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Pacers Lineups Almost As Inconsistent As Their Play

I love watching the NBA and especially the Pacers. Even when things aren't going well there's always something to learn about the game, the team or an individual player. The good and the bad can be equally intriguing.

But I have to say, during the second quarter of the Orlando game on top of the slop I took in the night before from Miami, for the first time I can remember I asked myself a simple question: Why am I watching this?

I think it was right after a failed alley oop by the Pacers when Solomon Jones was almost inadvertently undercut by a teammate after the two collided just as Solo left the floor. Of course, the pass bounced wildly to the Magic. Jason Williams took it the other way and with plenty of Pacers back on defense, none made the effort to stop the ball allowing Williams to cruise in for an open layup. Basic, glaring breakdowns in effort along with physical and mental execution.

Of course, I continued to watch and there was some good and more bad from that point on which further highlighted the inconsistent effort and execution the Pacers show, not just from game-to-game but sometimes quarter-to-quarter.

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The talent level isn't enough to overcome their lack of cohesion as a unit and certainly not enough to withstand poor effort and execution. Consider the fact that the team has used more starting lineups (16) than it has wins (14). Yet, the second unit is often more productive. That just illuminates the lack of NBA-caliber starters on the roster right now. There's a solid cast of role players or 6th, 7th, 8th and 9th men off the bench, with options available for any circumstance. But against a starting unit on a top 15 team, the Pacers' lead five (regardless of combination) requires a strong, unified effort to compete. Most nights, that ain't happening.

Jim O'Brien continues searching as he considers starting a small lineup with Danny Granger at the power forward spot and likely, Troy Murphy at center. This type of lineup has been successful at digging the Pacers out of deep holes so far this season, but for some reason hasn't been used to try to avoid getting in the big hole in the first place.

So, bring on lineup #17 and see what happens. I can't get any worse and who knows, it might just level out the wildly inconsistent play of the Pacers and at the same time keep me from asking myself questions.

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You are giving JOB too much credit

The reason the bench does better than the starters or a new starting line up seems to work for a game or two is because JOB’s coaching hasn’t “caught up” to ruin it yet!

by FortWayneKarl on Jan 21, 2010 10:51 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

This changing-lineups thing is the reason we’re sitting at 14 wins. A new lineup won’t help. Simply put: JOB is an idiot and I’m losing respect for Bird by the day. Ridiculous.

by ben.renz on Jan 21, 2010 11:25 PM EST reply actions  

Sweet

So the solution is to have Granger/Murphy get beaten up by consistently bigger opponents? Gotta agree the previous two posters – quit playing musical chairs already! Better yet, why does JOB continue to get a free pass? If yer switching lineups so often, is it because you’re grasping at straws as you’ve lost almost every player?

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by RedHopeful on Jan 22, 2010 12:12 AM EST reply actions  

Gotta agree....

with ben.renz and Redhopeful

Opportunity is missed by most people because it comes dressed in overalls and looks like work.
-Thomas Edison

by W.Diesel on Jan 22, 2010 9:05 AM EST reply actions  

In fairness (my favorite phrase)

Injuries have force the majority of those lineup changes.

As for this change, if it happens, the lineup has had the most success. My question is: why hasn’t this lineup started earlier?

by Tom Lewis on Jan 22, 2010 9:17 AM EST reply actions  

That's fine

but the obvious choice at C is Hibbert. Someone just HAS to anchor the paint defensively (even if it is for 20 minutes of the game).

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by RedHopeful on Jan 22, 2010 6:41 PM EST up reply actions  

I just want to see good Indiana basketball. Built on top notch fundamentals and good movement on offense and plenty of ball movement and playing some good D. Say what you will about the Spurs that they might be boring, but flashiness doesn’t win championships. Wish the Pacers could get a coach who thinks like Greg Pop.

You would think this Pacers squad should be fundamentally sound and be smart enough to create space and have good ball movement. I think they are capable of it, but it looks to me that they’ve just tuned a deaf ear to the coach.

I don’t think it’s coincidence that this team plays better w/out Murphy….

by Sparhawk on Jan 22, 2010 9:56 AM EST reply actions  

just play hard guys!

whether our run and gun is a bad system, JOB is a bad coach or that we’re simply outmanned talentwise every night one thing I know we should be able to do is PLAY HARD. I don’t mind losing, but if we’re losing I want to see our boys go down swinging every game and just not sit there and take it like a…….well you know what I mean. Win or lose just play hard every possession, I don’t mind supporting a losing team but I want to make sure we’re losing the right way by still giving our best effort every night.

If Youre not First, Youre Last

by drsuessrunner07 on Jan 22, 2010 11:39 AM EST reply actions  

Perfect

The lack of effort kills me. All those uncontested layups? That just shouldn’t happen. Have a little pride. And it wouldn’t hurt to look like you give a crap.

by TheHawk5 on Jan 22, 2010 12:12 PM EST up reply actions  

i totally agree with this

i am more frustrated at their effort than the losing. as soon as their shots are not falling, they just shrugs their shoulders and give up on both ends of the court. i was at the miami game behind their bench, watching them get destroyed- not a single emotion all game. i want to see granger blow up, get this team on their toes, take the losing personally, and be a leader. watch these video on bird:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vHEWOqdyTg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6iFhNi9t4L4&feature=related

how can one of the all time competitors, of ANY sport, put a team of such mentally weak players together? no swagger. no killer drive. bird was such a badass, i wish he would get players that emulated him, at least in regards to personality-

by BenD on Jan 22, 2010 12:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Unfortunately...

Unfortunately, bad coaching and worse management have beat down the Pacers just as much as the opposition!

by FortWayneKarl on Jan 22, 2010 12:04 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

They play like they know they're not gonna be together long.

Everyone (players included) knows this roster is gonna have a major overhaul within two years. Their play reflects it. I’m not justifying it (it sickens me), but they’re definatley playing like short timers.

Confucious say "He who dives for loose balls need proper fitting athletic cup!"

by Wise Master on Jan 22, 2010 3:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, and all their fans know it too. It’s kind of sad. I don’t see anyone outside of Granger and Roy being here very long. And neither does anyone else.

by ben.renz on Jan 22, 2010 3:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Tom… have the players tuned JOB out yet?

by dbcb on Jan 22, 2010 12:35 PM EST reply actions  

Probably a little

but this group just needs to be broken up regardless. Not a good mix.

by Tom Lewis on Jan 23, 2010 9:32 PM EST up reply actions  

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