Measuring The Progress Of The Indiana Pacers
Preseason expectation are always inflated for any promising NBA team like the Indiana Pacers. Then there is the reality check upon first glance that, for the most part, these are the same players we saw last year.
Hearing stories from offseason workouts about players getting bigger and stronger, improving their handles or working on shooting have a tendency to gin up expectations for a player's development that can't be met. And evidence of any physical development in a player's game may be so incremental it is hard to even detect. That doesn't mean progress isn't being made by said player.
Measuring up to expectations gets compounded when you consider applying the above standard to ten separate players. Wow! If ten different players return to the team as improved players then together they will make the team exponentially better. Oy.
Any individual improvement is great, but the goal is for the team to improve and the Pacers, more so than other playoff teams, have to rely on the individual parts coming together as team to succeed. That requires some sacrifices from individuals, giving up minutes or a spot on the floor to make the whole unit function better.
For instance, Paul George has looked great in the first two games, playing more assertive and finding various ways to contribute at both ends of the floor. He's shooting the ball with more confidence which is also an improvement from last year. But his efforts to improve his handles while taking the ball into the lane remains a work in progress. While he may feel better about that part of his game and want to show it off whenever he can, it would be better for the Pacers if he was more judicious in trying to create his scoring opportunities. He's shown if there's an opening he can take it and finish, but forcing the action when the lane is closed usually leads to a turnover.
Tyler Hansbrough is going to continue drawing attention from defenses, especially with his tendency to think shot first ( second, third...). He's been tough for one defender to handle so help will be on the way. Meanwhile, Roy Hibbert seems to shut down and watch Hansbrough go to work when the two play together. If Hans could draw attention and then get Hibbert involved to get his game and confidence going, the team as a whole would benefit and Hansbrough would end up with more room to work, as well.
The long-winded point being that individual offseason work is critical for player development but now it is about developing together as a unit which is a different beast. New faces and different roles take time to work through, but in the end the only meaningful stat to measure the progress of the Pacers this year is the number of wins at the end of the season.
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I would think that everyone stands around when Hans has the ball. I would love to see Hans try to get more teammates involved. He did have 3 assists the last preseason game!
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by Bronn on May 17, 2011 4:56 PM EDT
no kidding
I don’t care how pretty it is, Hans puts up a shot a lot more often than not it’s points somehow. Hans was by FAR the best player in the preseason.
Sup Jello Shot?
Good Point – Playing another team besides the Bulls should give a more accurate indication of how good this team really is. Eventually we’ll have to beat these teams to progress to that next level but unitl then its vital to beat the teams we “should” beat and compete with all the others.
Any initial sceptics having 2nd thoughts on the value Mayo would have brought to this team. Fortunately Larry has already planted the seed(s) and some time next year (or deadline) Mayo will be our starting SG.
I will also be closely watching the # of games & injuries Gordon has this year.
The clock to his home coming is ticking.
When your problem is between the ears
That’s a problem. Roy recognizes that he is overmatched in many occassions and gets down about it instead of playing to the best of his ability. We don’t need Roy to be an elite player in the NBA. Just the 15th best or so. Too often he plays near the bottom of starting centers due to getting down on himselft, thus taking himself out of the game. We can’t have that. If he doesn’t progress this year, time for the Pacers and Roy to get a fresh start.
by PurdueBoiler1995 on Dec 22, 2011 10:59 AM EST reply actions
I don't get this at all...
To me it’s pathetic when such a monster of a man is such a mouse between the ears!
by FortWayneKarl on Dec 22, 2011 1:41 PM EST up reply actions
I'm honestly a little worried about Danny
He did OK last year with Coach Frank even though it wasn’t the JOB chuck 3s offense anymore, but he’s not the only guy anymore. It’s preseason and Danny always sucks in preseason, but he didn’t know how to make an impact when he wasn’t the clear #1 option. I’m confident he’ll figure it out, but with West, an improved PG, Hill, and hopefully a more consistent Roy, Danny’s going to need to ad lib offense a lot more. Hell, everyone will.
They REALLY need to learn to play together is what I’m saying. I imagine they will, but it’s going to take time. The offense might be pretty ugly the first handful of games.
Sup Jello Shot?
Everyone needs to recognize their respective roles
And it’s why I wasn’t so excited about rumors of Danny improving his handles for driving to the rim. I want him to improve, but also recognize that he’ll never be an iso player like Kobe or Durant. I’d much rather him take on the Ray Allen role on this team, move w/o the ball, shoot 3’s, spread the floor, with the occasional drive.
When Coach Vogel stressed playing like the Celtics last season, I hoped he’d be able to convey how important role playing allows the Celts to be successful. In fact, this team really reminds me of the 2008 Celtics, not in overall talent, but definitely what roles each player plays, especially on offense. Let DC poke and prod like Rondo, allow Danny and West spread the floor and hit outside shots like KG and Allen, let Paul play like, well, Paul and do a little bit of everything, and let Roy be the enforcer and pick up the scraps like Perk used to.
I don’t want Danny ad libbing so much, b/c he’s not that good at it, and probably never will be. He’s a knockdown shooter with questionable handles. Move w/o the ball and let DC or even Roy find you at the arc or cutting to the basket.
That’s my vision anyway. But we’ll see how it all unwraps. Go Pacers. BTW, Bankers Life? It’s gonna have to grow on me…




























