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Jimmer Fredette Shows Off Game For Pacers In Pre-Draft Workout

With an interesting group of draft prospects working out at Conseco Fieldhouse on Tuesday, I made some time to go down for the media availability portion of the workout.

Since Jimmer Fredette is often tied to the Pacers in various mock drafts, he was definitely the key player among those that worked out. Fredette was matched up against Duke's Nolan Smith, whose last trip to Indy included cutting down the championship nets at Lucas Oil Stadium after Duke withstood Gordon Hayward's desperation shot to win the NCCA title.

Jeremy Tyler, now eligible for the draft after skipping his senior year of high school to play overseas, and Florida's Vernon Macklin knocked heads around the bucket, while Tennessee's Tobias Harris and Kansas' forward Marcus Morris matched up.

All of the above were battling fatigue at the end of an obviously strenuous workout as they played a controlled 3-on-3 "game" running plays under the direction of Dan Burke. The initial impression I took away from what we were able to see was that all six of these players have flaws in their game which makes sense, otherwise they would be projected to go much higher in the draft and not bother working out for the Pacers.

So for kicks, here's a little snap judgment on each player.

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Jimmer Fredette - Fredette's positives are pretty well known. Dude can shoot the ball from all over and make plays and, despite being winded, he showed those traits. When given an opening he could hit the open jumper or draw a foul trying to get the ball up around the rim. After the 3-on-3 work, Jimmer knocked down 18 of 22 3-pointers as he worked his way around the arc.

But those were practice shots, not game-flow jumpers. Speaking of Jimmer's jumper, he has a little hitch when cocking the shot which made his release seem a little slow. Thinking about the slight openings shooters often have to squeeze off a shot, in particular I'm envisioning Kyle Korver racing around a screen, turning and firing in one motion and still barely getting a clear shot off, that little hitch would allow many an NBA defender to help and/or recover to disrupt Fredette's shot.

Defensively Fredette looked about as advertised. Nolan Smith was able to free himself from Jimmer on several possessions. On others, Fredette held his own, but getting down and dirty at the defensive end won't be the reason the Pacers or any other team select Fredette. He made it clear after the workout that he has always played point guard and expected to do so on the NBA level. Fredette plans to workout with the Knicks, Kings, Jazz and Suns before the draft.

Nolan Smith - Smith looked the part with nice size and athleticism for a point guard. Again, aware of the fatigue factor, his defensive effort varied a bit as well. He moved well, made good decisions with the ball and knocked down open mid-range shots, all of which he will have to do consistently to find his niche in the league. If I were Smith, I'd just focus on the defensive end and try to become a guy no one wants to play against in these workouts.

Tobias Harris - Considering Harris is not yet 19, he looked good on the court physically. For a 3/4 tweener he'll need more strength but he's starting with a good base. Harris isn't an overly athletic, high-flying player but he has a solid game around the rim and showed that in the workout. He went against Marcus Morris who overpowered him a couple of times. His offensive game shows plenty of upside, though including a mid-range shot that could develop into a consistent weapon. If the Pacers are looking for help next year, though, Harris won't be the guy at 15.

Jeremy Tyler - Tyler turns 20 on Wednesday but few have seen him play any significant basketball. Fortunately for Tyler, former Pacer coach Bob Hill took him under his wing while he played in Japan last season. The young fella already has an NBA body, although the mind and big body haven't quite synced up. When it does, he could be a beast. Tyler showed a decent shooting touch which he admitted is an area he needs to continue working. He definitely has the right frame of mind to keep working for his NBA dream. His decision to leave high school forced him to grow up in a hurry and after a disastrous start, he seems to have learned from those lessons. The Pacers are likely looking at him in the second round but it will be interesting to see how far up a team is willing to reach to take a chance on Tyler's upside.

Marcus Morris - Morris seemed to play in bursts, again probably due to fatigue, but was pretty aggressive playing around the hoop. He was a bit of a bull in a china shop trying to make things happen with the ball. He'll need to develop some kind of move with the ball around the rim, but going to hard is a better problem than going to soft.

Vernon Macklin - Macklin appeared to be the most-ready to step in and bang bodies in the NBA. However, that may be his best attribute. Macklin is looking to work his way into a second-round pick and will have to continue relying on defense and rebounding to make that happen. The guy was Dale Davis stout, unfortunately he appeared to be allergic to shooting the ball. Seriously, I think he'd break out in a rash were he to cock his wrist, add a little arc on his shot and follow through.

Macklin played with at Georgetown for a couple of years and spoke glowingly of Roy Hibbert, mentioning how Hibbert would always grab him to go work out to keep improving his game. Sounds about right.

So that's my first impression, snap reaction to the limited portion of the workout I was able to watch today. I realize I'm basing this analysis on a mere swath of the entire workout, let alone the full pre-draft process these guys are going through, but writing about basketball is fun and this was fun, so sue me. Seriously, though, it was nice to watch these players in person and see how they move around and physically stack up. Plan on plenty of highlights and audio in the links tomorrow.

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…three-on-three isn’t the most ideal scenario to gauge this skill, but did Jimmer or Nolan show an ability to hit the open man?

