I just can't stand it anymore. I've watched the Pacers since the 70's. They look pathetic. They are coached pathetically. They aren't playing with any confidence, any leadership, any resemblance of a team. They are a team in flux! They need help, and they need it now. I say if Bird isnt' going to do anything to help this team, and now, then get rid of him too, along with JOB. They just arent' any fun to watch anymore. I really, truly believe that JOB has killed any kind of hope for this team. No, he's not the one on the floor, but he's killed their Spirit. You can see it. It gets worse each and every time they play. They have regressed so much since the first of the year.