A Little Tyler Hansbrough Update, Pacers Talk Of The Town
by Tom Lewis on Jul 14, 2010 6:00 AM EDT
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The Indiana Pacers have been the talk of Indianapolis the past few days with plenty of chatter around the Pacers' deal with the CIB to help run Conseco Fieldhouse.
Among all of the talk, Mark Montieth did a little reporting on the status of Tyler Hansbrough by checking in with Hansbrough's father, who is a doctor, to see if he had an update on his son's health. Dr. Dad deferred the details, not wanting to speak for the Pacers' doctors, plus there's the whole HIPPA thing, but he did offer Montieth a general positive response to share with the public. Bottom line is, he felt confident that Tyler would be ready to go once camp started and he's been working out this summer. This verifies what the what folks with the Pacers have been saying this summer while trying to say nothing definitive.
After the jump, a few links of interest including tons of podcasts as Larry Bird and Mayor Ballard made the radio rounds yesterday. Includes an interesting discussion about T.J. Ford and Danny Granger between Dan Dakich and Bird. Also, scratch Kyle Lowry from the list of potential point guards for the Pacers.
- Podcasts: Dan Dakich with Larry Bird, Mayor Ballard, Anthony Schoettle, JMV with Larry Bird, Mark Patrick with Larry Bird.
- Deal with Dallas gives Bobcats financial flexibility
Rick Bonnell reports on Charlotte trading for some flexibility but still needing to fill a need at point guard. - Cleveland Cavaliers sign guard Kyle Lowry to offer sheet
Brian Windhorst reports on Pacer PG target, Kyle Lowry getting a $6 mil/year offer from Cleveland which puts him out of range for anything the Pacers could offer this year. - Sources: Denver Nuggets reach agreement with Al Harrington
The Denver Nuggets have reached an agreement in principle on a five-year, $34 million contract with former Pacer, Al Harrington. - Ridnour ready to join Minnesota's point guard parade - JSOnline
Charles F. Gardner reports that the Bucks are now searching for a backup point guard since Luke Ridnourappears set to joing the PG pool in Minnesota. Local boy Travis Diener may get a look whic seems like a good fit for Travis. - Pacers are major piece of puzzle
Emmis CEO, Jeff Smulyan sticks up for the Pacers in a Letter to the Editor.
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Bird was also on "The Ride with JMV" on 1070TheFan.com
A link to yesterday’s interview with Larry Bird should be somewhere on this page (until it gets buried by newer JMV episodes": http://www.1070thefan.com/podcast/
I called in to JMV afterwards...
I asked JMV if Larry Bird seemed to be feeling any urgency in his “contract year”… jmv didn’t really answer, because he has to be somewhat of a “kiss ass”, so he can get Larry on again someday, but – he said that our expiring contracts will get more and more valuable as the season progresses… IT SEEMS LIKE IF ALL BIRD IS GOING TO DO IS SIT ON THESE UNTIL (OR IF) SOMEONE MAKES HIM AN OFFER HE CAN’T REFUSE SOME MONTHS FROM NOW, THEN ANY IDIOT COULD DO THAT AND THE PACERS SHOULD FIRE HIM NOW AND LET SOMEONE ELSE DO HIS JOB…. :) I thought GMs were supposed to be more pro-active than Bird (like Donny Walsch was with the Pacers and still is with the Knicks)…
by FortWayneKarl on Jul 14, 2010 8:34 AM EDT up reply actions
Oh, you already had the JMV link!
My bad, sorry… :)
by FortWayneKarl on Jul 14, 2010 8:36 AM EDT up reply actions
Bird is all about Bird
Larry Bird thinks everyone wants to play for him or other teams are going to give him big deals because he is Larry Bird. He leans back in his chair like he is King. Meanwhile the other teams laugh at Bird on his ignorance. Why Bird and JOB are still employed by the Pacers is a mystery.
by Slick4President on Jul 14, 2010 9:06 AM EDT reply actions
Either Ownership has a plan or not...
Agreed!
I’m hoping Simon plans on getting rid of both Bird and JOB at the end of this season, but like you said, it is a total mystery as to why they have been allowed to drag the franchise down and down and down…
In his JMV interview, Larry changed his tune from “we have to win now” to “we should be better than last year” – what a boob Bird is!
by FortWayneKarl on Jul 14, 2010 9:14 AM EDT up reply actions
Wait just a minute!
I have been just as critical over the hiring and retention of JOB but I think almost everyone who has commented thus far on the above post is dead wrong about Bird.
The guy has a proven history of success (as a man, as a player, as a coach). He inherited a crap situation…absolute crap situation. The community demanded a team it could be proud of (i.e., no more assault/gun/stripper/??? stories concerning Pacers personnel on the front page of the Star.
He delivered. Then we all said, “uh, maybe nice guys that can win too?” He is putting the pieces in place to deliver on that end but it is not like Indy has the pull of L.A. or South Beach or a litany of other venues that compel the top free agents to put the Pacers on their short lists. So, we have to be creative and look for talent that others miss (i.e., Stephenson, Rolle, etc…).
Y’all are bitter because we’ve missed the playoffs a few years in a row. And most of you are right, JOB is not the best man for the job but mark my words, Larry Legend is the right man.
Have some patience, enjoy the upcoming season (it may be our last for a while with the CBA expiring) and watch…we are nicely set up for a climb up the standings and back into prominence.
I love Larry Legend
but it is getting harder and harder to stand up for him with every passing day.
by captain flitzy on Jul 14, 2010 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions
RE: "uh, maybe nice guys that can win too?"
Wouldn’t that have been assumed?
