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NBA Draft 2010 -- Pacers

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As the Pacers hold a 1.1% chance of landing the number one overall pick, odds are the Pacers will be drafting 10th.  Let's take a look at some of the players who could be available who would help the Pacers out.

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At the Tenth Pick

Power Forward:

Greg Monroe

Hassan Whiteside

Ed Davis

Ekpe Udoh

Patrick Patterson

Donatas Motiejunas

 

Shooting Guard:

Xavier Henry

 

Monroe would be quite a steal as the tenth pick.  If he is available, I don't think there is any doubt that is who we should draft.  Whiteside and Udoh have some upside, and Davis and Patterson are not as skilled as Monroe.  And Motiejunas would just be another finesse Euro.  You can make the argument for Whiteside, but I feel as if Monroe would mesh with Roy more due to his offensive skill set.

You can also make an interesting case for Xavier Henry.  With a good deal of upside and athleticism, he could be a good long term SG.  Just depends on how much the Pacers believe in Brandon Rush.

Larry Bird also mentioned they may look to trade up, or down.  I feel as if trading up would be nearly impossible for the Pacers, considering the pieces they have that they're willing to move and their reluctance to accept bad contracts.  I think it is unlikely that they trade down too, considering the lack of promising PF's in the late first round.

Let's not forget the Pacers do have a second round pick, and potentially another.  That second second round pick belongs to Dallas.  We'll get either this year's 2nd from them or next year's thanks to our Shawne William's trade.  Here are a few players of interest that could be available then.

 

At the 40th Pick

Center:

Solomon Alabi

 

Forward:

Craig Brackins

Jarvis Varnado

 

Guard:

Armon Johnson

Greivis Vasquez

Willie Warren

 

Lots of speculation here, but it's really up to the Pacers to decide what direction they're going in.  They're going to have to draft a Power Forward sometime in the draft.  I think around tenth, there is a good number of potential solid NBA starters to choose from, so that is the direction I think they will go in.  Especially considering this is very likely to be Jeff Foster and Troy Murphy's last season with the Pacers.   I also think it is unlikely that the Pacers keep Solomon Jones another season due to the emergence of Josh McRoberts and the return of Tyler Hansbrough.  In terms of the elusive search of a franchise PG, I really don't see one besides John Wall in this draft.  A pretty decent PG/Combo guard could be found with their second round pick.  I really don't see Earl Watson returning either.  While he has been a solid contributor, I think it would be best considering how I want to see more of AJ Price.

So overall, I see a PF first round, PG/SG second round, and potentially another player, depending on Dallas' decision.  It will really take another year until the Pacers look dramatically different, once Mike Dunleavy, Troy Murphy, Jeff Foster, TJ Ford, and Earl Watson are off the books, but this draft could be a step in the right direction.

Thanks for reading and please share your thoughts.

Poll
Who should the Pacers draft with the 10th pick?
Greg Monroe
146 votes
Hassan Whiteside
30 votes
Ed Davis
20 votes
Patrick Patterson
32 votes
Epke Udoh
44 votes
Donatas Motiejunas
24 votes
Xavier Henry
68 votes
Other
40 votes

404 votes | Poll has closed

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Brilliant move to finish strong

As much as I hate watching teams throw games for lotto positioning, its even more frustrating to see a team play their way out of a good draft position. We sat patiently through 4 and a half months of bad basketball then threw it all away in the last month.

That 1.1% could have been up around 10%.

Oh well, at least we’ll always have the memories of those thrilling wins over the likes of the Knicks, Nets, Pistons and Wizards. That is much better than having John Wall or Evan Turner, right?

by TheNoodleMan on Apr 18, 2010 6:23 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Monroe

My first pick has been Henry for a long time. Because Bird isn’t really high on rush just adds to my speculation. Henry is a tremendous defender and shooter, but to my main point Monroe would be perfect for the Pacers. He reminds me so much of Lamar Odom. I just wonder how much upside Monroe has compared to Henry.

by HoosierHoops14 on Apr 18, 2010 7:44 PM EDT reply actions  

I don't like Monroe for us...

I don’t think he has the type of motor we need. He can’t shoot from outside like Odom can though either… He could be a better passer than Odom, but I don’t think he’s as athletic either. I think that Udoh would be the better fit for us. He’s the defensive presence we need at the 4. To me, he’s got the best upside.

