IC Cold Links: Dunleavy Situation Improves, No Progression In Deal With Celtics
by spstevenson on Aug 5, 2009 10:19 AM EDT
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The Indiana Pacers attempt at a sign-and-trade deal with the Boston Celtics is at a stalemate. Wars have been won and lost quicker than this "deal" which both teams have worked on for more than three weeks. According to Mike Wells, the potential transaction is no closer to completion than when Larry Bird and Danny Ainge conjured up the idea.
Wells reports that the Pacers are decidedly uninterested in the who the Celtics keep offering for Marquis Daniels. Boston has offered several players and the latest is Tony Allen. Both teams have also searched far and wide for a third team to step in and help complete the deal, but none have wanted to touch it with a 10-foot pole. Where is Kevin McHale when you need him?
Despite the extreme lengthening time of the deal, Daniels will still be headed to Boston no matter how long it takes. His return to Indianapolis will occur on Nov. 14 this season. Or at least that's the plan. With the way this deal is going, Daniels might not make it to Boston by April. For more links, check after the jump.
The other Pacers news of today is another update on Mike Dunleavy's return from his knee injury. This time, Adrian Wojnarowski of Yahoo! Sports is reporting that Dunleavy, who made no mention of his recovery in his latest blog post, is having a "remarkable" recovery.
Wojnarowski wrote: "Pacers' Mike Dunleavy has made "remarkable" recovery from knee surgery and source close to him says he could return "very early" in season."
Dunleavy was originally expected to return to the Pacers no earlier than January, but recent reports by the Indianapolis Star suggested he would be back on the hardwood even earlier. I would assume a "very early" return would be a late-November or December comeback.
- Mike Wells dives into the NBA schedule released yesterday and finds that the Pacers will have their defense tested in the first games of the season.
- Wells also wonders if fans are drinking a little too much Kool-aid when thinking about the Pacers' chances next season.
- Former Indiana Pacers player Primoz Brezec is expected to sign with the 76ers.
- If you're wanting to keep tabs on the NBA and the Player's Union negotiations, the two sides just held the first of many collective bargaining talks.
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Who needs Kevin McHale?
Chris Wallace is still out there. And Dunleavy Sr. Although without Mchale and Zeke, it’s a tougher world out there
"If you don't [draft me], I promise you I'll come back and kick your ass for the next 15 years."
by psvirsky on Aug 5, 2009 10:42 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Definitely a valid point
You’d think we’d be able to rope Wallace or Dunleavy into this thing. They are the epitome of bad basketball GM’s.
by spstevenson on Aug 5, 2009 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Chris Wallace
Chris Wallace isn’t nearly as bad as people like to think.
The owner Mike Heisley pulls ALL the strings with the Memphis franchise. Wallace is just a figurehead to explain the moves. Finances dictate EVERY move made in Memphis.
Trust me on that.
" Tell me something Steve, How does a guy from Puerto Rico loose a ball in the Sun? "
by aaronb on Aug 5, 2009 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mike Wells get's on my last nerve ......
Who does he report to @ the star? I would like to lodge an offcial complaint.
by Man of Pace on Aug 5, 2009 11:37 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Not a Big Deal
The Pacers don’t want any players in this trade. I take them at their word that they will
start the season with 14 players. A.J. Price will make 14 ( I would be shocked if they
didn’t sign him).
The Pacers mainly entered into these talks as a favor to Marquise on the basis that if
something could be done that would benefit the franchise, they’d be willing to do it.
Boston wants to do the deal so that they can free up their biennial exception for yet
another player. Marquise obviously wants the deal so he cab sign for more than the
$1.9 million.
So—if the Pacers can take back either a draft pick or cash, along with the attendant
trade exception, they’ll be happy to accommodate Marquise. That’s why Boston needs
to find a team under the cap for a three-way. If such a team can’t be found, the Pacers
will happily move on, now that they’ve signed Earl Watson and Solomon Jones.
I don’t think the Pacers care much about this Boston deal one way or the other.
by fanaticus on Aug 5, 2009 1:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I don’t think the Pacers care much either. But damn, something needs to be done cause I care! haha
If they can’t get the two players everyone wants, then just let Marquis sign for his $1.9mil. Why drag this out? Do the Pacers know something that we don’t? Is Boston holding out on purpose, they seem to be loaded with stars so where are all the rooks going to play? Boston should just trade us one and be done with it.
by Sparhawk on Aug 5, 2009 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is there even anyone from the Celtics that'd be worth looking at?
