Indiana Pacers Introduce Frank Vogel as Head Coach
With a positive press conference comes a new vote of confidence, as Larry Bird introduced interim head coach Frank Vogel. Bird had a number of positive things to say about Vogel, and at least for one night, Pacer fans can feel confident about the changes being made. The decision came from Bird himself regarding O’Brien’s firing. He felt comfortable with O’Brien as the Pacers went out West for their road trip that ended up being an 0-4 trip. Then as the Pacers failed to remain competitive against Orlando, he began to seriously think of a change. When Herb Simon gave him the go ahead to make whatever decision he wanted, Bird opted to move forward without O’Brien.
Bird didn’t want to come down to coach, but will be glad to offer Vogel and the rest of the coaching staff any advice and help they ask for, but he has to let the coach do his job. Ultimately, Bird was frustrated the young guys weren’t getting adequate playing time, especially making note of Tyler Hansbrough, but also mentioning Paul George, who has proved that time on the court has been a positive effect to his game, as well as Lance Stephenson, who he wouldn’t mind playing.
Most importantly, Bird didn’t like O’Brien tough love approach to the young guys. He was sure to state he didn’t like it as a coach, and he didn’t like it as a player. It seemed an ineffective way to handle a situation, even though you can’t always be positive. He noted that that kind of approach can work, but it wasn’t working with this group, as obvious by Roy Hibbert’s struggles.
With the change, Bird still expects the Pacers to be in the playoffs. Nothing has changed in terms of his decision to return, the future of the staff, but he knows the players will respond to Vogel and help him out. He fully trusts their maturity because he knows the guys he has on the team are good guys. He still wanted the fans to know that the franchise was committed; committed to the playoffs, committed to rebuilding quickly with no mistakes. He likes where the franchise is, even if the season isn’t in an optimal spot. When asked about Lester Conner, Bird had no regrets about him not being with the team.
Pacers fans were introduced to Frank Vogel, who is now the youngest head coach in the NBA, at age 37. Vogel began by saying he wishes he could’ve been accepting this job under different circumstances. He thanks Jim O’Brien for his opportunity and would say O’Brien said only positive things to Vogel about his new job. Vogel likes this team and has plenty of confidence he, along with his assistant coaches, can get results immediately.
When asked about what kind of changes he would be making, Vogel slyly dodged the answer, telling everyone to "stay tuned." He didn’t want tip off his opponents on any changes, but stated that some things, such as substitution patterns, could and would see immediate changes, but it becomes a little more difficult to change other facets of the team, but they will work on those changes as the season progresses. He did make a point to discuss that he wanted to use Hibbert’s versatility more, get him back to playing high level defense and fix his jumper.
Coach Vogel still looks for a seamless transition regardless of the circumstances. He has faith in the youth and the veterans, and already regrets that he can’t play everyone because he knows what he has on this team. A big question about the firing had to do with whether or not anyone stepping into the job had experience. Vogel pointed out that he is not only in his 14th season, but has worked at all levels in game preparation. Head coaching is different from assistant coaching? "That’s what they say." Welcome aboard, Coach.
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IDK why
and I never heard of him until now but I like this dude lol.
Stephenson getting some burn? Who sits or who is getting traded? He can’t play point guard so its gotta be shooting guard… so I assume PG is first wing off the bench and Stephen gets 10ish minutes a game when Danny sits? I could live with that (if Stephenson wasn’t such a shitty human being)
Rotation should be pretty simple honestly…
DC playing 30+ with Price backing up
Danny playing 35+ with PG as the primary back up
Dunleavy playing 20-30 depending on if he can hit a shot with PG backing up and Lance getting minutes here and there
Hans and McRoberts splitting time depending on who is playing better
Hibbert playing 30+ every single night no matter how bad he is with Foster picking up the rest
Stephenson thing surprised me
Bird mentioned getting him time twice. I don’t really know what to make of that, honestly. I had assumed Lance not playing was much more to do with Bird, the court date, and there simply not being any room for him.
Makes no sense to me...
if they plan on releasing him if he is found culpable.
