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Chicago Bulls 88, Indiana Pacers 84: Pacers Play Tough Yet Again, But It's Still Not Enough to Avoid 3-0 Hole

Before Game 3, A.J. Price addressed the urgency of winning and making it a series by saying, "It’s not over if we lose this game, but I mean, it’s over if we lose this game." And that’s the best way to describe the Indiana Pacers’ position after falling to 0-3 in another déjà vu loss to the Chicago Bulls. Being down 0-3 is nothing but a temporary purgatory; no NBA team has erased the deficit, and without a closer, it’ll be impossible to.

Indiana once again couldn’t make the plays down the stretch the Bulls did. A bounce here and bounce there could make this series a shocking 3-0, but close doesn’t count in basketball. For the game, what’s there to say? The Pacers played winning basketball again, but were unable to keep pace with the Bulls down the stretch. Indiana frustrated Derrick Rose early and often, but in his absence, Luol Deng made some big shots.

His shots were much the same problem that has presented itself for the Pacers. In choosing to limit the effectiveness of Rose, the Pacers have found themselves short on the rebounding edge and in rotating back to open shooters. It’s an extremely difficult situation to put yourself in, but a necessary one if you hope to keep Rose essentially in check.

The Pacers weren’t at their sharpest offensively. They were struggling to get the necessary shots to push the tempo and lead all night, but the Bulls defense also played their best game of the series as well. The result was a slugfest of the ugliest kind, unfortunately the exact type of game Chicago excels at. Both teams finished under 40% for the night, and it showed.

Indiana hung close the entire night. Every time the Bulls looked to make a push, the Pacers defense was the one to step up and make big plays. The Pacers played their best defense of the entire season tonight, Paul George was once again masterful on Rose, and the Pacers once again played above the level they’d shown at any point this year. Who is this team and where were they for stretches a couple of months ago?

Dahntay Jones provided a huge lift for the team in the second half, scoring 11 points that were key in getting Indiana a five point lead in the fourth (familiar?). The Bulls responded with a ten point run, fueled by Derrick Rose free throws and Kyle Korver jumpers. The Pacers were in a difficult situation down the stretch as Danny Granger caught fire. But it wasn't enough as the Bulls were using Rose drives that got to the line or Korver’s height over Darren Collison to respond to everything.

For the only time all night, the Pacers couldn’t get a stop, but fought to get the game tied at 84. Indiana would miss their next three attempts, but when they needed a stop to get the ball back with no shot clock, it would be the task of making that against Rose. The defense was solid and did not foul as Rose drove the lane, but Granger was late to rotate back to Rose for fear of another Korver dagger, and it was another acrobatic shot from Rose that would finish the job.

As was the case all series, the Pacers had to pick their poison, and couldn’t catch a break on any of them. The postseason is all the plays you make, and Chicago has made plays when the Pacers did not. It’s a frustrating loss as any in this series in front of an excited Conseco Fieldhouse crowd, but a Granger game winner sailing just left meant that while this series isn’t over, it’s kind of over.

After the jump, more on another great effort from a team that desperately deserves some positives:

Star-divide

  • Paul George was as great as he was a hindrance. George has really found himself out of the offensive flow for not only this series, but since moving up to the starting lineup. Tonight, he looked for his shot, and looked a little too hard. He finished 1-9 for 6 points, frustrating because his shot selection was a big problem. He knew the plays he wanted to make, but had trouble making them thanks to the Bulls defense.