The only guy who remotely interests me is Billy Walker, but he’s not enough salary coming back to make the sign and trade workable.
I guess I’d do Giddens plus walker, on the assumption that throwing pure numbers at the problem is helpful, but after signing up Dahntay Jones, I don’t see how it makes much sense to even do that.
by Sports2 on Aug 5, 2009 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m pretty sure the Celtics waived Giddens anyway. I’d say trade for Allen if we could get a 1st round draft pick in the deal as well… but the Celtics will have one of the last 5 picks in the first round next year.
Maybe Allen and their 2011 first rounder?
by dwwnd on Aug 5, 2009 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe they will throw in Pierce and Garnett as well?
" Tell me something Steve, How does a guy from Puerto Rico loose a ball in the Sun? "
by aaronb on Aug 6, 2009 12:04 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ooohhh
Another zinger aaron. I understand you are not happy with the Pacer’s course of action this offseason. What would you have done differently? Here is your chance to shine…
by jantz101 on Aug 6, 2009 12:23 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can I answer that too?
1. Ty Lawson (preferably via a protected pick trade the way the Nuggets did). I’d be ok with Hansbrough + Lawson.
2. No Dahntay Jones
3. Since we’d have drafted Lawson, no Earl Watson.
1- Ford, Lawson
2- Rush
3- Granger
4- Murphy, Dunleavy
5- Hibbert, Foster
FAs to pursue:
- Offer Marquis Daniels $3M. Or Hakeem Warrick. Or Ime Udoka (I’d offer the last guy two years).
- Vet minimum guys: Quinton Ross or Keith Bogans or Rodney Carney or Rashad McCants.
by Sports2 on Aug 6, 2009 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I get that
At some point the Pacers need to get a point guard. Lawson could be that point guard that helps a team. It is going to be interesting to see which of the rookies from this so-called poor draft make their mark in the NBA. Maybe Price can be our diamond in the rough.
I do think even if we made the Lawson pick, the front office still would have signed Dahntay. Its obvious they are stressing D this year. I don’t know much about the other guys besides I can’t stand McCants, and like Warrick. He is good energy and offense off the bench.
Good stuff, I think I could have been happy with this course of action too.
by jantz101 on Aug 6, 2009 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Love to
Draft DeJuan Blair
Offer FA contracts to
Rodney Carney
Marcus Williams
Sheldon Williams
Let Daniels leave
Let Jack leave after the Toronto offer sheet
Been willing to listen to trades on any of the vets (i.e. Jeff Foster, Dunleavy, Murphy, Ford. etc)
I wasn’t trying to be snarky or a dick above. It just seemed dumb to think the C’s would dump Ray Allen to “create room” for Marquis F’N Daniels.
It would be like trading Danny Granger to find minutes for Dhantay Jones
" Tell me something Steve, How does a guy from Puerto Rico loose a ball in the Sun? "
by aaronb on Aug 6, 2009 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I did like
The AJ Price 2nd round pick.
Hopefully they let him play 30+ minutes a night in Ft. Wayne this year to develop.
Hopefully McRoberts finds his way up there to get some PT as well.
" Tell me something Steve, How does a guy from Puerto Rico loose a ball in the Sun? "
by aaronb on Aug 6, 2009 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agree with AJ
I was all for Blair too, but am starting to jump on the Hansbrough wagon. I think Tyler will be a better player around the rim, but Blair certainly brings more rebounding with him. I guess time will tell between these two guys also.
I am sad to see Jack go. His D needed work, but I think he is going to be a good (potential great) pg in the league. He has size, strength, can get to the rim, and showed he could hit the game winning shot. I would have tried to find a way to keep him around. Sounds like Ford was on the trading block, it would have been interesting to see what that would have given us in return and freed up money wise…
by jantz101 on Aug 6, 2009 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think dwwnb ment Tony Allen, not Ray…
by jantz101 on Aug 6, 2009 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
My fault then
I saw someone mention Ray Allen for Daniels last week. It just didn’t seem to make any sense.
Gabe Pruitt and Bill Walker would be interesting prospects. But forget any of theat Brian Scal or Tony Allen nonsense. JMHO
" Tell me something Steve, How does a guy from Puerto Rico loose a ball in the Sun? "
by aaronb on Aug 6, 2009 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
sparhawk
because the pacers don’t NEED to get this deal done. So why not just drag it out, not like we are losing anything by waiting. Wait for another team to enter into the fray or just let daniels go for 1.9m and sign another guy they are still looking at.
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by SHaFF87 on Aug 6, 2009 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
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