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Pacers Talks With Cavaliers, Kings Appear Quiet With NBA Trade Deadline Looming

On the eve of the NBA trading deadline, which hits at 3:00PM EST tomorrow afternoon, the trade rumors continue chugging along to the finish line.

The rumors involving the Indiana Pacers in general and Troy Murphy in particular have become faint, though. Today's links have plenty of updates but include scarce mention of the Pacers.

Cleveland appears focused on Amare Stoudemire and then Antawn Jamison for their power forward needs. Other reports have Corey Maggette and the third choice for the Cavs as a last resort should a deal for either Stoudemire or Jamison fail to materialize.

There are no updates out of Sacramento on their interest in Troy Murphy and Milwaukee has pulled away from negotiation, apparently over the Pacers refusal to take on Charlie Bell's contract which has two years remaining after this season. I imagine, there's a similar story in negotiations with the Kings and Beno Udrih's contract which is more onerous than Bell's with three  more years and about twice the money.

As much as I'd like to see a trade to shake things up, if the net result isn't an expiring contract, draft pick or cheap young talent then forget it. Take those expiring contracts into the summer or next season and see what happens. As much as I'd like to think otherwise, there is no quick fix coming unless the Cavs or Kings have a change of heart.

Of course, trades usually emerge from the Pacers after a period of silence when nothing appears to be brewing. With another day to go, there's still plenty of time for some trade noise.

After the jump, plenty of links about the Spus visit tonight and trade deadline chatter.

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if milwaukee wants us to take bell and the kings beno… then just keep murphy, keep losing, and use the expiring contracts next year. there is no point in taking bad contracts back when the murphy’s contract will be even more valuable next year.

+ play the young guys and fire JOB and tell bird to go back to french lick

by dbcb on Feb 17, 2010 9:21 AM EST reply actions  

Damn it dbcb!

Look, French Lick has worked hard to build that town into a nice vacation destination in the midwest. Don’t you go sending Larry Bird down there to those poor people. He would just show up and wreck everything they’ve worked so hard to build. That’s not fair to them. What has French Lick ever done to you?

by ThirtyOne on Feb 17, 2010 10:07 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, I’m starting to think we should just stay put at the deadline. We CANNOT take on longer contracts than what we already have.

by ben.renz on Feb 17, 2010 10:26 AM EST reply actions  

Hmm….I wonder if we could get a late second round pick in exchange for our JOB. That would be the best move Bird has made in years.

by lee s on Feb 17, 2010 11:19 AM EST reply actions  

JOB Trade

Hell, I’d trade JOB for a dirty pair of socks and throw away the socks! Now that"d be a deal!!! :)

by FortWayneKarl on Feb 17, 2010 11:45 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Frankly, I don’t care what kind of player we get as long as it’s an expiring contract so we can dump Murphy’s $!! We already suck, we are already going to suck next year…why not just run it into the ground so we can have more ping pong balls and possibly get lucky with a top 5 pick! Constantly having the 12/13 pick isn’t helping us too much!!

Along the lines with JOB, I hope we fire him after this season! I think the job has more lust to it now since have a good group of young players + quite a few expiring contracts to either make trades next season or once they are off the books….we have more cap more to sign another start. Hopefully that’ll attract a better coach! From my understand, that’s why Stan Van Gundy turned down the job b/c there was no hope for the next couple of seasons (not that I’m a fan of Stan Van, just saying)

by BringbackReggie#31 on Feb 17, 2010 11:31 AM EST reply actions  

i disagree about year

i think if we can get a new coach, a solid top 5 pick who can make an immediate impact and change our style to better fit our players (slow it down so hibby can be more involved anyone?) we can be in the chase for the playoffs next year. and alot of our bad contracts this year will be expiring contracts next year, who will be next years amare that we can go after? anyway, ive been snowed in for 2 weeks and currently this is my glimmer of light that im holding on too…

If Youre not First, Youre Last

by drsuessrunner07 on Feb 17, 2010 11:44 AM EST reply actions  

Bird's Contract...

The single best news for me is that Bird doesn’t have a contract for next year!

by FortWayneKarl on Feb 17, 2010 11:49 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Agreed

" Tell me something Steve, How does a guy from Puerto Rico loose a ball in the Sun? "

by aaronb on Feb 17, 2010 11:49 AM EST up reply actions  

NEXT year*

If Youre not First, Youre Last

by drsuessrunner07 on Feb 17, 2010 11:44 AM EST reply actions  

Since I read the Wells report

about the Pacers possibly standing pat, I had pretty much given up on making a move. I figure we’ll stay what we are through the year and try again at moving those contracts for actual talent next year. We can be buyers next year regardless of how the year is going to that point (18-34 at this point next year again?). I still think cap room for free agency is our enemy more than our friend, so moving these guys for talent we can keep around, I’m a bigger fan of that idea.

by Nathan S. on Feb 17, 2010 3:50 PM EST reply actions  

I have to agree

although I’m pretty bi-polar when it comes to this issue. One second, I say just open up the space. Then next minute I’m looking at the proposed Z+J. Moon + 30th pick for Jamison + James and saying, we need to at least get decent youngs or picks for our expirings/near expirings. I think Tom Petty said it best: “The waiting is the hardest part.” But I guess we’ll have to wait if we are going to run down the dream (get it?!?!?).

by TheHawk5 on Feb 17, 2010 4:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Gotta love the Tom Petty shout-out. Plus it is probably smart that we wait to get rid of our contracts later when they are their final year… we’ll get more. It’s a battle between pride and the greater good. That’s why we’re all bi-polar about this.

by B-Huse on Feb 17, 2010 4:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Dear people in Indiana,

If we do nothing (or something horrific) by the time the trade deadline passes, I’m calling on you to storm Conseco with pitchforks and torches to overthrow the Bird regime. That is all.

Yours,
Seth

by SethGrandpa on Feb 17, 2010 4:35 PM EST reply actions  

But what if they have no other choice? I mean Bird and David can’t make them trade. If there’s only crap on the table they have to do nothing.

by B-Huse on Feb 17, 2010 4:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Nope. I've reached my irrational peak.

JUST DO IT!!! THIRST FOR BLOOD!!!!! AGHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by SethGrandpa on Feb 17, 2010 4:56 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm with you,

but only if we do something horrific. If we do nothing, I will do the same.

by TheHawk5 on Feb 17, 2010 4:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Doing nothing does not equal doing something horrific. Doing nothing would still be a good thing. Taking any and I mean ANY salary would be a bad thing, very bad.

by Drakul on Feb 17, 2010 5:03 PM EST up reply actions  

not to mention our schedule was light in the first half and is pretty intense in the second half. With our current team, that just means more losses and potentially a higher pick.

If no trades come, the Pacers need to play the young guys more minutes while giving Granger a bit more rest. Let’s see AJ get about 15 minutes a night would be nice. Playing guys that aren’t part of the future just doesn’t make a heck of a lot of sense to me.

by Sparhawk on Feb 17, 2010 6:22 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m 99% sure now that no deals will be made involving the Pacers. Just not sure how it’s al going to play out next year as I have a feeling expirings won’t have the same value as they have had in years past.

by Sparhawk on Feb 17, 2010 6:18 PM EST reply actions  

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