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EVAN!

[From the FanPosts, I love it when ThirtyOne gets excited, plus he offers a good chance to get some other thoughts on the top talent in the draft. - TL]


It's official I now want Evan Turner, even if we get the #1 pick.  That end of the game shot he hit today was clutch.  I think we've found the guy who can help turn this team around.  Sorry John Wall, but I think you're number two these days.  I appreciate your natural point guard skills but I don't think there's any way Evan Turner isn't a future NBA all-star.

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So who is your top pick if dreams come true and the Pacers land the top slot?
Evan Turner
45 votes
John Wall
77 votes
Other
3 votes

125 votes | Poll has closed

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can't go that far yet

but that shot was insane for the game. Keep hearing rumblings that ET wants to stay for his senior year even though it makes no sense whatsoever. That would kill me if the Pacers popped up in the top 2 slots and Turner went back to school.

by Tom Lewis on Mar 12, 2010 3:20 PM EST reply actions  

worst possible outcome

"If you don't [draft me], I promise you I'll come back and kick your ass for the next 15 years."

by psvirsky on Mar 12, 2010 5:31 PM EST up reply actions  

That’s what I’m talking about here, a killer instinct. He’s someone that I think hates losing and wants to win at all costs. Plus with a built in name like “The Villain” how does he not become a big time player.

I really can’t believe Wall is considered a lock as #1, Turner can rebound, pass, and score. And if he can play the point, which I think he can, we probably have the next Jason Kidd.

by ThirtyOne on Mar 12, 2010 3:59 PM EST reply actions  

I love Evan Turner’s game, but the Pacers need a legit point, and I don’t know how they could pass on Wall.

But getting a top 2 pick probably isn’t going to happen.

by Sparhawk on Mar 12, 2010 4:10 PM EST reply actions  

What do we have right now, the fourth worst record. We’ll have like a 20% chance of getting the 1 or 2 pick. We can do it.

by ThirtyOne on Mar 12, 2010 4:14 PM EST up reply actions  

This a win-win

As long as Darko-loving Joe Dumars is not holding one of the top 2 picks, both teams will come away with a franchise-type player. Remind me of this as I become unreasonable about either Wall or Turner as we get closer to the Lottery/Draft

Cards, Colts, and Pacers - Baseball, football, and basketball or gambling, guns, and old cars?

by JPBarnett on Mar 12, 2010 4:38 PM EST reply actions  

Would I love to get Turner? Yes…. but more then Wall….. that’s tough. I don’t think you can go wrong with either but Wall has the ability to be a top 5 player in this league. What’s nice about Turner is though he can play 3 spots (PG,SG,SF)…. on a rebuilding team that’s a huge help in case some other player flourished then you can just move Evan to another spot. I like Turner at point though…. Impossible for other guards to shoot over, can see over opposing guards on offense, he’s every sense of a leader, and on offense he can just back down opposing PG’s.

by B-Huse on Mar 12, 2010 4:40 PM EST reply actions  

great shot

but…that might not have been a good call by the refs. the clock didn’t start when it should have

Harper's on Miller, McKey, gets in to Miller for the win and...

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by wonillionaire on Mar 12, 2010 4:40 PM EST reply actions  

can't vote

…this is why I’m quietly hoping for the 2nd pick. If we were to pick first I’d say we have to take Wall, which would thrill me. Personally however, I don’t care for “scoring” point guards. I want my 2 guard to be the greater offensive threat. Just a preference.

by ottoprice13 on Mar 12, 2010 5:17 PM EST reply actions  

I agree

that’s where we went wrong with Ford. A pure point guard is what this team needs. Leave the scoring to Granger, Hibbert, the 2 guard, etc………..

by IndyDan on Mar 12, 2010 5:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Look. There's no "wrong" choice. But there is a right one.

Turner is closest to Brandon Roy. A guy who is a big, versatile point-forward type. Both have a history of injury concerns. Turner is a little better from the all-around standpoint, but Roy is a better shooter.

Wall is more like a true PG version of Dwayne Wade. They’re explosive athletes, who when there team needs it can basically score at will. Wade is certainly a better scorer, but Wall has the tool of the great PGs – he can make his team a lot better even without scoring.

Personally, I’d take Wall for 3 reasons:

1. His athleticism is on a higher level than Turner’s and that matters so much in the NBA game.

2. Wall is almost two full years younger than Turner. Evan didn’t arrive at Ohio St. as a Top 2 pick. He used these 3 years to grow into that. Wall did arrive at Kentucky that way. What is he gonna be in 2 more years? Scary.

3. Even though he’s bounced back miraculously well, Turner did BREAK HIS BACK this year. Maybe that doesn’t matter now, but it might cut a year or two off the latter half of his career.

by SethGrandpa on Mar 12, 2010 6:17 PM EST reply actions  

Great points

Yeah, the injury is a little concerning, but then again Granger fell to us because of injury concerns, and DeJaun Blair fell to the Spurs because of injury concerns, so I take that with a grain of salt. But a great point about Wall being a freshman(and thus younger, and more upside than Turner). Contrast that with Turner’s versatility. Also Wall is on a star-studded Kentucky team along with DeMarcus Cousins and Pattrick Patterson, so his stats might not be as impressive as it would be if he was the centerpiece, like Turner is at Ohio State.

by Gary D on Mar 13, 2010 5:25 AM EST up reply actions  

Wall

Chad Ford tweeted it best tonight: “John Wall answered back to Evan Turner in a big way for Kentucky. He was spectacular. Turner best college player. Wall the best pro.” Either pick would be fantastic for the Pacers, but if we got the No. 1, we need to go with Wall. He’s going to filthy in the NBA.

Indy Cornrows

by spstevenson on Mar 12, 2010 7:24 PM EST reply actions  

i want wall way more than turner

by dbcb on Mar 12, 2010 8:31 PM EST reply actions  

Honestly...

I’m becoming more excited about Turner than Wall, but Wall’s the #1 pick for a reason. He has what’s going to be a surefire transition into the league. I don’t think we risk passing on that should the impossible become possible. No way we take Turner over Wall at #1 though. If we have #1 and still want to end up with Turner, we take Wall and trade him for Turner and some premiums (picks? talent?).

by Nathan S. on Mar 12, 2010 8:58 PM EST reply actions  

The real question?

Who will be the 23 or 24 year old college Senior that Larry Bird actually drafts?

" Tell me something Steve, How does a guy from Puerto Rico loose a ball in the Sun? "

by aaronb on Mar 13, 2010 11:19 AM EST reply actions  

Who will be the 23 or 24 year old college Senior that Bird actually drafts.

" Tell me something Steve, How does a guy from Puerto Rico loose a ball in the Sun? "

by aaronb on Mar 13, 2010 11:26 AM EST reply actions  

we wont....

get him. or john wall… we dont suck enough =(

~SHaFF!~

by SHaFF87 on Mar 15, 2010 12:20 AM EDT reply actions  

Pat Patterson is the guy for Larry

Evan Turner is a future MVP

Danny wants John Wall ?? hasn’t he already been watching poor team management this year with our existing pgs

by Man of Pace on Mar 15, 2010 7:55 PM EDT reply actions  

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