~SHaFF!~

by SHaFF87 on Apr 19, 2010 9:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

Monroe, 19 Udoh, 22

Udoh is intriguing but honestly i smell a bust. I mean where was this guy last year? He could work out just because you can never really tell at this point but he is already 22. How much more upside does he have?

 Monroe never really got a chance to fully display his offensive game: much like Hibbert because of Georgetown’s share the ball philosophy. Monroe is a terrific passer and player overall plus he’s only 19. And if Hibbert can run the floor with the Pacers there is no reason Monroe can’t.

by HoosierHoops14 on Apr 19, 2010 9:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

Udoh was sitting out because he transferred from Michigan, that’s why you didn’t see him last year. Just sayin’.

by ThirtyOne on Apr 19, 2010 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

Udoh is older...

Which Bird seems to like. I’m not a big fan of drafting a REALLY young player with our only pick so far in the 1st round. I just think Monroe and Hibbert together wouldn’t work well. I don’t think Monroe would ever be more than a backup to hibbert. You are right though, he’s only 19, so who knows where he goes in the future. I just don’t think he’s a good fit for the Pacers.

~SHaFF!~

by SHaFF87 on Apr 20, 2010 12:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

I feel like

Monroe does have a considerable amount of upside, but not as much as Henry. If Monroe is there, I just don’t think we can pass him up since talented big men are tougher to come by, in my opinion. If we knew Henry was our guy, maybe we could pull a Jerryd Bayless-Brandon Rush-esque trade to get him and to pick up a couple more pieces, or let go of a bad contract, or two.

by MillerTime31 on Apr 18, 2010 9:02 PM EDT reply actions  

And I hope the "other" votes

in this poll are not for Gordon Hayward. That would almost be as bad as taking Cole Aldrich. He just doesn’t fit any need.

by MillerTime31 on Apr 18, 2010 9:06 PM EDT reply actions  

Talent

There’s not a player being considered that doesn’t have talent. Tell me where we would play Hayward. Small Foward? Oh, Danny Granger. SG? He’s a little slow.. PF? I like the kid, but we don’t need him.

by MillerTime31 on Apr 18, 2010 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

History repeats itself

I love Hayward as much as the next guy, but he is making a huge mistake. His body is not ready to compete in the NBA and he needs to get his shooting accuracy back to what it was his freshman year. The guy is just not NBA ready

The last time everyone wanted the Pacers to take a local hero, they took a bald skinny kid out of ULCA. That one worked out pretty well.

by 2ndBlueGeneration on Apr 18, 2010 11:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

My point is simply if the team thinks he's the best player available at the pick they should take him.

We’re not close enough to being good to take anything except “best available player.”

by SethGrandpa on Apr 19, 2010 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Draft

He’s a more endearing Dunleavy.

We could do a lot worse with that pick. In fact, I’m mentally preparing myself that we will (do worse).

by STLPacerFan on Apr 18, 2010 11:41 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Yea I agree with TheNoodleMan. When I watched the press conference and when Bird said he had thought about trading up to get a top 5 pick….. It almost made me sick….. we wooda had one already! God!

by B-Huse on Apr 18, 2010 10:37 PM EDT reply actions  

but if we did trade up

it would be absolutely worth it Wall, Turner, Favors, Cousins, and Wes Johnson are all studs. This draft reminds me a little of the 03’ draft

by HoosierHoops14 on Apr 18, 2010 11:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

But the point is..

We wouldn’t have even had to worry about trading up if we never went on that streak. That probably set us back 4 years at least.

by MillerTime31 on Apr 19, 2010 12:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

??

I’m confused on how you think the winning streak set us back at least 4 years, if the Pacers were to trade up??? I wasn’t for the winning streak, liked to see us tank if we were going to lose…..I wish we could/could have landed Turner or Walls

by BringbackReggie#31 on Apr 19, 2010 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

Cause if we did trade up that means we’d have to trade something…. Only players I see getting team’s attention is Roy or Danny.

by B-Huse on Apr 19, 2010 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

I really dont know much..

about any of these guys but know there is little chance any of them will be of much help this coming season. As far as Hayward – College player Hayward = Ex NBA nobody Croshere. Hayward fame is the recent NCAA tourney games and Croshere had that one good playoff series with made him millions.

by Slick4President on Apr 19, 2010 12:24 AM EDT reply actions  

Bledsoe

Eric Bledsoe. Everytime I watched Kentucky the guy who impressed was not Wall. It was Bledsoe.

