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#NBAFanVoice Day: Waiting On The Next Move For The Pacers

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The NBA lockout has been beyond frustrating for anyone following the Indiana Pacers. After taking their salary cap medicine for the past couple of years, the team is finally poised to add a player or too and make a trade or two that could make a big impact on improving the young core of players that tasted the playoffs last season.

Now if the season is salvaged there is going to be a frenzied free agency period with a modest pool of options. My hope is that the Pacers don't get caught up in the frenzy and spend because they can. David West would help the Pacers at power forward but overpaying for David West could end up hurting more in the long run.

That's where the frustration sets in with the labor negotiations. What will overpaying a player be going forward? Will the cap rules force teams to make some tough cuts and add to the free agent pool? Will a smaller salary cap give the Pacers enough remaining cap space to make the bold moves they want to and still fill out a roster?

Regardless of how the new CBA shakes out, the Pacers will be in great shape to handle the new system and continue growing. I just hope we get to see it soon.

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Both sides make me sick, I think they are greedy and out of touch. Do they realize that the economy is terrible right now? Do they realize that people working hard and living paycheck to paycheck to make it don’t care about the plight of millionaires vs billionaires, in fact we find the greed disgusting?

The players disgust me because they appear to be blind. Do they not play in empty arenas every night? How can you go on a road trip where you are playing at Indiana, at Charlotte, at Philadelphia in front of half filled arenas and not think something is wrong. They play with complete wastes like Jamaal Tinsley, James Posey, Eddy Curry and think that contracts are fine. Yeah the owners offered you the money and there’s nothing wrong in taking it, but why is the owner locked in to that contract when you lose any work ethic you ever had, put on extra weight, go get drunk way too often at strip clubs, which only leads to trouble, or just simply lose the talent you once had while becoming a locker room distraction? They think that big market teams spending twice as much as small market teams makes the league competitive, which is just wrong. I don’t care about the Heat, but there has to be a way to level the playing field for small market teams. The system is broken and needs changed, stop pretending like everything is fine and the old system is viable for the next 10 years. And please stop the twitter PR campaign. Your side is just as wrong as the owners we don’t need to here you talk in circles to try to pretend you are standing up for some great noble cause. I’m talking to you Dahntay Jones and Amare Stoudemire and all the other idiots talking way to much on social media. It’s laughable to hear these guys, who most didn’t go to college or spent one year there, lecturing about economics or the viability of player run leagues. Get a clue, the more games that are missed the worse the deal gets for you, you have no leverage.

Owners you are disgusting because the longer this goes on the more it appears you are just greedy. Yes, the system is broken and needs changed and yes teams lose money, but if you have cancelled games because you want to get spending under control and create a system with more competitive balance and not because you want a bigger split of the revenue you have done a terrible job of explaining that. You might have the worst PR in the history of media if you are actually going for big systematic changes. No, you just want more money. I could possibly get behind you if you were trying to fix what’s broken in the NBA, I’d still be angry that you cancelled games, but at least I could see the logic behind it. I don’t see a reason to cancel games because you want a bigger piece of the pie though, and because you thought it was a good idea to not meet until the absolute last minute and then give a fake offer 2 weeks ago that had no chance to pass and effectively ended negotiations until it was too late. No, I don’t think you’ve been bargaining in good faith. I think you wanted to cancel games all along. Why should we care about you trying to create a system where you are guaranteed profits in this economy? When people are losing jobs everyday and in a city where the tax payers pay $10 mil a year for the stadium, we should care that you are so incompetent at running NBA franchises that you need a system that saves you from yourselves? You sure love to point out the economic impact of a sports franchise when you have your hands out begging for money, but you sure don’t seem to care about the impact your greed has on those same business when you cancel games. This lockout could be over in two seconds if you’d take the 48% split and approve revenue sharing, but no you have to teach everyone a lesson and your probably right that the players will fold once they start losing paychecks. At what cost though? What do the fans get out of your new found financial security? Once you solve all your revenue problems will you be lowering ticket prices? I didn’t think so. Once again the fans are screwed and don’t be so sure they will all come flocking back. You’ve already killed all the momentum you had from last season from the casual fans and each day this lockout goes on the hardcore fans grow more angry. How long before people start tuning out for good?

by donnyfher on Oct 17, 2011 10:40 AM EDT reply actions  

While I don’t agree with everything you said, there is some validity to it. Players are showing they are out of touch with most fans (not the rich yuppies that sit in the front row), but real hardworking fans. They are out of touch with everything that doesn’t have a $ attached to it.

Owners know how to tweak their accounting papers to make it look like they are bleeding, but they are trying to make a point. That contracts have gotten way out of hand. It shouldn’t take a team 4+ years to get out of contract hell.

Please, less guaranteed years, or start putting in provisions that is a player is arrested/gets in major trouble to be suspended, you can void the contract. The Pacers may finally be out of those bad contracts, but it’ll be another few years before fans start coming back. A small market team like the Pacers can ill afford to have things happen like this. It makes me cringe and think that the Pacers will eventually be sold and moved to another city. All cause of some stupid ass players doing stupid ass things and the owners can’t do a damn thing about it.

I can get fired from my job for soooooooooooo much less. Why can’t sports players?

And it's now my sig
by Bronn on May 17, 2011 4:56 PM EDT

by Sparhawk on Oct 17, 2011 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

I agree shorter contracts and an out based on behavior is a must, unfortunately I think at the end of the day I think we are going to end up with a system very similar to the old system with a different split of revenue. I would hope that people see Indiana as a basketball state and realize that the Pacers can get back to being the successful franchise it once was, but the team moving worries me as well, Simon isn’t getting any younger. The Pacers seem to have had some bad luck these last few years. If there wasn’t a lockout this would be the perfect time for the Pacers. Most people have tuned out the Colts and the Pacers have an exciting young roster full of likeable guys. If we could have gotten off to a quick start people would have started jumping on the bandwagon. Despite bad attendance again last year I think the tv ratings were the highest they’d been since 2004, so people are starting to notice this team.

by donnyfher on Oct 17, 2011 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

Can you put this in a FanPost?

Some quality fan outrage I’d like to put on the front page.

by Tom Lewis on Oct 17, 2011 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

I just don’t see David West being a very good fit for Hibbert, though he would be a good fit in the system since we need scoring help and Collison has some rapport with him.

Personally, though, I’d pass. He’s older and now has one bad knee.

And it's now my sig
by Bronn on May 17, 2011 4:56 PM EDT

by Sparhawk on Oct 17, 2011 11:11 AM EDT reply actions  

#NBAFanVoiceDay

Also known as #ThisLockoutIsKillingOurTrafficDay. Sorry, not trying to be cynical, jus’sayin.

Sup Jello Shot?

by IndyPacers on Oct 17, 2011 2:01 PM EDT reply actions  

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