to face a “Good” team in the playoffs.
And we proved tonight that we are more than capable of losing to average-to-bad teams.
15 games against good teams (we win a couple of those), and 10 or so more losses to lesser teams….that’s .600ish….er go…. our current pace was misleading and I was starting to believe the hype.
peac.e
That's true
I’m just reacting to comments of other people acting like this is the worst thing to happen in the history of the franchise.
bingo
indytoad is obviously patsr18anddone’s retarded inbred pet hamster and is trolling hard, but everyone else needs to settle down. is okc’s season over because they lost tonight? hardly.
Proud perpetrator of yelling "Money MIke" at Oracle Arena since Dunleavy's trade to the Pacers.
That's what I'm trying to prevent.
And that’s what I’m saying. We are not OKC. We can beat most teams, most nights. But, we don’t have the talent to just put the pedal down and beat anyone. OKC, Miami, maybe Chicago. Those teams do.
peac.e
story of our seasson so far.
win 3 or 2 than lose 1. not a bad exchange
There are a lot of circumstances that will make this season WACK
It’s a long season compressed into short. It is concerning to see blown leads like this.
It's gonna happen.
I’m surprised teams haven’t zoned more often. Sacto is maybe not as bad as we all think. WestPaul never had control of that team. They have loads of talent and actually got a practice under Smart. Plus the refs weren’t on our side.
peac.e
And Cousins
Who just had a fucking crazy-good game. I have never, ever seen a player so dominant on the boards.
We needed Foster.
Hibbert is playing well, but West is very planted on his feet and the rest of our bigs have the worst hands in the league….and are small too boot.
peac.e
Yep, Jeff was missed
Amundson tries, but he just can’t seem to get those 50/50 boards going his way.
Considering this was a 37-win team last season
I’d be happy with 35 wins out of 66 games
That's about what I predicted at the begining of season.
I’m thinking if we can stay healthy (including Foster) for almost the whole season….35 should be closer to our floor than our ceiling….but not much.
peac.e
Why would you not drive and kick to hill?
Dude is on a roll. Definitely our best shooter. I say we would of won if they benched DG in the 4th quarter. Oh well, still much more aggressive this year. Go Pacers!
Granger has been pretty decent late in games...
…especially compared to early in games. Plus his ‘D’ and level headedness.
A big concern was PG and DC hyperventalating with the lead crumbling and making a couple bad plays. I mean it never should’ve came to that, but they had a couple turnovers and DC had a bad shot or two.
peac.e
Also, why take out West?
The Pacers had a couple of plays in the last few minutes where they beat the zone and made it to his sweet spot, and acted like they forgot Vogel had benched him. I know Sac went with a small line-up, but the guy is money in the clutch. Did he foul out or something?
He only had three fouls.
I’m noticing in the box score, though, that Hibbert only played 26 minutes. He finished with five fouls but I don’t remember him being in foul trouble all night.
by dustinpurvis on Jan 19, 2012 1:03 AM EST up reply actions
We were ahead by enough most of the 2nd half...
…we were getting him rest I assume.
As to Stew’s comment. I think Vogel was trying to match the Kings speed or something…but I would’ve slowed it down. We were making mistakes playing too fast.
peac.e
FTA in the fourth quarter were 15 to 4 Sac.
That includes a defensive three second tech and Danny’s final two free throws on an intentional foul. The discrepancy was 28 to 10 for the second half as a whole.
Normally I don't blame the refs
But, beyond the FT discrepency, the officiating did seem pretty lopsided in that game.
Don’t the Maloofs own a Casino with a sports book? Just saying?
peac.e
spread was indy minus 6 to 6.5 10 minutes before tip
kings wouldntve had to win to cover
Proud perpetrator of yelling "Money MIke" at Oracle Arena since Dunleavy's trade to the Pacers.
I was kidding.
But, I’ll admit, I rarely blame refs for a loss. But the officiating in that one was increasingly lopsided. Ever since that Hibbert block where he probably got some forearm before getting to the ball (can’t even remember who he blocked…Thorton maybe). The one where Smart got the tech on the fast break.
It seemed pretty even before that.
peac.e
Peace out fellas (and ladys?)
We should be able to get GS….we better. I was predicting 12-8 by the end of January a couple weeks ago.
I’m sticking with that.
peac.e
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