Also, I really liked your comparison between Macklin and Dale Davis. That brute, rebound-and-get-physical style is exactly how Macklin played in college. I wouldn’t mind him as a 2nd round pick at all. I’d prefer Jeremy Tyler in the 2nd, but I doubt he lasts that long.

by Glenn A. on May 31, 2011 5:33 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

I’m not sure what Macklin you watched in college, but I’ve seen every game of his while he was at UF and he isn’t a good rebounder. He reminds me of a smaller Roy Hibbert. Neither are very physical down low and neither are great rebounders. Both rely heavily on a hook shot instead of backing people down and dunking over them (Although Macklin’s hook is better than Hibbert’s, but thats not saying much).

by TravisBest on May 31, 2011 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ha ha

Wow. I was WAY off. First of all I was confusing Vernon Macklin with Alex Tyus. Then, I looked at Alex Tyus’ stats and realized he’s an awful rebounder, too. I think what happened was the few games I saw Alex Tyus play (one game included his impressive performance against BYU in the tournament), he played pretty well on the boards and showed off his athleticism. Those few games misled me into thinking he played a “Dale Davis” type of game. Obviously, that’s not true, and then I thought Tyus was Macklin and…well…let’s just say, overall, it was a player-evaluation catastrophe on my part.

by Glenn A. on May 31, 2011 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Haha yeah, Tyus had a great tournament, but overall he’s pretty average. I’d say he’s a McRoberts type player at best, without the shooting range.

by TravisBest on May 31, 2011 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

hard to tell in this situation

they were feeding a wing (unguarded coach) then running through the lane and reading their man to come off a pick on either wing. That would lead to a shot, drive and dish or drive and mid-range shot. Neither guy had a good finisher to make them look good.

by Tom Lewis on May 31, 2011 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tom, any idea if the Pacers will work out Reggie Jackson at all?

If we didn’t already have Lance, I could see the Pacers making a move to acquire a late first/early second to get Tyler, but I just don’t see it happening. He seems to have talent, but a low BBIQ. I’m predicting a David Harrison type career (minus drug use). I think he’ll be a foul machine and simply won’t get much playing time because of it to show off his stuff. Hope I’m wrong, cause like I said, the kid has some talent.

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by Bronn on May 17, 2011 4:56 PM EDT

by Sparhawk on May 31, 2011 6:03 PM EDT reply actions  

No idea on Jackson, he won't be in the group working out tomorrow.

Kind of hard to make any assessments on Tyler’s game or BBIQ since he hasn’t played any basketball worth comparing. He seemed pretty sharp during his interviews.

by Tom Lewis on May 31, 2011 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Reggie Jackson had a "minor knee surgery"

Per DraftExpress’s Twitter. Doesn’t seem like anything serious but’ll keep him out of workouts for now.

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by IndyPacers on May 31, 2011 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

My bad, Chad Ford, not DraftExpress

all I can find is “minor surgery,” had it May 17th, out of workouts until second week of June

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by IndyPacers on May 31, 2011 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks. Hope we bring him in for a look.

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by Bronn on May 17, 2011 4:56 PM EDT

by Sparhawk on Jun 1, 2011 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

did see a mention from Chad Ford

about Jackson having some minor knee surgery a few weeks ago, pushing any workouts to later in June.

by Tom Lewis on Jun 1, 2011 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

im not sure i agree with your assessment of jimmer

specifically, that his release is slow. all the scouting reports ive read on him say that his release is quick, and have that as one of his strengths.

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by wonillionaire on May 31, 2011 8:17 PM EDT reply actions  

His spot-up shot is pretty quick

I’m just talking about his jump shot. He loaded it up after the jump before releasing. At least that’s how I saw it today. Maybe he was having a slow day. Regardless, when he gets the shot of it is too late for the defense anyway.

by Tom Lewis on May 31, 2011 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dude these guys suck

Well I guess I should be saying most of these guys suck
ESPECIALLY FREDETTE AND SMITH!!!!!

Smith is an asshole from Duke the poop that makes you wanna puke who is an NBA bust waiting to happen just like Jay Williams (something the Pacers have way too much of on their team), I hope the Pacers don’t work this prick out.

Freddette although in college he may have fitted the mold for the type of shooting guard the Pacers need on their team, still seems a bit short to play SG at the NBA level and will likely be a PG (something the Pacers don’t really need thanks to the DC trade)

All the rest of these guys except for maybe the last 2 seem a bit young for the type of player Larry Bird likes to have on his team.

by PatsR18andDONEwithoutCHEATING on Jun 1, 2011 2:22 PM EDT reply actions  

Jimmer

I wouldn’t be mad if we drafted him and dropped Price. I think he could be a good backup point guard. I don’t see him as a starter, but hopefully Collison improves this summer and proves that we already have a starter. He has to be better than Price even without being able to play defense.

by donnyfher on Jun 1, 2011 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wait, I take back what I said

This Tyler dude seems like a pretty good option for the Pacers even though he likely will nto slip to them as do the last 2 guys on this list.

by PatsR18andDONEwithoutCHEATING on Jun 1, 2011 2:24 PM EDT reply actions  

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