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IC Cold Links: Vogel, Bird Discuss Assistant Coaches...If

Larry Bird didnt' want Frank Vogel invovled with pre-draft workouts to avoid assumptions among other coaching candidates that Vogel was the head-coach-in-waiting for the Pacers. That must no longer be a concern for Bird.

According to Mike Wells, Bird and Vogel met yesterday to discuss the job and among the topics was Bird's desire to enhance the assistant coaching staff, presumably to add more NBA experience to the bench (Thanks to IndyPacers for the FanPost with thoughts on potential assistant coaches). This makes sense especially when you consider that Walter McCarty and Vitaly Potapenko were just getting their feet wet in the NBA coaching game under Jim O'Brien.

So IF Vogel is named head coach...wait a minute. Can we end this coaching search charade? Announce Vogel's hiring, let him be involved in the draft process and move on.

Wells also reported that after the meeting Vogel notified Jay DeFruscio, Walter McCarty and Vitaly Potapenko that they won't be part of the staff if he's the Pacers coach next season. There's that "if" again. IF it isn't happening then why go through with the salty process of telling your assistants that they should start looking for other work?

Dan Burke, who is running the pre-draft workouts, will remain on the Pacers staff as he has through other coaching changes in the past.

A few more links after the jump, including draft prospect interviews from the Fieldhouse yesterday along with news that Ricky Rubio has signed a deal to play with Minnesota.

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"Canis Hoopus exhales"

I see what you did there Mr. Lewis…

"If you don't [draft me], I promise you I'll come back and kick your ass for the next 15 years."

by psvirsky on Jun 2, 2011 9:33 AM EDT reply actions  

Bird said Vogel will get the first interview

so maybe that was it. Now he’ll go out and interview other candidates and talk to Vogel again afterward

by full sail on Jun 2, 2011 9:57 AM EDT reply actions  

It’s starting to sound like Vogel’s going to be the coach.

by gut19 on Jun 2, 2011 12:45 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

I'm still not convinced...

…this means Vogel’s the coach. I guess I view it differently, in that, if Vogel really was unquestionably “the guy,” why offer all these assistant coaching ultimatums without an official offer? I suppose an offer may have been made, and it’s just not public yet, but again, if that were the case, why still wait? I see it two ways: 1) Vogel is the guy, but Herb Simon really wants to avoid unnecessary payouts during a likely lockout by holding off on his official hire, or 2) Vogel’s under consideration, but LB’s got other candidates in mind , and he’s waiting until this lockout situation is resolved before undergoing a full-blown coaching search. Either way, it seems to me that the lockout is playing a role in the process. I’m having a hard time determining another explanation as to why the coaching search seems to be so uninvolved at this point.

by Glenn A. on Jun 2, 2011 1:25 PM EDT reply actions  

This is just what I've heard

The Pacers are talking about signing Vogel to a 2 year deal with an ETO. I’d assume he would get a long-term deal if he can take the Pacers back to the playoffs.

by PatsR18andDONEwithoutCHEATING on Jun 2, 2011 1:49 PM EDT reply actions  

Yeah

Because not having an official coach for the last week and a half has destroyed the future of our franchise.

KEEP COACH FRANK

by IndyPacers on Jun 2, 2011 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

its sarcasm, if you didnt get it

Harper's on Miller, McKey, gets in to Miller for the win and...

Hail to the Orange.
Hail to the Blue.
Hail Alma Mater,
Ever so true.
We love no other,
So let our motto be
Victory, Illinois, Varsity.

Chief Illiniwek lives

by wonillionaire on Jun 2, 2011 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’d love to see Hamblen and Bill Lambeer brought in. Not sure about the 3rd guy.

And it's now my sig
by Bronn on May 17, 2011 4:56 PM EDT

by Sparhawk on Jun 2, 2011 5:18 PM EDT reply actions  

Not that I wouldn't be a pretty big fan of bringing in Laimbeer

Hell I wouldn’t be completely against him being HEAD coach, I just can’t see him and Larry working together…ever

KEEP COACH FRANK

by IndyPacers on Jun 2, 2011 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Has anyone been brought in?

I don’t think so – Bird seems to be doing the typical thing Bird does too much of – sitting on his hands!

by FortWayneKarl on Jun 2, 2011 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

I meant for Vogel’s staff, since he needs to hire 3 new assistants. I wasn’t sure about the 3rd guy, but Hamblen has Indiana ties and comes from a winning background. Lambeer would also bring a winning attitude and can focus on getting our guys to play team defense.

And it's now my sig
by Bronn on May 17, 2011 4:56 PM EDT

by Sparhawk on Jun 2, 2011 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Also, Lambeer wants to coach in the NBA, and this could get him noticed a lot more.

And it's now my sig
by Bronn on May 17, 2011 4:56 PM EDT

by Sparhawk on Jun 2, 2011 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Laimbeer…f*ck.

And it's now my sig
by Bronn on May 17, 2011 4:56 PM EDT

by Sparhawk on Jun 2, 2011 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

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