IC Cold Links: Considering Hibbert, Hill Extensions; Granger Not Among Team USA Options

by Tom Lewis on Jan 17, 2012 10:01 AM EST in Indiana Pacers News

As the Indiana Pacers head to Sacramento today to begin a three-game road trip against the Kings on Wednesday, the links today contain a few items worth pondering.

For starters, a discussion of contract extensions for the 2008 draft class which includes Roy Hibbert and George Hill. There is no simple "yes" or "no" answer to determining whether to extend either player. The cost of the extension adds nuance to the answer along with tricky proposition of projecting future growth of the players.

Is Roy Hibbert a max player? No he's not a max player. He's a solid and legit center which is rare in the league and currently offering reliable production, but he's not Dwight Howard. Will he command closer to a max salary than he probably should? I would expect so, but how the new CBA impacts this class of extensions should be pretty interesting.

Also, the Pacers were able to hold a real, live NBA practice yesterday in the middle of three days off before playing in Sacramento. Plus, USA Basketball announced their initial 2012 Olympic team finalists which includes Eric Gordon, but no Danny Granger. This is good news, considering Granger wouldn't make the final team anyway and will be able to enjoy a normal offseason.

Check out the links after the jump.

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Comments

Pacers should publicly offer Roy about $10M a year to start his extension and hopefully this will “shame” him into accepting it… If this drags out into next summer, then we could end up paying a lot more, which wouldn’t be the best thing for the franchise.

by FortWayneKarl on Jan 17, 2012 11:25 AM EST reply actions

Hasn't Roy publicly expressed his desire to stay with the Pacers?

If he really wants to stay with us, and wants what’s best for the team, he should sign something while he can.

by MillerTime31 on Jan 17, 2012 11:31 AM EST up reply actions

Dissappointed

I’ve really enjoyed Roy being part of the franchise, but I hate for this to become a potential distraction with the team doing so well. It seems like he is hinting he will leave. The NBA needs a hard salary cap and franchise tag like the NFL, or else it will continue to be a joke where a handful of franchises really have a legitimate chance to win the championship.

by BieberFever on Jan 17, 2012 11:56 AM EST reply actions

I hate the Franchise tag

I will agree with you that the NBA needs a hard salary cap, and add that they need NFL-style revenue sharing of TV/media contracts.

However, I HATE the Franchise tag. In what other job could you tell your employer “Our contract is over. I don’t want to come back. I’m leaving” and they can tell you “No”?

Print It.

by Center on Jan 17, 2012 1:03 PM EST up reply actions

The Military

Happened quite a bit in the Army at the start of our current conflicts.

Whoever lives past today and comes home safely will rouse himself each year on this day, show his neighbors his scars, and tell embellished stories of all their great feats of battle.

by brown11b on Jan 17, 2012 2:06 PM EST up reply actions

Actually you're wrong

Stop-loss policy, as described here is not actually done at the end of one’s military contract, but is rather the extension of one’s term of service until the end of one’s obligated service. This has been challenged in court, but always stood up, so far.

by FortWayneKarl on Jan 17, 2012 2:23 PM EST up reply actions

And it's really f'n dumb.

I got stop-lossed a few weeks before my contract ended. Left a very sour taste in my mouth.

by Jmahoney on Jan 17, 2012 10:36 PM EST up reply actions

I'm not so sure that would work out as well as you think.

So your proposing that no team has the ability to pay anymore than another. Guess how players will then supliment their income….by playing in large markets where they can do commercials for regional matress chains, etc.

peac.e

by trucutter on Jan 17, 2012 7:00 PM EST up reply actions

When/Where did Roy hint that he will leave???

by FortWayneKarl on Jan 17, 2012 1:23 PM EST up reply actions

If he doen't want to sign then trade him now

Send him to a bad team like the Wizards. Maybe we get Javale and a first rounder which could turn into a top five pick. We really don’t utilize Roy like we should on the offensive end bringing in McGee might be a upgrade on D as he leads the league in blocks.

by EliB209 on Jan 17, 2012 12:33 PM EST reply actions

Cut bait & trade him

If he doesn’t want to be here, then move him. The Pacer’s should be able to get more than he is actually worth. (which sure isn’t a max contract) This is more about a greedy agent than Roy’s actual worth. If we can get a decent role player and a 1st round pick out of him, it would be better than losing him with little or no compensation. He has around the same stats as Nene and he was overpaid. I hated to read this story, because I like Roy. But we don’t need anyone that doesn’t want to be here…. Umm Karl? Why would you want to “shame” him into staying? offering $10 million and his agent would just laugh at you and say goodbye. This is about money, his agent saw what Nene and Tyson Chandler got and they are both on the downside of their careers and were never as good overall than what Roy is right now.

by Dene on Jan 17, 2012 12:34 PM EST reply actions

Not sure about that.

Nene and Chandler are actually probably every bit as good as Roy. Tyson’s never been asked to score, but he’s a better defender than Roy…and let’s be honest, NY was stupid and desperate to win and overpaid. Nene is better than Roy I think. Not much, but Nene was much better last season than Roy was. Roy’s had a good stretch of 12 games (where he’s been very good in most, and pretty good in the rest) against some of the worst front courts in the league.

If Roy (or his agent) thinks he’s worth much more than $10mil. he’ll have to continue to improve and maintain it all season. I love Roy. But there’s no way he’s worth more than the recently overpaid big men. Most of those teams are in the position to overpay. I’m not sure we are.

peac.e

by trucutter on Jan 17, 2012 7:11 PM EST up reply actions

Like it or Not

Let the market determine his value and offer a tad bit lower.

Fortunately for us; regardless what he or his agent says; Hibbert seems to truly enjoy playing for this team and I predict will remain with us for yrs to come.

Hill; on the other hand; is already HOME!

by jonjonNYC on Jan 17, 2012 12:50 PM EST reply actions

lol talk about overreaction

trade him? seriously? because he hasn’t signed an extension a year before he has to? it’s smart business from Roy. and hell, we try and extend him right this second we’re not getting him much cheaper than if he keeps up this consistent play all year, better serves the franchise to wait and see if this start’s a fluke.

"He's like Darth Vader." - Frank Vogel on Larry Bird

by IndyPacers on Jan 17, 2012 3:41 PM EST reply actions