Also, I don’t think any of our “bad guys” besides Shawne Williams – A LARRY BIRD PICK – have proven to be BAD CITIZENS elsewhere – leading me to believe that if the situations had been handled correctly by Larry Bird in the first place, then he wouldn’t have had to FIRE SALE away our talent and we wouldn’t be suffering thru the growing string of losing seasons with no end in sight!
by FortWayneKarl on Jul 14, 2010 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions
People were calling for them to be traded.
Who knows, maybe even the owners wanted them gone.
by infinityzero.systemerror on Jul 14, 2010 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Success
Success as a man? Ask the daughter that he abandoned what kind of man he is. The only reason he was successful as a coach was because he had a veteran team that had played together for years that needed very little coaching. I think the only thing he gave them as a coach was confidence. No question he has a history of success as a player.
Hmm...
Somehow I just don’t care about his personal life.
by infinityzero.systemerror on Jul 14, 2010 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Me either
I don’t care about his personal life either…but when someone says Bird has a “history of success” as a man, I can’t let it slide! Plus very overrated as a coach.
You could say the same about Phil Jackson
He’s always had talent around him.
by infinityzero.systemerror on Jul 14, 2010 11:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Well...
Phil Jackson has actually coached a championship team or 2…or 11.
But he did so with, I would say,
With much better talent. MJ, Kobe, Shaq
by infinityzero.systemerror on Jul 15, 2010 12:04 AM EDT up reply actions
Cruise control
Jackson installed new offensive schemes, new defensive schemes and dealt with highly volatile personalities. Bird did none of that…he just put it in cruise control and went along for the ride. I can’t continue to blindly support Bird when I don’t trust him to do the job effectively. Hopefully, he’ll prove me wrong…but his track record makes me think he won’t.
Agreed
not a JOB fan, but Bird is doing fine. Culture HAD to change. It was getting pretty embarrassing. Now, we have to add more talent. This last draft helped. I’m also glad Bird hasn’t been swept up by this high spending…some of these deals are ridiculous. If we overpaid a long term deal, all you clowns screaming for us to do anything to fill a immediate need will be all broke up for years when the guy isn’t worth the money and were tied up long term. I can hear it now “Bird is such an idiot!” “Why did he spend so much money on this bum!?” “Bird can’t evaluate talent!” “Yada, yada yada yada…!” It can’t go both ways. I prefer a GM who keeps his head when the Kahns of the NBA are scampering around making bad choice after bad choice in some sort of panicked state…that’s just me though.
Confucious say "He who dives for loose balls need proper fitting athletic cup!"
by Wise Master on Jul 15, 2010 12:59 AM EDT up reply actions
Agree
If we make moves they need to be the right moves. Its has been tough enough the last four years so there is no reason to panic now and do a deal to just do a deal.
by Pacerlove333 on Jul 15, 2010 1:26 AM EDT up reply actions
As far as the personal life digs...
…really guys??? That’s pretty freaking juvenile. Let him who is with out sin be the first to cast a stone. IDC about Birds daughter, or whatever. Walsh put this team in a bad place before he left. He lost his touch, now he’s making those same bad decisions in the big apple. I think our team is on the right course, were just missing a piece or two. Bird knows that, it takes another willing GM to agree to a deal. Bird (nor any other GM) can force another GM to agree to a trade. That’s the bottom line. If we can’t get the right deal, don’t make one and we’ll be a player in next years FA market.
Confucious say "He who dives for loose balls need proper fitting athletic cup!"
Casting my stone.
Ah, even sinner can do it.
by infinityzero.systemerror on Jul 15, 2010 2:34 AM EDT up reply actions
I'll back patience...
what does everybody think of the Free Agency signings this year? let me rephrase and ask it more on the lines of do you guys agree with how much some of these guys (who signed/re-signed this summer)are getting paid? are they worth it? i mean Rudy Gay ($80 over 5 years), Darko ($20 over 4 years), Joe Johnson ($120 over 6) … these numbers are unbelievable to me. this is obviously not the first time we are seeing this. so my point – yes this is also a CBA issue but most importantly this is a GM issue.
We are one of just a handful of teams in the NBA who have a GM that is playing his cards right. Bird took over a terrible situation and has done what he said he was going to do. much of the crap that was on the team (that he needed to get rid of) was because of walsh. why do we always like to blame bird for it? yes he was an assistant under walsh then but come on, walsh made the final decisions on it.
bird may seem to be sitting back and waiting but lets applaud the fact that he’s not just going out and spending money on used to be good players that aren’t worth it or risky potential. he doesn’t have the money to work with so he’s playing a patient hand and capitalizing on the best opportunties.
Jeff Smulyan
Has been the guy I think is the next Pacers owner for a good while now. Extremely rich, Indy based, history of pro sports ownership. His letter to the editor just reinforces it.
Hey, 3 year plan y'know
Link?
Please provide a link to Jeff Smulyan’s letter to the editor. Thanks! :)
Injury Info
Does anyone know of a website that details Team Injuries and Injury History?
I am amazed at how oft-injured these Pacer teams have been recently. I just don’t recall Pacers going down at rates like this maybe Pre-2002 or so. I could understand it if we were an aged team, but we aren’t and haven’t been for awhile. It’s part of the league sure, but these are guys in their early 20s even before their prime going down.
Speaking of injury updates
Heard Mike Wells on the radio with JMV a couple days ago and he said AJ Price may be ready to go by the end of October. That’d mean he may be good to go from game 1.
Hey, 3 year plan y'know
still don't trust him as a starter
but better than having him injured.
Me either
But better than having Ford and The Lance Stephenson Experiment as our only viable PGS.
Hey, 3 year plan y'know
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