    It’s important to remember he’s a rookie, and another stellar job on Rose helps soften the offensive game. He helped in holding Rose to a dismal 4-18 shooting, had two more blocks and steals. His two blocks put him second in the playoffs in blocked shots with 8, second only to Joakim Noah’s 9. But what really defined his solid night were his game high 12 boards. George has shown a lot this season, and it’ll be exciting to watch him piece everything together.
  • Danny Granger’s play in the fourth quarter will be understated because he didn’t hit the game winner and because it coincided with the same stretch of the game the Pacers couldn’t get a stop, but for all the grief Granger undeservedly gets for who he isn’t, he was the one who stepped up when the team needed someone to step up. He finished with a team high 21, a mere cap on a solid postseason he’s put together.
  • Darren Collison didn’t seem to have any lingering effects from his ankle injury as he became more and more active as the game progressed. His late game decisions may have been a little questionable as he pulled up for a shot while Granger was scorching, but he found success with his midrange overall. A.J. Price was a little more lackluster at 2-9 shooting, having trouble getting his shots to fall, including two at the end of quarters that could’ve proved to be tremendous bursts as the game progressed.
  • Dahntay Jones has been a boom or bust player for Indiana offensively this year and got himself in a groove tonight, scoring 11 points in his first postseason game of the year. Jones, like George, worked well to frustrate Rose, also key in Rose’s dismal shooting night. Mike Dunleavy had a solid first half as well, coming off screens for a pair of field goals and 6 points.
  • Josh McRoberts stepped up big in the second quarter, scoring 9 points, including 5-5 from the line as he made hustle plays to keep Indiana in great position. Jeff Foster, as well, played his role as the enforcer down low with great success, installing Davis Justice in the paint when the opportunity arose. While some people confuse Foster’s play for dirty, it’s the kind of play that teams need to find themselves in winning position. No one ever complains about having a player like Jeff Foster on their team; they only complain if they don’t.
  • The starting frontline wasn’t as effective, combining for 6-24 shooting for 16 points and 12 rebounds. Roy Hibbert continued to have trouble settling into any kind of rhythm, and Tyler Hansbrough once again had trouble getting his midrange jumper to start falling again. Hansbrough did make some solid plays down the stretch, grabbing 4 of his 5 rebounds on the offensive glass.
  • As for the glass, free throws, and various series shortcomings, Indiana did a tremendous job erasing those issues. Indiana as a team went 17-18 from the line, grabbed an equal number of rebounds and had more offensive boards. Unfortunately, the difference tonight was Chicago once again winning the free throw disparity and also shooting 9-20 from three point range, as the Pacers were only 1-10.

In the end, Indiana couldn’t scrape together enough plays to make it a series. It’s insanely frustrating watching the Pacers play their absolute best ball of the entire year and come up short time and time again. While there’s still another chance to grab a victory, there’s little to suggest it will mean anything in the end. All the Pacers can do is continue to play and hope enough can fall their way to result in a victory. Game 4 will take place at Conseco Fieldhouse on Saturday at 2:30 p.m. on TNT. Perhaps it will be the start of something truly amazing.

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Very proud of these guys

The Bulls are the best team in the league and have the MVP of the league and we’re scaring the hell out of them. Sure, we’ll lose in 4 or 5 games, but this is lightyears better than the last few years.

Love seeing George’s defense, Granger’s jumper, and Foster’s toughness. Hibbert’s baby hooks look like they’re inches away from falling. Nice to see Dahntay come in aggresive and we probably could have seen more Dunleavy on offense.

Favorite part of the game – when Foster put the hard foul on Rose and as Rose is yapping at him, Foster just stands there, chewing him, arms still up in the “no foul” pose, staring holes in Rose. Yeah so maybe he’s the MVP and Foster is an old-timer on his way out, but he showed no fear and really represented how the Pacers have been playing this series.

Living in Boston, I don’t get to watch many Pacer games and getting to watch these three has been a treat. Win or lose, they have been playing tough and in a way we can all be proud of.

"If you don't [draft me], I promise you I'll come back and kick your ass for the next 15 years."

by psvirsky on Apr 21, 2011 11:32 PM EDT reply actions  

this offseason will be great (unless there is a lockout)

can’t wait to see who we will go after and who will become our new gm or coach, if there even are new ones.

Harper's on Miller, McKey, gets in to Miller for the win and...

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by wonillionaire on Apr 22, 2011 1:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

you guys

don’t need a new coach. stick with vogel. he has resurrected your franchise, IMO.

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by anorexorcist on Apr 22, 2011 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

I hope the Pacers come out with some pride saturday

and take this series back to Chicago.There needs to be some major changes closing out though,draw up some wacky plays to throw off the defense.I think the Pacers can definitely win game 4.

by gut19 on Apr 21, 2011 11:47 PM EDT reply actions  

Wacky plays?

In football they have them, why not basketball? At the end, I was pleading for an alley-oop over Chicago’s rather short front line, but instead we ended up with a (missed, rushed, offline) Granger three. Yeah, we could use a few more wacky plays.

by euphorbus on Apr 22, 2011 6:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

Not so sure about that

We’ve come within a few points of beating the best team in the league with the best player in the league three straight times. Each game could have gone the other way on a different foul call or roll around the rim. Major changes are unlikely the way to get over the hump.

"If you don't [draft me], I promise you I'll come back and kick your ass for the next 15 years."

by psvirsky on Apr 22, 2011 9:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

We have yet to find an answer to how to close out the game

There needs to be some major adjustments AT THE END OF THE GAME.

by gut19 on Apr 22, 2011 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd like to see a win tomorrow

Win the last home game at least. They don’t really deserve to have the record books show them getting swept considering how well they have played.

There were an annoying amount of Bulls fans there, but hopefully this game brought some of the more casual fans back around so they may go to a few games next season. Considering how crappy our attendance was that alone would make this postseason a success.

This series is making it glaringly obvious we are awful at ending quarters. It feels like we always have the last shot and we get AJ Price or Collison driving to elbow, jumping back to feet, and then shooting a fade away over 3 guys. That doesn’t include the last shot of the game, which was a terrible play call.

If Korver is guarding Paul George again next game, I want Vogel to give him the ball and tell him to go to work. There is no way he can guard him and maybe it would make them take him out in the 4th quarter before he can stab daggers into our hearts.

by SirStuckey on Apr 22, 2011 12:03 AM EDT reply actions  

Pacers have been bad at closing qtrs, particularly 4th qtrs all season

It’s just glaringly obvious because it’s been on national TV. They still have to learn.

by Gwen on Apr 22, 2011 1:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

I hope Pacers win game 4

So….3 choices:

A. Pacers are better than their record
B. Bulls are worse than their record
C. Without Derrick Rose, Chicago is Cleveland West.

by Gwen on Apr 22, 2011 1:14 AM EDT reply actions  

i respectfully disagree

to me, the pacers were playing up to the bulls’ level. the bulls were not playing down to the pacers’ level.

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Hail Alma Mater,
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by wonillionaire on Apr 22, 2011 1:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think there's a little bit of both

Indiana has definitely played well, but the Bulls are the more talented team

by BullsCharge on Apr 22, 2011 7:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

Disagree

The Pacers have FAR more depth than the Bulls. They can go 11 deep and still play their game. The Bulls the throw the ball to one player, and that’s their game.

by BenD on Apr 22, 2011 8:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

As someone who's watched the Bulls the whole season

I think that claim is ludicrous. If you look at advanced stats, the bulls have a higher winning % when Derrick scores less than 30 points than otherwise. Plus the Bulls have something like a 0.900 winning % when Derrick has an assist total of more than 9. To say that the Bulls have less depth than the Pacers, least of all FAR more depth than the Pacers is pure homerism on your part. Let’s take a trip down stats-lane.

Starting with the Bulls main starting lineup, the following is what is usually played, and what has been played in the series.

Rose-Bogans-Deng-Boozer-Noah O-rating:1.05 D-rating:1.00

Next comes the bench unit, aka the bench mob.

Watson-Brewer-Deng-Gibson-Asik O-rating:0.96 D-rating:0.85

That’s 85 points per 100 possessions, the best in history. Somewhat small sample size at around 200 minutes in total, but it shows depth. Now a look at the Pacers starting 5.

Collison-George-Granger-Hansbrough-Hibbert O-rating:1.05 D-rating:1.08
What? Are you telling me that the best players on the Pacers give up 108 points per 100 possessions? Keep in mind that defense is team oriented, and while PG is important for offense, the front court is more important for defense. Now a look at the Pacers bench.

Price-D.Jones-George-Hansbrough-Foster O-rating:100.4 D-rating:1.16
Not so good here. Worse offense, even worse defense. As you can see, the defense actually improves with bench guys out on the Bulls, where the Pacers typically rely on Collison or Granger to play well.

Ok, now a look at player by player adjustments. Lets look at the top 11 players on each team.

Derrick Rose
Keith Bogans
Luol Deng
Carlos Boozer
Joakim Noah
CJ Watson
Ronnie Brewer
Kyle Korver
Omer Asik
Kurt Thomas
Taj Gibson

Danny Granger
Darren Collison
Tyler Hansbrough
Paul George
Roy Hibbert
AJ Price
Dahntay Jones
Brandon Rush
TJ Ford
Jeff Foster
Mike Dunleavy

In order of best to worst in terms of individual ability, we can see the Bulls are better.

