Marquis Daniels Reportedly Close With Celtics, Possible Sign-And-Trade With Pacers

by Tom Lewis on Jul 17, 2009 9:09 PM EDT Comment 28 comments

Marc Spears reports that Marquis Daniels is involved in a deal to sign with the Boston Celtics which may include a sign-and-trade deal with the Indiana Pacers. Mike Wells confirms that the Pacers are working on a possible sign-and-trade deal to move Quisy to Boston.

Wow, this raises a few questions. After clearing Quisy's $7.5 million off the books why bring back a salary or two that would eat up most of the remaining cap space? Could this be part of a larger deal involving more teams? Which players could be involved from Boston's roster? Why not take the money you'd be getting back in salary and just pay Quisy to stay?

Hmm, remember when Quisy and Larry Bird were seen chatting throughout one of the Pacers' summer league games in Orlando? That transcript would be really helpful right now.

One thing the Celtics have are several players on their roster with one-year (or team option) contracts. According to the report, the Celtics only have $1.9 million to offer Quisy, so if they want to move up to the $3-4 million range they need to make a deal with the Pacers.

According to HoopsHype, players making under $4 million going into their last year include: Brian Scalabrine ($3.4), Eddie House ($2.86), Rajon Rondo ($2.62), Tony Allen($2.5), JR Giddens ($1.02), Gabe Pruitt ($0.82) and Bill Walker ($0.73).

Seems like a treading water move unless the Pacers like one of those young guys in Giddens, Pruitt or Walker. There has to be a better payoff or more pieces to the puzzle if a deal is in the works.

Huge thanks to smg31085 for posting the Spears link in the FanPosts!

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Things are going off the hook tonight

Very interested to hear how this sign-and-trade will go about. I’m really not excited about any of those Celtics players (maybe Tony Allen or Eddie House). You’re right though, this better be good if they’re bringing on more contracts when they don’t need them. Should be fun seeing this play out.

by spstevenson on Jul 17, 2009 9:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

interesting

I go out for a couple beers and I come back to Earl Watson and a possible Quisy sign and trade? Geeze! I spend entirely way too much time on this site, checking all the time for new stuff and seeing the same old posts, and then this happens.

Maybe we’re getting Rondo. Right? RIGHT??? Okay that’s not it. I also don’t love any of the guys, House might be my favorite as he can fit a very specific niche for a contender, but we don’t need that niche right now.

"If you don't [draft me], I promise you I'll come back and kick your ass for the next 15 years."

by psvirsky on Jul 17, 2009 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Things that should be researched before sign and trade: Does Tony Allen have a hit out on him in Indy?

by jantz101 on Jul 17, 2009 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Walker may be nice. He has got major potential. If he doesn’t work out, we probably weren’t going to keep Marquis anyways. Seems pretty low risk, high reward to me.

All aboard the Jahvid Best rickshaw!

by rollonubears on Jul 17, 2009 9:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Walker is talented, seems like he has character issues though. Don’t know why I say that, just never liked him.

by jantz101 on Jul 17, 2009 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

C's fan here.

Walker has had no issues at all with the Celtics. He also didn’t get any playing time. But I also don’t see him being shipped out. It may be either Scalabrine or Tony Allen + Giddens. Pruitt is a PG, so I think you don’t need another. But this sign-and-trade only makes sense for you if you are interested in something, and I remind reading that Bird has always liked Tony Allen.

by P2 on Jul 18, 2009 8:01 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

overall

I’d rather just let Quisy go than get one of these guys, but I wouldn’t complain. If one worked out, we could get lucky. And with one year left on their deals, that helps the deal for sure. Remember, a while back, Joe Johnson was one of these random young Celtics with potential that no one thought would become anything. A fan can dream, right?

"If you don't [draft me], I promise you I'll come back and kick your ass for the next 15 years."

by psvirsky on Jul 17, 2009 9:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Decision on s-n-t not until next week

according to wells tweet.

Indy Cornrows

by Tom Lewis on Jul 17, 2009 10:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

from the boston perspective:

we have been telling for a legit wing to back up paul pierce. most fans feel like walker is very raw and very far from impacting a team chasing a championship. we also would trade you tony allen for a rack of used balls and if there is a sign and trade we are PRAYING it involves tony allen. obviously it would be nice if daniels was able to just walk.

my gut tells me if it is a sign and trade it will involve scalabrine and his 3.4 mil expiring contract. i prefer keeping scal around but we need a decent wing ASAP.

i tend to think a sign and trade is going to involve a combo of scal, pruitt and walker.

by celticinorlando on Jul 17, 2009 10:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Scalabrine can't come here, he's white.

by Gwen on Jul 17, 2009 11:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I was thinking EXACTLY the same thing. If we got Scalabrine, anyone who thinks Larry Bird is a racist will suffer from what is referred to in the medical community as: ‘Random head explosion’. They simply would not be able to take it.

