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IC Cold Links: Trade Talks Continue With Pacers Involved; All-Star Weekend Begins

The latest trade rumors swirling around the NBA seem to always have Troy Murphy involved in some capacity. That hasn't ended with the All-Star Weekend upon us.

As goodlucksaturday noted in his fanpost this morning, the Cavaliers are still pushing for talks involving the Pacers power forward, but it's apparently taken a backseat to conversations involving Amar'e Stoudemire. According to the Cleveland Plain-Dealer, over the past few days the Cavs have had advanced talks with the Suns about Stoudemire. That doesn't mean the Cavs are neglecting their other targets. There are still long-term-target forwards Antawn Jamison and Murphy, but the Cavs are focusing on Stoudemire.

Brian Windhorst wrote, "The Cavs are believed to still have talks open with the Pacers for Murphy and the Wizards for Jamison, plus options for three-team deals. But sources indicated the Stoudemire talks were the most advanced."

Just like the Pacers, the Suns are apparently pulling strong for J.J. Hickson to be involved in any type of trade with the Cavs. Phoenix is suggested to have a leg up on the competition due to Cavs GM Danny Ferry and Suns GM Steve Kerr having a strong, long relationship that also brought together the Shaq deal this summer. The Plain-Dealer also noted that Jason Richardson is being added to the trade talks with hopes of dragging a third team into the mix.

More trade talks after the jump, along with some links from the first night of All-Star Weekend.

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Blair

made me sick watching that last night. how amazing would it have been if he woulda been doing that in a pacers jersey. course, he woulda had some ridiculous cursed injury if he was in indiana. good luck to him.

by blueandgold24 on Feb 13, 2010 4:36 PM EST reply actions  

Wizards

Just moved Butler to Dallas. Wonder how that affects their plans regarding Jamison, if that might remove them from the picture with Cleveland.

by Nathan S. on Feb 13, 2010 7:54 PM EST reply actions  

IF.....

we miss out on dumping Murphy because of this stupid HICKSON MUST BE IN clause, I know I speak for alot of people when I say I’ll be more than pissed. I am on the Hickson, side, I think he is a great piece to have and is a good young talent, but don’t let him be the dealbreaker in getting rid of T-Murder!

by captain flitzy on Feb 13, 2010 9:33 PM EST reply actions  

Agreed

I’d be willing to get an expiring contract and two 2nd rounders. The added minutes to develop McRoberts, Psycho T, Hibbert and Solo make the lesser haul worth it IMHO.

If we are suposedly rebuilding. Then at some point you need to start playing the kids. How can you evaluate them if you don’t play them?

" Tell me something Steve, How does a guy from Puerto Rico loose a ball in the Sun? "

by aaronb on Feb 13, 2010 11:10 PM EST up reply actions  

on the other hand...

I don’t see a huge problem in the “Hickson clause”. We need to work the Murphy trade for all it’s worth simply because he’s our strongest asset on the block.
1. Totally agree getting rid of his salary would be nice, but only for cap space. The idea that we become serious players in the soon to come free agent market is as farfetched as a lot of the hype already surrounding it. In my opinion, a move mostly driven by clearing cap space is more in the interests of Conseco Fieldhouse, than a championship.
2. Cleveland’s 1st round pick this year won’t be that valuable, and 2nd rounders are largely worthless in the NBA. A nice draft pick out of Murphy could be the greatest payoff of all, no need to settle for less in that department. In fact that would be priority #1 for me.
3. While I think we should have traded Foster before, there is the possibility Murphy becomes a greater asset around draft time as opposed to now.

by ottoprice13 on Feb 14, 2010 12:55 AM EST up reply actions  

One of the

Biggest misconceptions about having cap space is that you can lure big free agents. Teams like Memphis and Seattle/Okc have used their cap space to help other teams broker trades, and have picked up numerous draft picks and assets for their trouble. A good GM could accelerate the rebuilding process by doing that in Indianapolis.

" Tell me something Steve, How does a guy from Puerto Rico loose a ball in the Sun? "

by aaronb on Feb 14, 2010 1:09 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm agreeing with this

We’re not luring anyone here for a good price. We need picks and talent back for our players. That’s how we have to build a contender, not by going fishing in free agency. Losing Murph for cap space is nice, and I’m for doing that, but I don’t want to see us go all Detroit with our cap space and overpay for Ben Gordon type talent. Which is what we will almost have to do.

by Nathan S. on Feb 14, 2010 9:01 AM EST up reply actions  

yeah i am all for getting somethign back… but cap relief and just getting rid of the dude should be number one.

by dbcb on Feb 13, 2010 11:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Forget Hickson...

Let Hickson go, if it’s a deal-breaker. Teams are high on Murph right now and we need to sell him when teams are high on him. Who knows next year if he suffers an injury and is out for the season? I’d be happy with Cleveland’s first rounder this year(which won’t be that great) and Cleveland’s first rounder next year(a lottery pick after LeBron James leaves town). Or if they won’t give us that then Cleveland’s second rounder this year(After about pick 20 there’s a significant drop-off in talent in my opinion – Cleveland’s first rounder will be after pick 20, so we can settle for a second rounder), and Cleveland’s first rounder next year(cross your fingers that it’s a lottery pick).

by Gary D on Feb 14, 2010 3:54 PM EST reply actions  

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