Derrick Rose
Luol Deng
Danny Granger
Joakim Noah
Carlos Boozer
Darren Collison
Hansbrough
Taj Gibson
Roy Hibbert
Kyle Korver
CJ Watson
Ronnie Brewer
AJ Price

The list goes on. I’m willing to give credit where credit is due, and the Pacers are a deep team. But to say that they’re FAR deeper than the Bulls, and that the Bulls are good because of one guy, that’s too much. The Bulls are the best defense in the league, remember that.

by BullsCharge on Apr 22, 2011 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, and while it may seem like the Pacers are a deep, team-oriented club

and that the Bulls rely on one guy, it’s more a testament to the Pacers lacking a closer. You know it, I know it.

by BullsCharge on Apr 22, 2011 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Personally

I believe putting Deng above Granger may be homerism. I think they are about equal, though in this specific playoff series Granger has gotten the better of Deng.
Also, i believe George to be an all around better player than Watson or Brewer, so i’d give him the edge there and knock Price off the list. just nitpicking though :)

by PMfan on Apr 22, 2011 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Come on folks, do you really think Chicago would have 60 wins w/o Rose?

Do you really think Chicago would be up 3-0 w/o Rose with winning games by 5, 6, and 4?

I can’t take anything away from the Bulls because they won those games and made the plays that they had to…but take out Rose and who do you have? Carlos “I scream over everything” Boozer? Noah would have to actually develop some sort of post skill and Keith Bogans? The reason he doesn’t have to score any points is b/c he has Rose as his running partner.

The efficiency stats someone pointed out earlier in this post is pretty much the same thing Cleveland fans would bring up when someone would say “If Lebron wasn’t on this team…” Rose is good for at least 20+ wins by himself. Bulls have someone who can finish games, Pacers do not.

End of story.

by Gwen on Apr 22, 2011 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

If they get in another late game situation

I say just go to Roy or Tyler, unless a guy like Danny is feeling it. Roy misses shots he should make but typically the hook looks easy, it just rolls out. May as well give him a try, they are down 3-0 anyway.

by SpaceCowboy1984 on Apr 22, 2011 3:35 AM EDT reply actions  

Someone else needs to make a shot...

Because they totally keyed on Granger for the last shot.

by infinityzero.systemerror on Apr 22, 2011 3:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah.

ATTACK BOOZER! That dude cannot defend anything…

by BenD on Apr 22, 2011 8:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

Good video and analysis of Rose traveling on game-winner

This site does a good job of breaking down Rose’s drive last night where he took 3 steps. Announcers never talk about this stuff. Glad this site does:

http://wp.me/p1uswc-6T

by rocketdude on Apr 22, 2011 7:33 AM EDT reply actions  

If you're trying to make it out as if that's the reason why the pacers lost game 3

then that’s a very weak argument. first of all, the video does not show rose’s supposed first step from the second angle, choosing to show the supposed last two steps. I agree that the last two shown steps were legitimate, but who’s to say that he stopped dribbling on the supposed first step? The rule book says that a player is allowed to take 2 steps after he begins his shooting motion while he is dribbling, but there’s not indication that derrick rose started to get up on the supposed 1st step. At best, he gathered the ball between his supposed 1st and 2nd step, not touching the ball with his right hand until the supposed 2nd step. Most refs will call it like that, where a player begins his motion when he grabs the ball with both hands or palms the ball underneath his shooting hand. I’m not saying that he only took 2 steps, I’m saying that that was impossible to call, considering a) Rose is too fast, the guys at refcall said as much and b) there is a lot of ambiguity in the rule book with regard to traveling.

Back to the point, the Pacers lost because they couldn’t get it done on the offensive end in the last few possessions, and they put themselves in that position with their play in the 4th quarter, minus Granger.