All aboard the Jahvid Best rickshaw!

by rollonubears on Jul 18, 2009 1:56 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I just came up with the greatest idea ever. We acquire Scalabrine. We then get rid of: Jones, Ford, Granger, Hibbert, Rush, and Price. To replace them we acquire: David Lee, Kirk Hinrich, Mike Miller, and Brad Miller. I know what you are saying: rollonubears! That only leaves us 11 players! Well here is where it gets good. To round out the active roster we acquire Ricky Davis. Sure, the team would be pretty bad, but that would be the most ridiculously entertaining locker room EVER. I would most certainly pay money to be able to watch what transpired in there.

All aboard the Jahvid Best rickshaw!

by rollonubears on Jul 18, 2009 2:10 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

It seems to me more like a package of Tony + Giddens.

by P2 on Jul 18, 2009 8:02 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I wouldn't mind seeing what Walker can do for us

He was Beasley’s very capable Scottie Pippen at Kansas State and I believe the two of them scored roughly 75 combined points in a game where KSU scored 85 or so points. But he does seem incredibly raw and he won’t be getting any reps in Boston. I gotta believe he has some kind of game based on college and his respectable per minute production last year.

And I could use some help regarding Scalabrine. I know of his game, and I’ve seen him play, but I was always under the impression he was more of a PF, not a SF to compliment Danny. With about 18 C/PFs on the roster and 1 SF, I’m not exactly gushing over getting Scal in a SNT.

I do like the deal for Boston though to get Quisy. If he can stay healthy, that really helps them out to give Pierce some mid-season relief and have him looking a little more ready for the postseason than he looked last year.

by goodlucksaturday on Jul 17, 2009 11:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

thats why...

we need to just sign Jamario Moon………

by SHaFF87 on Jul 18, 2009 5:37 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I would prefer either Bill Walker or Tony Allen. Allen would be my first choice. This is another good defensive player who could really come into his own in Indiana. I don’t know a lot about Walker.

by davis72 on Jul 18, 2009 9:32 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I would send them almost anybody...

Including Granger, certainly T.J. Ford and Tinsley, if we could somehow get Rondo.

by Rob Ives on Jul 18, 2009 1:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Granger for Rondo???? HAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAH

All aboard the Jahvid Best rickshaw!

by rollonubears on Jul 18, 2009 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Granger is a nice player

But Rondo is a better player. Don’t be hypnotized by scoring averages. Rondo could score much more. Danny is not a good passer or rebounder. He is a decent scorer and defender and a good teammate. His average is so high because of the type of team we have. He is no superstar.

by Rob Ives on Jul 18, 2009 11:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

It is taking every single ounce of effort in my body to hold back right now.

All aboard the Jahvid Best rickshaw!

by rollonubears on Jul 18, 2009 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

What you said about Granger

You can multiply ten-fold about Rondo. Don’t get hypnotized by inflated PG numbers. He is a good player/defender, but seriously, he passes the ball to Allen, Garnett, and Pierce. You think he can get assists? TJ Ford could have the exact same numbers playing with those guys. Would you trade Granger for Ford?

by jantz101 on Jul 19, 2009 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

LOL

im sorry, thats all i can say to that

by pacers33 on Jul 19, 2009 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

in response to Rob Ives

by pacers33 on Jul 19, 2009 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I would not trade Granger for Rondo. There isn’t a player on the Celtics I’d trade Granger for.

by goodlucksaturday on Jul 18, 2009 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

chad ford seems to think it tony allen, walker and pruitt

for daniels…celtic fans are hoping to get something else with daniels i.e. deiner

by celticinorlando on Jul 18, 2009 5:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

1 guy with very good potential, and Pruitt has some decent potential too, right? Plus, it allows me to tell a hilarious story of how Pruitt was heckled by Cal fans in college.

All aboard the Jahvid Best rickshaw!

by rollonubears on Jul 18, 2009 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

TInsley anyone?

If Tinsley is really working out these past months, I guess there’s no doubt he’ll be in the mix. Where was he last spotted? In Atlanta?

I guess the S-A-T will only work if tinsley will get in the mix…. really. Here’s what’ll happen,
The Pacers get Scal + Tony Allen, then the Celtics will get Daniels and Tinsley, Then the Celts will trade Tinsley + Walker to the Hawks for draft picks + Flip Murray and/or Mario West. And everyone will be happy together.
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by IndieBald on Jul 18, 2009 6:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs