Bulls Fans are annoying, Pacers fans are invisible.

there’s only one solution; win

Although it may not have seemed like it, the majority of the fans in Conseco last night were Pacers fans. Most of the idiot Bulls fans were up in the balcony doing what they do best, getting drunk and talking shit. I found that the appropriate response to the “mvp” chants was an “SAT” chant. Seemed to piss the ones around me off.

It wasn’t a 50-50 split at the Fieldhouse last night, more like 70-30. Thought the crowd was plenty loud last night.

Pacers had the worst attendance this season. Why wouldn’t there be a lot of Bulls fans? Winning solves that problem people.

I do agree that some fans can ruin an experience though. Glad that hasn’t happened to me…yet.

This stuff is inevitable but I can surely understand it being irritating. Given the situation reversed it would drive me nuts. I hope your team continues to improve and this becomes an even bigger rivalry with your fans showing up even more.

They really are a classless bunch. No class at all. On another note I’d rather lose than need help from the refs to win. That 4th quarter was a joke. Look at the foul ratio for the 4th absolutely STUPID! We took it to the lane a number of times drew contact and can’t get a whistle. Yet you look at rose the wrong way and you send him to the line. Does it feel good bulls fans winning with a 6th man on the court. Having a fake mvp. Your team is like the patrick ewing lottery RIGGED. Like Jordan betting on his own games pete rose style or I mean his first retirement FAKE. It would make me a little sick to my stoumach to be honest. Living a lie and all.

seems to have the most asinine posts by fans and moderators, that I have seen in a long time. They are incredibly biased and the lack of facts to substantiate some the claims they spew on that site is astounding . I have stopped visiting that site due to the classless rabble that seems to dominate the boards.

Maybe I’m just used to the civility that is displayed here on Cornrows. Tom as moderator and the majority of posters here have to be commended for the class and decorum displayed.

I think this is one reason why many people can stand to watch. It is particular upsetting when it seems like it is used for marketing purposes. Helping big market teams win may help revenue short term but a level playing field is much better for the entire NBA’s long term profitablilty. Make the rules less ambiguous and take steps to remove any doubt that the officiating is fair and balanced. Trust me NBA, it will actually help you line your pockets.

A little caveat to that. Have you ever considered this? Indianapolis and the economy didn’t do to well the last part of that decade. Your ultimate fans tend to be blue collar with it’s fair share of white collar as well. Those ticket prices skyrocket. The good fans can’t necessarily afford them. The play gets shitty with a bunch of thugs we, the fan base, didn’t like. When a family has to tighten their belts like so many have had to do in the region, entertainment expenses are the first to go.
One thing also to consider is television coverage. If you don’t remember, the 90’s up until the Pacers got the contract with Fox Sports, the home games were never on television. It was a treat to get home games on the TV. It made going out to MSA more appealing. Add the evolution of the TV from a 27" CRT pussy-wimp to a 60" 1080P LED destroyer-of-worlds with surround sound and rewind-live-TV technology. Some people just flat out can’t afford to go to Pacer games all the time. It’s more efficient to just be sitting in your living room, where the beer is A LOT cheaper and the lines at the bathroom are dependent on whether you got catering from Qdoba or not. You cannot deny the fact that we need dedicated fans, but I don’t want them sacrificing their well-being, their marriage, or future by trying to stay ‘dedicated’ to their team. But the sad truth is that the fan support at Conseco has been very thin. As far as word of mouth goes, most of Indianapolis just sort of repeats what everyone else says without checking it out for themselves. I keep hearing the same bullshit about the brawl. Let it go people. It’s in the past. They are behind the Pacer power curve. Hopefully this playoff series will enlighten them.
That being said. The Pacers have responded with by creating Area 55. However, this was it’s Rookie year and has not had a whole lot of recognition yet. Hopefully we’ll have some prospects next year.

Yes, but I am sure we are both biased for our team in foul calling which is highly subjective. That being said, regardless of how this particular game was officiated, I do believe that the officials are supposed to favor superstars and big-market teams and I think this series has been no different.

From my view I saw a lot of dirty off-the-ball contact from the Bulls and very little from the Pacers. While the Pacers may of had some hard fouls on Rose, most of them were called. As a Bulls fan it is probably easy to ignore that the Pacers got their arms slapped on most layups as a Bull sat in the restricted area for the entire possession. But it did happen, over and over. Noah pushes and pushes people all over and doesn’t get the foul call. Rose hand-checks, elbows, and charges consistently. Bulls make no attempt to take charges so Roy gets charging fouls when the defender is deep in the restricted area and Foster get a blocking foul when he is set outside the area. But again, we both are probably a little biased.

Superstar #1 overall pick, check. Big oaf of a big man that’s unorthodox yet usually effective, check. Huge market vs “heartland of America” market, check. Rampant emotions, check. Rough, physical play, check. Somewhat overlooked 4 man that’s turning heads, check. Young up and coming coach vs old school guy (albeit nowhere near as accomplished), check.

I’m tellin ya. Chicago vs. Indiana is going to be big. BIG I TELLS YA!

no problem with some debate, but try and stay civil

I could find copies of the game, cut and splice the clips and show the charges with my analysis but that would take too long and wouldn’t change anything. You are biased if you think Rose doesn’t get away with charges and it has happened many times in this series. I am not question his ability or his MVP status but he played a bad game last night and it doesn’t matter if you can do a spin move in mid air, if you make contact with a set player and knock him down, it is a charge.

Bulls fans run their site a little differently than Tom does over here. Bulls fans are loud and obnoxious. Big deal. Let’s all try to be civil, and if we can’t let’s just not respond to one another. This is game thread shit. We don’t normally talk to each other this way over here. I personally have no problem with it (I learned a long time ago that the internet is a great way for people to bash others without having to face any consequences, so why bother getting unruly? It’s not like you can reach through your ethernet cable and kick someone’s ass…) but a lot of folks are taking stuff way too personally, and I gotta tell you, it’s not worth it. Don’t let some internet tough guy talk ruin your day. It’s all fun. It’s all just a game. While I’m sure there are a fair amount of bandwagon jumping Bulls fans, take it from a Colts season ticket holder…it goes both ways. When you’re good you’ll have that. I’ve been a Colts fan since I was a toddler and they just moved here, and I remember being able to walk up to the box office 20 minutes before kickoff and buy tickets. Chicagoans have their history and their tradition, but like any other sports town, there’s going to be some folks who really care and some who are annoying douches. There’s no way to prove who’s who on a blog. There’s no reason to get into this he said/she said childishness. Let it be. Breathe deep. You guys are bumming me out.

Not trying to be holier than thou, just sayin…it’s not worth it.

these idiots should be thanking God that they even have rose given that their probability of winning the nba lottery that year was like 3%.

I think the playoffs could use an open thread. If anyone at IC would EVER rec anything that is.

I thought that was one of the best crowds we’ve had in a long, lonnnnggg time. I can’t understand hating on a fan base because of a few, so no particular hate towards the Bulls fans from me. Maybe it’s because I’m less confrontational. Quite simply most fans are ‘fair weather’ and are only interested in winners I think Heat fans are the penultimate example of ‘fair weather’ fans.