Indiana Pacers
The Indiana Pacers used to be the pride of Indiana. They were some of my best childhood memories watchin' them with my father as a youngster in the 90's. Maybe that's why I'm a huge homer, and don't believe in being a bandwagon jumper. God knows I've been surrounded by enough Bulls and Patriot fans to make me puke. I always try to tow the line, even when I was really upset when they drafted Paul George, I calmed down and tried to look positive on it. Low and behold I am actually really excited about it now. Maybe that's the reason I have faith Rush and Hans will reach there potential. Overall, now that I have seen where we have been headed the last couple years, I am really excited, we have made some really good moves. We have a really well rounded team and with the addition of a couple key pieces and a good coach, this will be a team that can run wih anybody.
Now though it seems everyone has forgotten the great things this team has brought to this city. With the Brawl, the legal problems, the win// losses, and the Colts, I can understand fans frustrations, I've been as frustrated as anyone. There is no reason to flip out over infractions against guys like Rush though. (I'm not touching the stevenson's thing) We need to quit tryin to be like these beat writers, trying to tear down our team to sell some newspapers. Let's give these guys the benefit of the doubt and support our team. We have become some of the worst fans around and it is time we make our choice, are we gonna be true fans or are we gonna be Heat fans?
Go Pacers!!
Sincerely ,
The Ramblin' Man
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sidenote i meant to fit in
Reggie Miller averaged 13 ppg in his first 2 seasons.
Rush shot 41 % from three last season.
yeah kinda sacriligious but my point is it takes 3 years before you can really judge a player
by Justin Arnold on Sep 1, 2010 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Yea!!!
I love a good swipe at the Heat (anymore). Wouldn’t be surprised if the Arena is still dead every night in Miami though.
by infinityzero.systemerror on Sep 1, 2010 9:45 PM EDT reply actions
Actually, Ive got a good one thats more towards Lebron.....
Celtics add some big tim e bruisers in the oneal boys, but they wanted to make sure they left the Heat and Lebron beaten and bruised so they signed his daddy….. Delonte West
by Justin Arnold on Sep 1, 2010 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Indy is a fair weather city
Always has been, always will be. Remember when no one gave a shit about the Colts but now that they have Manning the stadium’s full of “diehards since 84?” Until the team starts winning again the tone of the city and state isn’t going to change.
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I remember lots of fans when Harbough was running things
harbough is epic.
It's apples-to-oranges (sorry this is long)
I’ve been alive since ‘83, in Indy since ’85 and a Colts fan since I could sit still for more than 30 seconds. My brother and I have been season ticket holders for going on 3 years now, but only because we lucked into a situation where we got to jump to the front of the waiting list. We are deeply immersed in the bandwagon culture that has enveloped the city regarding the Colts. But here’s my take on it:
1. It’s annoying as hell to deal with bandwagon jumpers. They piss you off if you’ve “put in your time.” Especially if their seats are better than yours, or they have the money to tailgate, buy expensive jerseys, etc and you don’t.
2. Every “real” Colts fan says that once Manning retires and this team sucks again, the bandwagon will start to rapidly empty, like it sort of has for the Pacers, and we’ll be back where we were prior to the Polian era (and even for the first few years of the Polian era): constantly wondering if our team will skip town because of ungrateful fans.
However…
3. There’s a certain power to what the Colts have done to farm all these bandwagon jumpers, and I honestly believe that once they’re on, they’re not jumping off…at least not all of them. The Colts phenomenon is unbelievable. The economic, social, and even cultural changes that have occured thanks to them are imeasurable. Yes, once the Colts start back with the yearly crappy records, and/or the NFL pay structure inevitably shifts to favor large markets even more and that catches up with them, people will leave the wagon in droves. Games will be blacked out. But you have to remember what it was like before, when people in our city wouldn’t even give them a chance because they were so used to being Bears fans and the Colts were so alien, and unlikeable because of bad personalities on the team, and just plain bad football. I’m young, but I remember, and even stuff I don’t remember I’ve refreshed myself on (check out Nate Dunlevy’s book, “Blue Blood”).
A few things wil irreparably decimate the Colts in Indy: The economy vs. the cost of tickets, mismanagement (which we’ve been so lucky to avoid to this point) and bad behavior off-the-field, which is something Indianapolis-area residents, given their blue collar disposition, have a hard time stomaching.
That last point is just one of the things that makes the Pacers a (rotten) apple, and the Colts a (delicous) orange. The brawl, the drugs, the fights, the guns, the endless stream of bad media exposure…that’s all something the Colts have done a good job avoiding. But of course there’s more.
The Pacers are in a market that can’t sustain them. They’ve been in the top 10 in attendance just a few times in history, even when they were among the most successful franchises in the NBA every year. They also play in a league that’s only a fraction as globally-popular and successful as the NFL. The cards are stacked against them and there’s very little margin for error (but sadly, the errors have been plenty).
So it’s not the same, is all I’m saying. Indy has grown A TON in both populous and economic prestige since the 80s. Now’s the time for a successful NFL franchise to really capitalize on that. Had the Pacers avoided all the negativity and mismanagement, while they may have never been truly profitable, they could have at least tapped into the new wave of affluent, young Indy buisness-class people who were willing to watch a losing product while it was rebuilding. Now they’re just SOL, probably.
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Good stuff
I agree with everything except for your “globally popular” comment. Domestically, the NFL is by far the most popular sport we have. Internationally, though? Internationally/globally, American football hasn’t really caught on, while basketball , on the other hand, is a global phenomenon. If there’s one thing the NFL is jealous of that the NBA has is, it’s the NBA’s global influence. That’s why Goodell keeps scheduling these silly games in Europe. Think about how popular basketball is in Europe, China, and other parts of the world. Nobody outside the U.S. really cares about or plays American Football.
I guess I meant "universally"
I was more referring to its popularity crossing over all “genres” of sports fans. Men, women, children, young, old…etc
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Gotcha.
I figured I was probably making something out of nothing.

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