Finally, you could point to a lot of stuff going both ways that was missed. There was the Hibbert phantom offensive foul on Noah that a lot of people mention, but he did travel on that play. There were Jeff Foster’s Game One and Game Three flagrant fouls that weren’t called. There was his elbow to Deng’s head that wasn’t called, but Thomas got called for a clearly inadvertent elbow to Hanbrough (by the way, Hansbrough got dizzied by his collision with Foster’s knee, not the elbow by KT)

Bottom line, the Pacers are a good team and they’ve played well, but they don’t have the guard depth or the shut down D or even the closing abilities that the Bulls and Derrick Rose have shown they have.

by BullsCharge on Apr 22, 2011 8:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

Interesting but highly technical.

I have a feeling players are getting away with non-simultaneous jump steps like that all over the league, stars and non-stars alike. This is the kind of rule enforcement that would have to be discussed in the off season and introduced in the preseason so everyone could get used to it — and that’s assuming that it is even humanly possible to detect it without instant replay.

by Tim S. on Apr 22, 2011 8:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

If they were to call that a travel

There would be a travel on basically every possession.

by BenD on Apr 22, 2011 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

Pacers do a great job all game only to not show up in the final minutes. They had this game again. Very proud of this team right now, but it sure would be nice to have won a couple of those games.

Not sure I agree with the isos at the end of games. Do you think these losses are on the guys or the coach for not drawing up better plays.

I’ve watched every game from beginning to end cause they’ve been so good and down to the wire. Love it! Just need to fill a couple holes (big time PF that can rebound/defend, and a guy that can create his own shot/closer) and we are a legit playoff team. Just not sure those 2 players will be available in free agency or the draft.

by Sparhawk on Apr 22, 2011 7:38 AM EDT reply actions  

I think the losses are on both the players and coaches.

If I recall correctly the last play of the game was supposed to be Granger coming off a screen and, probably, shooting right away. Unfortunately, the Bulls keyed on Granger and doubled him. This is where the other guys need to take it upon themselves to make something happen. But yeah, isos suck.

What’s everyone think of the talk about Foster being a dirty player?

         Personally, I like the idea of punishing guys that drive into the lane. People are saying that the elbow to Deng was intentional. Now I don’t know If Foster did it on purpose, but even if he didn’t I would want him to make it look like he meant to do it. Kinda like how major league pitcher doesn’t apologize for a ball that gets away from him and flies up towards a players head.

by infinityzero.systemerror on Apr 22, 2011 7:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

As a Bulls fan, I blame the refs.

And if the refs won’t call it, it’s on the players to police it. Get Kurt Thomas in there, he knows how to play that game.

by Tim S. on Apr 22, 2011 8:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well...

There’s a reason people are only mentioning Foster’s fouls. Look at Hansbrough and McRoberts — they’ve both had multiple hard fouls, two arms hammering down, etc; but they were good, clean hard fouls. Nothing harm there. Foster’s had three really questionable hard fouls — the first in Game 1, where he hard fouled Derrick mid-air, and then as he (Derrick) was landing, kept pushing at him, against his shoulder. That is stupid and unnecessary; you’ve already hard fouled, trying to shove a guy while he’s landing is a good way to roll someone’s ankle. The two last night were more blatant — I mean, he didn’t even try to go for the ball on Rose, just an elbow / clothesline to the face. The elbow down on Deng’s head, well, it’s hard to say if it was intentional — again, his hand really wasn’t even going close to the ball, that’s why it looked bad.

But it’s past the point of the Bulls needing to complain about it. It’s on the Refs first, they should be making that call. If they’re not, well, like Tim S. said — Kurt Thomas knows what’s up.

ASIK AND DESTROY

by JStymie on Apr 22, 2011 9:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

And Hibbert had a hard foul on Rose last night...

and tried to help catch him as he landed. I did lol a bit at that, silly nice bigs.

ASIK AND DESTROY

by JStymie on Apr 22, 2011 9:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah

As a Pacer fan, I love Foster. You gotta stay away from the head though, even on hard fouls.

by BenD on Apr 22, 2011 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

Foster has always been a clean guy. I don’t think the fouls were dirty, but they were hard. Know what I hate, stupid touch fouls that allow the guy to score easily. Foster at least makes sure that Rose wasn’t going to get a shot off.

When players are running at high speeds, it’s going to be difficult to have clean fouls all the time. If I’m going after the ball and at that moment the ball is close to your head, well guess what, your head my get hit, doesn’t mean it’s a dirty play. After all these years of hard work, why would Foster all the sudden become a dirty player. Just don’t see it.