He is a baller.

by P J on Apr 19, 2010 1:41 AM EDT reply actions  

No Austin Croshere knocking aloud!

He was solid Pacer for years. He wasn’t an All-Star but he played his heart out every game. He was a great shooter, an above average rebounder, and a good defender considering his physical limitations. As far as Bledsoe you should check out some of his stats a little more. He averaged more turnovers than assists this year. Not a good sign for someone wanting to become and NBA point guard. A few days ago I put together a longer analysis of Bledsoe. Check out the link here.
Hickory High

by Ian Levy on Apr 19, 2010 7:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

best case scenario imo...

get udoh and trade murphy for another 1st round pick to get bledsoe in mid-late first round. Or if we can’t get that done, pick up Udoh and then grab Cherron Collins in the 2nd round. I think the combo of AJ Price with his ability to his the 3, and Collins’ ability to get to the rim would be a great thing for the Pacers to have for a long time.

~SHaFF!~

by SHaFF87 on Apr 19, 2010 9:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sherron can’t get to the rim in the NBA. He probably led the nation in most times he got his drives to the rim rejected. He’s an excellent ballhandler and a great leader but he can’t shoot and he’s to short to attack the rim in the NBA. With all my complaints though he wouldn’t be a terrible backup for us as long as we have a great starter.

by ThirtyOne on Apr 19, 2010 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

Just sayin, but they said the same thing about Ty Lawson. If Sherron is there at our second pick we’ve gotta take him

by B-Huse on Apr 19, 2010 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think Collins is determined enough to take his game to that next level. I think he can find a way to make it work just because of his work ethic. Somewhat the same way I feel about Hansbrough…….. eventually…..
I just think he’s a great pick for our 2nd rounder. And he would be a GREAT backup for the future. I don’t think he is the future starting PG of the Pacers or anything like that, don’t get me wrong. But I think he would be a great change of pace guy very similarly to a Ty Lawson, or like the role TJ Ford would have been perfect for.

~SHaFF!~

by SHaFF87 on Apr 20, 2010 12:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

Bledsoe.....

What is not to love about this kid? Sure he averaged a lot of turnovers but he’s young and skilled. There are plenty of studs who turn the ball over at a high rate and he will have plenty of time to work on it with his decision making. People forget he was a top 5 PG recruit behind Wall and if he were on another team would have had a lot more attention on him. He shoots the ball great (something the Pacers haven’t had from a PG in who knows how long) and is athletic, strong, and quick. I personally think he has all the tools to be a great player in the league and would love to see the Pacers take a shot on him.

"My game’s like the Pythagorean Theorem. It ain’t got no answer." - Shaq

by bleedinblueandgold on Apr 20, 2010 3:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

agreed.

Worst case scenario, AJ price gets more playing time if Bledsoe needs time to get back into PG mode. He’s 6’1" so he’s decent size. I wouldn’t pick him at 10, but like I said, I would love to trade Murphy and get him later, and draft udoh at 10.

~SHaFF!~

by SHaFF87 on Apr 20, 2010 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1...kind of

Agreed on the Bledsoe part, but I don’t think Udoh is the right pick at 10. He came out of no where to have a great season. I’m not entirely convinced he’s legit. I do value his size and defense, which is something the Pacers despirately need from the PF position. If Indy takes him, I would not be disappointed.

