I think most Pacer fans would agree that when Roy goes so do the Pacers, and when he struggles so does the rest of the team. From the game against the warriors, although his stats weren't monstrous but everyone could tell Roy was confident out there verse Golden State and their weak interrior defense. However, with that said, Roy has been turning the ball over at a incredible rate whenever he is double teamed. But that however is not all Roy's fault. When he is doubled he seemed surprised by it and panicks, but also his teammates aren't moving to or already at a position where Roy can pass the ball to. I think it is CRUCIAL that Vogel develop a set that adapts to Roy being double teamed. Although I like the hard nose basketball that Vogel preaches but when Roy gets doubled that's where the inside out game needs to happen. We haven't seen much of that inside out set very much at all during Vogel's tenure. If the Pacers develop a decent inside out game when roy gets doubled, the opposing team will respect that aspect of the Pacers' game more and won't have the luxury of automatically doubling Roy when ever he gets deep in the paint. From what I've seen so far this season, Roy Hibbert has progressed a long long way since last year, but I still don't think he's reached his ceilings yet. Once he learns to adapt to double teams and better at reading opping defense, he is going to be a fearsome force to be reckon with because there are very few Centers in the NBA that can consistantly out right front Hibbert on their own. Hordford, Howard, Okafor, Kurt Thomas, Bogut, but that's about it.