The whole situation seems odd. They must know something that hasn’t been released or something… because just from the information the public has, I see no way you can justify what he did. And this doesn’t even consider his not paying a twitter prostitute fully lol.
He seems like a shitty human being that is really talented at getting buckets.
I really wonder if Bird has trades up his sleeves right now.
I tried to justify
Some of the recent roster moves (disappearance of McRoberts, Ford, and Rush’s prolonged vacation) as having to do with preservation of bodies for deadline moves. I’m not sure what that will look like tomorrow night, but I am interested in seeing how the deadline plays out, because Stephenson’s altercations aside, I simply don’t think there’s room for him, but deadline moves could open up room for him. I’ll assume he’s coming out of the court date unscathed, given the mention of his name now.
I like dbcd's 10 man rotation
for the time being, but I also agree with you Nathan. We are loaded at the wing position, but the injury to Rush does open up some minutes (assuming Posey will take a back seat). Lets see what Lance can do, then see what our needs are in relation to deadline trades. If Lance looks like he is filling in nicely, lets try to trade some of the other wings (not like they are exempt from trades now anyways) for some size. If Lance struggles out there, well, maybe we can include him in a future trade based on potential.
Pretty much either way we, as fans, win.
I can honestly say I would take Stephenson over Rush...
Although, my Rush hate is very noted. I was surprised by Bird saying he was gonna get time too. I thought he wasn’t playing because of the FO like you said. All I can think is that the thing involving his gf wasn’t real or something of that nature. The prostitute thing, you’ll have to excuse me if I don’t believe her and isn’t she doing something illegal in this case as well. But getting back to point, I like the way this Vogel guy talks. I was honestly expecting a more script “blah blah stuff blah blah winning culture blah blah…” Can’t wait to see the young guys and the changes he is talking about.
by infinityzero.systemerror on Jan 31, 2011 12:18 AM EST up reply actions
+1
I literally know nothing about him. But I like him too. That could just be residual excitment from the JOB firing but I’m ready for tomorrow either way.
I survived Jim Harbaugh week
by return2greatness on Jan 30, 2011 5:35 PM EST up reply actions
Sorry if anhyone made this comparison in the previous thread
but first thing I thought when I saw Vogel was Brad Stevens. Maybe it’s the youth.
I thought the same thing.
Then I also thought of Josh McDaniels, former Broncos coach. So it must be the youth.
by Abe the Hoosier on Jan 30, 2011 7:06 PM EST up reply actions
Tomorrow I will try to post tomorrow but as for now..................
ITS CELEBRATION TIME FELLAS, J.OB IS GONE!!!!!! LOL
If anyone was at work or y'know, has a life
You can watch the presser here
http://www.wthr.com/story/13934950/pacers-fire-head-coach
Larry Bird turned Troy Murphy into Darren Collison
rush is injured right now
so maybe lance can back up Mike a bit… Let the kid play. I was so happy when i got the news at work!! I had a rough week but now thats all over!! lol
New attitude
Hallelujah!
I like what Vogel has to say: "We will exhaust all of our resources to get this turned around. This definitely isn’t about what I’m going to do, it is about what we are going to try to do."
He is certainly going to need some help. So far as I can tell, he has no head coaching experience at any level, and never played in the NBA. Is he a good basketball mind? We’re going to find out.
Trying to balancing winning and the need to develop players will be no easy task. But a new attitude, a “we can do it together” attitude, will go a long ways toward building team cohesion. This team has talent, some of it pretty raw. Let’s see if they can get that ball moving on offense, and make the rotations on defense. No more letting the other team’s top player just burn through the defense. No more letting the hot player sit on the end of the bench!
Time's up
It was just time. Whether JOB deserved the hourly criticism or not doesn’t matter. I think we were all just tired of seeing the same mediocre result game after game, season after season.
Good luck to Mr. Vogel. If this experiment ends up showing the real problem lies within the personnel, then heaven help us all.



























