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We Need Defense

In thinking about Levy2725's post about ways to go about changing the Pacers in a more reasonable way other than "blowing up the team" or "getting lucky" in the draft, a few thoughts came to mind.

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Jim O'Brien is an offensive-minded, shoot the 3 to set up the post, get as many attempts as possible kind of a coach.  He's all about fast play.  Under O'Brien, the Pacers have consistently been in the top of the league in offensive pace.  This season, they are getting more attempts at shots than all but one team (Golden State) in the league at exactly 100 attempts per game.  However, their offensive efficiency (number of points scored per 100 possessions) is near the bottom of the league (28 of 30).  They get off more shots but aren't converting them.  What that says is they are taking way too many ill-advised (low %) shots (i.e. they aren't making wise decisions).

Of the top 10 teams in pace (Golden State, Indiana, Phoenix, Minnesota, Denver, Sacramento, LA Lakers, New York, Memphis, and Toronto), only four of them are current playoff teams.  On the contrary, of the bottom 10 teams in pace (Portland, Detroit, Miami, Cleveland, Charlotte, Atlanta, San Antonio, Philadelphia, Boston, and Dallas), seven of them are current playoff teams.

So, does that mean we need more players who take smarter shots, or do we need a coach who puts the already-intelligent players on the Pacers' roster in more successful situations?  Only Bird and Morway can answer that question.

Speaking of defense: If I recall, the Pacers' number one goal over the off season was to focus on defense.  They signed Dahntay Jones and Earl Watson for this very reason.  Yet, I don't see anything close to an improvement.  Last season, they gave up 106 points per game.  This season, they've "improved" by only giving up 104 points per game.  That doesn't show improvement.

Is it fair to ask a team to push the tempo on offense, but then stop an opponent from scoring on defense?  It doesn't seem realistic to ask the team to be successful at both.  The only way this is possible is if a team has a superstar.  The teams at the top of the league in pace who are still playoff teams (mentioned above), all have one thing in common: they have an elite NBA player (Phoenix - Amare Stoudemire, Denver - Carmelo Anthony, LA Lakers - Kobe Bryant, Toronto - Chris Bosh).  They are exceptions.  They can get away with pushing the pace when they have elite talent.  The Pacer do not.

So, we have to ask ourselves: Shouldn't a team without a superstar focus more on playing defense?  The Pacers can fix that in three ways: through the draft, through smart trades, and coaching.  The easiest thing to control is coaching.  Should the Pacers find the right defensive-minded coach (Avery Johnson), it would begin the process of changing this team from a high-paced, shoot quick team that has shown more inconsistencies than a Kindergarten debate team into a defense-first team.  They have the players on this team who have shown an ability to score.  That's not the problem.  When the Pacers were at their best was when they were dedicated to defense.

After all, doesn't the cliche go: defense wins championships!

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Nash is more an elite player than Amare, and both are terrible on D.

I blame the defense more on the coach than the players (though the team clearly has guys who are hopeless on that end).

How about this name for a potential coach: Tom Thibodeau. The Celtics defensive guru has been highly touted for years. I’d love to seem him on the Pacers bench.

by SethGrandpa on Feb 2, 2010 11:49 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

we are 18th in defensive efficiency this year

we are 27th in offensive efficiency…

its our offense that is absolutely awful. our defense is just bad

by dbcb on Feb 3, 2010 5:15 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

When you have the record we do…. everything’s bad. Our offensive efficiency is so damn terrible because we jack up three’s constantly and our defense is bad cause we have Troy Murphy down low who is no help to Hibby. Let’s get our roster in that won those 5 games in a row…. We played some good D in that stretch….

by B-Huse on Feb 3, 2010 11:51 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

But don’t you think with a slowed-down offense, the efficiency will improve? The Pacers are so trigger-happy that they lack any semblance of efficiency on offense.

The FAULK

by incredibleFAULK on Feb 3, 2010 8:46 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Oh god yes. Slowing down our offense and giving the ball down low to Hibbert would help our offensive efficiency immensely. Even if Roy were not to take more shots he may be the best passer on the whole team. He is starting to become a beast down low and brings double teams, then he kicks the ball out so well. That’s why I think if we got rid of O’Brien and brought TJ back things would really work out. If TJ wasn’t in this system he wouldn’t be forced to take three’s which are just not his strength. I mean say what you want about him but he is SOOOO quick and with the right coaching his drives to the basket can open up shots for guys like Hibbert and Danny. I mean any person who is good at any sport knows that you don’t play the game, you play the other team. Hibbert’s passing and low-post game, TJ’s speed and ability to get to the basket, and Danny’s plain god given talent should be the way we are beating teams. Yet TJ’s not even playing, we’re in a running offense which doesn’t help Roy, and O’Brien just wants Danny to live outside the 3 point line when he’s faster, taller, and stronger than his opponent. I wanna say how stupid O’Brien must be but…. I’d just be repeating myself…

by B-Huse on Feb 3, 2010 9:46 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I can think of a few additonal needs...

Management
Coach
Trades

Opportunity is missed by most people because it comes dressed in overalls and looks like work.
-Thomas Edison

by W.Diesel on Feb 3, 2010 1:04 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

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by captain flitzy on Feb 3, 2010 3:51 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

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by Tom Lewis on Feb 3, 2010 4:17 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

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by captain flitzy on Feb 3, 2010 5:03 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

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