NBA is getting soft if you ask me. Rose drives and gets fouled hard. What do you think is going to happen, just touch you and allow you to get a “And 1”. haha Rose seems to take every foul personally and so does all of his teammates. Get over it. No one apologizes to Hansborough for all the head shots he’s taken. Big ass bruise on his ear to prove it too. Don’t see him crying or getting pissy.

by Sparhawk on Apr 22, 2011 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Foster has always been a clean guy?

come on. You don’t mean that…or at least you shouldn’t. He’s been an “enforcer” as your blog mates say…for a long time.

"Fast Don't Lie"

by Sandberg's evil twin on Apr 22, 2011 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

He’s a physical player, but not dirty. All all enforcers dirty players now? Is that how we are defining the term enforcer?

by Sparhawk on Apr 22, 2011 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

He plays for your team, I get that.

Not every physical player is dirty but Foster is known for making those types of plays. Are you telling me KT is not dirty at all? I understand you think fouling hard all the time is wonderful, probably would have loved Detroit back in the day, but don’t tell me Foster is never dirty.

"Fast Don't Lie"

by Sandberg's evil twin on Apr 22, 2011 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not to put you on the spot

but I’m having trouble thinking of any other time that Foster was accused of being ‘dirty’ and I’ve closely followed the team throughout his entire career. Any examples outside of this series?

by dustinpurvis on Apr 22, 2011 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Foster

Isn’t dirty. He’s not an angel, but he’s going to make it hard for you. Something understated in last night’s game was Foster and co. not allowing a single three point play all night. That’s how you play inside in the playoffs. Foul early, foul hard. I’ve no sympathy for the opposing yram’s franchise player driving the lane and coming out with a few bruises. None. Foster isnt dirty because he won’t allow Rose to get whatever he wants. That’s ridiculous.

by Nathan S. on Apr 22, 2011 1:32 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

bulls fan and

i don’t agree. i’m seeing a lot of yelling/anger from casuals/bandwagoners about “hard fouls” and “they should suspend foster!” but these guys have not seen what MJ and co. used to go through in the late 80s w/the pistons and early 90s w/the knicks.

if i’m not mistaken, foster has been the longest-tenured pacer, from the early 2000s. i have fond memories of physical battles against him in the past, and as a Bulls fan I can appreciate his toughness (some bulls fans even wanted to sign him before he reupped a few years back).

but yeah, stay away from the head, FFS, ya big brute.

"4 inches, baby!" --ripped off from Kush
1/27/11 - The day the nerdosphere and their stats jumped the shark, trying to use them to disprove the obvious.

by anorexorcist on Apr 22, 2011 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

Vogel has gotten better over the course of the season, but I’m not sold on him yet. I think he leaves the 2nd unit in too long most of the time. Offensive sets are a bit better than when JOB was here, but guys still look lost out there. Some decision making has been lackluster. Game 1 he should have called a TO near the end of the game when the Bulls were making a big run. Why weren’t the players attacking more in the 3rd quarter of game 3, when the Bulls were 1 foul away from giving the Pacers FTs at the 8 min mark, I mean, c’mon. You have to find some way to draw fouls when they are up against a wall. Our jump shots bailed them out.

Yeah, if Vogel were to come back, he’ll need to hire someone who’s great at offensive play calling and working with the players. However, Vogel probably hasn’t had much time to work on offense since JOB was fired, so he could get a pass for now.

I’m just glad JOB isn’t the coach, that’s the bottom line.

by Sparhawk on Apr 22, 2011 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Very hard to analyze his offensive sets

NBA teams have very little time to practice during the season, so any sets he wanted to add would have limited practice time. If he gets an extension, it will be much more telling to see how their plays work after a training camp practicing them.

"If you don't [draft me], I promise you I'll come back and kick your ass for the next 15 years."

by psvirsky on Apr 22, 2011 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Would be Ok with Vogel

back as the coach as it has been his first head coaching job and he was learning on the fly. I think he did a good job and probably deserves a full season or two to see what he can do. But if they decide to bring someone in I would vote for Rick Adelman as he will not be brought back at Houston and I think he would do well helping our young team grow.

by PacerBacker on Apr 22, 2011 4:29 PM EDT reply actions  

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Authors

The_outside_world_small Ian Levy

Small Glenn A.