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I am a Troy Murphy fan. Be one of the first to admit it. A big man who shoots the 3. Sounds a lot like one of my favorite players named Dirk. Not to mention, boy can rebound. Gets 9 per game..adding 13 points and a +19.12 efficency rating. Last year averaged a double double with 14 points and close to 12 rebounds per game. Not to mention the 45% he shot from 3 last season. He is the The only player in NBA history to rank among the league's top five in both rebounding average and 3-pt field goal percentage, he was second in rebounding with a team single season record 11.8 rpg and he was third with a mark of 45.0 percent from beyond the 3-pt line. But at what cost? $11.05 million this year and $11.97 next year? Hefty contract for a 29 year old. He still has good years left I don't doubt that. But look at this fact...this season the Pacers are 7-3 without Murphy in the lineup and a hefty 4-21 with him. In the last five games without Murphy the Pacers help opponents to a 91.2 average. In the last five with him, 107.2. Murph does hustle though and gives it his all. But is he a defensive liability? (Disclaimer on this next stat; I took it using the "suggestive power forward" in any given game, does not mean he was directly matched up against that person most of the game) Starting opponents power forwards are averaging  17.5 points on the Pacers when he is playing. Without him is 14.2. Of course this doesn't take into account the level of contribution from a player on a given night. He is also the worst on the team in terms of plus minus with -227. Personally if any team like the Cavaliers want Murphy I say get what you can in return for him like a JJ Hickson and a draft pick and move on with that type of money off the books and give the young guys like McRoberts and Hansbrough who have fared very well this season in minutes played. It should also be noted that Murphy has had a negative impact on the dominance that could be Roy Hibbert. When you look at Roy point production with Murph in the lineup, Roy is averaging 8.6 points per game and without him is averaging 14.8 points per game. Same thing when you look at the rebounding averages. With Murph "Big Boy Roy" grabs 4.8 boards per game. Without him he becomes "Hungry Hungry Hibbert" and grabs 7.9.

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Should the Pacers try and trade Troy Murphy?
Yes
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Only if they get a "solid" player in draft pick in return
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He is a pure stat player. You see the box score and think “WOW, Murphy with a huge double double!”

You watch the game and you are like “WTF Murph guard someone!”

I would Murph for a bag of basketballs lol. He would be additon by subtraction, both his contract going away and his play on the court.

Seems like a good guy… but he should be someone who can comeoff the bench and give you a few 3’s and then back to th ebench he goes

by dbcb on Jan 9, 2010 10:49 AM EST reply actions  

I agree Murph is killing our defense. A slower guy like Hibbert needs an athlete next to him and Troy isn’t. Our offense may work better but our defense is terrible when Roy gets in foul trouble cause he has to pick up Murph’s slack.

by B-Huse on Jan 9, 2010 1:56 PM EST reply actions  

Oh we were also without him during our 5 game win-streak when Roy was playing possessed.

by B-Huse on Jan 9, 2010 1:57 PM EST reply actions  

We need to trade Murph to Cleveland for Shaq’s expiring (to be bought out) and J.J. Hickson. They can sign Shaq back right afterwards if they like. They have an extra roster spot. We would likely also need to throw in Foster and either Diener or a draft pick to make it work financially.

by indy62 on Jan 9, 2010 2:38 PM EST reply actions  

I have to think the Pacers are trying to trade him

It’s just that there is probably not much out there in the way of returns. I think it’s safe to say everyone minus Danny and Roy, maybe Rush and AJ, is actively being shopped every day. There are either no takers or teams are’t desperate enough yet to take on some of these contracts. 3-4 years ago, we could have unloaded these contracts, but with the way the market is now, a team has to either need Murph, Duns, or TJ to make a championship run, or are looking to unload similar bad contracts. Either way this is a crap shoot…

by jantz101 on Jan 9, 2010 3:03 PM EST reply actions  

Murphy is killing our defense, and by playing him he’ll guarantee the Pacers a top 5 pick. Keep playing the dude.

Anyhow, he’ll be worth more as an expiring contract next year.

by Sparhawk on Jan 9, 2010 7:14 PM EST reply actions  

I think you guys overvalue Troy a bit.

It’d be worth it just to trade him to the Cavs straight up for Big Z just to get his contract off the books. I don’t see any way he’s not going to bring in that expiring contract plus Hickson plus a pick. The expiring contract alone is valuable enough and Clevland isn’t exactly brimming with young guys like JJ. Maybe Big Z and a 2nd round pick. I’d be 100% on board with that.

by SethGrandpa on Jan 10, 2010 2:39 AM EST reply actions  

I would take 10 million dollars worth of basketballs justo rid ourselves of him and his contract.

by dbcb on Jan 10, 2010 11:00 AM EST up reply actions  

Great opportunity for the Pacers

Somebody wants Troy Murphy? You gotta make this happen LB!!! Murph to the Cavs for big Z’s expiring contract and Hickson. Done. Check the box. Sign the papers. Are you kidding me? You could use Hickson to push Hansborough a little at the PF position and then let him go after the season. The key is getting this money off of the books.

by davis3217 on Jan 11, 2010 4:20 PM EST reply actions  

let hickson push hansbrough and let him go? he is already 2x trhe player hansbrough will ever be…

by dbcb on Jan 11, 2010 5:59 PM EST up reply actions  

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