The FAULK

by incredibleFAULK on Apr 22, 2010 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would be extremely disapointed to see them go with Monroe =(

~SHaFF!~

by SHaFF87 on Apr 26, 2010 12:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

Croshere overpaid...

and I didnt think we were ever going to get rid of his contract. He played hard but wasnt worth what the Pacers gave him. He was a average NBA player with poor hands that was paid big bucks by the Pacers becuase of his playoff play in one season. This set the trend the Pacers still have signing players at a premium price and not getting much ouf of them, or just letting them rot on the bench. The trend continues with present players such as Ford and past such as Tinsley. The Pacers are willing to pay out millions of dollars and let JOB sit them on the bench but cant pay 15 million for Conseco. Really doesnt make much sense to me.

by Slick4President on Apr 19, 2010 9:14 AM EDT reply actions  

IMO

monroe’s gotta be the guy if he’s available. i doubt he will be though…

what a nice PF rotation that would be though. highly skilled, more finesse guy in monroe alternating with the human wrecking ball hansbro..

by BenD on Apr 19, 2010 10:19 AM EDT reply actions  

Yeah!

a front court of Monroe, Hansbrough, and Hibbert sounds great. Oh and don’t forget about the ever improving McRoberts

by HoosierHoops14 on Apr 19, 2010 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

but...

you guys like that rotation, but you don’t like the rotation of Udoh, Hansbrough, and McRoberts?

~SHaFF!~

by SHaFF87 on Apr 20, 2010 12:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

But how cool would it be if we got the first pick? Tell me you wouldn’t be running naked in the street lol

by B-Huse on Apr 19, 2010 1:31 PM EDT reply actions  

I still don't see Bledsoe making the jump to Point Guard

This makes him an athletic, but undersized shooting guard who turns the ball over a ton. Not sure that’s a net positive for the Pacers. I put together a list of all the guys who left college after averaging more turnovers than assists. It doesn’t make you feel positive about Bledsoe’s future. He seems to me to have all the tools to be a high-volume inefficient scorer on a losing team. (see: Ellis, Monta and Gordon, Ben)

I’m all for taking one of the PF prospects at the #10 pick. The problem is the logjam of mediocrity that is likely to ensue. I am pretty skeptical of anyone talking Murphy off our hands this summer. I especially doubt anyone would offer us a 1st rounder. That means we will have Foster, Murphy, Hibbert, Hansborough (hopefully), McRoberts, any front court draft picks and possibly Solomon Jones. It looks like JOB will be back so that means Murphy and Hibbert most likely starting. Hansborough and McRoberts are more effective at the 4 which means if the 10th pick is going to see any minutes at all he needs to be someone who can play some minutes at the 5 spot. That probably limits things to Whiteside or Monroe, at least until the trade deadline, when we can unload Murphy.

I mentioned this somewhere else, but I also think it is essential to hold on to Foster. He may not be able to produce that much on the floor but I think he will be invaluable as an example and a role model for our younger players. The things that he does well; defense, rebounding, hustle, offensive awareness; are the things we really want our young bigs to improve on. I say eat his salary this year, let him be a teacher and mentor.

Hickory High

by Ian Levy on Apr 19, 2010 2:31 PM EDT reply actions  

Donatas Motiejunas

Don’t overlook this guy, he’s raw and 19, he gifted in some areas that others in this draft are limited.

His strength right now is offense. According to Draft Express he’s able to go right or left off the dribble or with his back to the basket. He gets to the free throw line at a high rate in his league. It doesn’t take long to find people projecting him at Dirk Nowitski’s level, or comparing him to Andrea Bargnani right now. According to Draft Express(my favorite mock draft webpage) he looks very smooth. They project him to be very gifted offensively.

Donatas Is a legit 7 footer, and I’ve seen his wingspan measured at 7’3" which isn’t freakish but isn’t shabby.

If you don’t like Euro ball you won’t like him, but if you are a fan of upside, don’t think the pacers are “a year away” and are willing to let a big develop for awhile before expecting big things from him? I think you’ll like Donatas.

Where is the shout out for Jan Vesely on this? He’s a 6’11" sf/pf. I’ve heard at least one source call him this year’s sleeper. Seems to play a lot of Defense.

by Donzilla31 on Apr 19, 2010 3:02 PM EDT reply actions  

Donatas

He definitely is raw, and could be an asset for the Pacers. I think that he would not work well with Roy, though. Again, that’s just speculation and he could be a good player. It’s just that four out of every five Euros are “busts” in my opinion.

I know nothing about Vesely, and I’ll have to look him up. I hope the Pacers do work out many prospective draft picks and analyze them completely.

by MillerTime31 on Apr 19, 2010 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

yes.

From what I have heard, Vesely definitely could become very good. However, he could be a few years away from competing at an NBA level. Since he is anyway under contract in Europe till 2013, and I assume a buyout would be easier with fewer years left, the Pacers could leave him a year there and then bring him over. Wouldn’t hurt their luxury tax problems for the upcoming season either.

by bodi on Apr 21, 2010 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Trade the Pick, Go after a young PF in the League

We could always go after Jason Thompson, or another young kid too. I just really want to see us try and move some pieces around and catalyze the change.

by MillerTime31 on Apr 19, 2010 6:18 PM EDT reply actions  

Trade it for Devin Harris? How pumped do you think the Nets would be to have probably the first and the 10th pick to rebuild and excite a big name free agent? Plus if they acquire Wall, then they’ll be lookin to unload him. Throw in TJ.

by B-Huse on Apr 19, 2010 6:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

this is what I suggested if they can't move murphy for another 1st rounder.

If the Nets take wall, we offer either our 10th pick, or w/e pick we would get for murphy if it happened to be a first rounder along with TJ ford’s expiring contract that happens to match Harris’.

Nets get TJ Ford and 1st round pick.

Pacers get Devin Harris.

Best way things could EVER work out would be trade murphy for mid 1st round, trade that pick and Ford for Harris, and draft Udoh. To me, that is an A+ draft.

~SHaFF!~

by SHaFF87 on Apr 20, 2010 12:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

The Nets have to take that. I personally want to go after Iggy after that but it would be good to shop our final-year contracts around, test the waters. But, Devin Harris, Danny, and Roy is a very good start. Just get rid of Jim O’Brien’s terrible offensive system and we could be in some business.

by B-Huse on Apr 20, 2010 2:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

that would be awesom

i just think we should get Xavier Henry instead with the proposed mid 1st rounder

by HoosierHoops14 on Apr 20, 2010 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

oooo yea Anthony Randolph would be a good fit with Roy.

by B-Huse on Apr 20, 2010 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thompson is bad news...

There is zero chance Bird goes after Thompson after this came out three days ago:

http://tinyurl.com/AnotherJamaalTinsley

The FAULK

by incredibleFAULK on Apr 22, 2010 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh and if we do get Monroe, Roy and Greg would have to be known as the Georgetown boys.

by B-Huse on Apr 19, 2010 6:32 PM EDT reply actions  

Bledsoe is still 19 and learning. His high TO # is of concern… but Rose, Wall, and Turner all had/have high TO numbers as well… and have the ball in their hands alot more.

I still think he is special. He was overshadowed by the Wall hype (didn’t see Wall do much special) and Cousins (who is special).

by P J on Apr 19, 2010 7:07 PM EDT reply actions  

Hmmm,

considering how things typically go with Larry running things I am pretty confident that we’ll end up taking someone not on this poll. Last year none of us seen Tyler Hansbrough being the pick but he was. So maybe we should look for the most random selection and that will probably end up being the pick.

by ThirtyOne on Apr 20, 2010 1:43 PM EDT reply actions  

I pegged us for Hansboro last year

If Cole Aldridge is there at 10, Bird is taking him.

1000000% guaranteed.

Not even meaning it as a joke. Just the fact that Larry Bird views athleticism as a 5th tier attribute in the players he covets.

" Tell me something Steve, How does a guy from Puerto Rico loose a ball in the Sun? "

by aaronb on Apr 20, 2010 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nope,

I think that’s too predictable. I’m thinking something along a Shawne Williams style pick. I’m guessing Daniel Orton will be the pick.

by ThirtyOne on Apr 20, 2010 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Orton has way too much athletic upside

It’s got to be a 4 year college guy that isn’t really an NBA prospect.

Robby Hummel
Luke Harangody
Matt Bouldin
A guy from Butler
The White guy from Nevada
Any Asshole from Duke

" Tell me something Steve, How does a guy from Puerto Rico loose a ball in the Sun? "

by aaronb on Apr 20, 2010 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Damn, that made me laugh.

by Sparhawk on Apr 21, 2010 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

That made me laugh too…. then it made me cry lol. I think Patrick Patterson’s actually gonna be our pick though. Upperclassmen, role player, who can shoot the 3? He’s a lock for us.

by B-Huse on Apr 21, 2010 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

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