Dahntay Jones: Larry Bird's Homage To M.L. Carr?
Hmm, Roy "Chief" Hibbert? It's going to take a lot of work by Hibbert, but I could get used to it.
Larry Bird learned how to assemble a championship team by watching Red Auerbach assemble a group of teammates that worked hard and all pointed toward the same primary goal of winning a championship. So it's shouldn't be surprising that Bird has returned to the basics while trying to build a championship contending team by hunting out pieces that fit a familiar mold. As Bird mentioned in the Dahntay Jones' press conference, when he sees the right piece for the Pacers, he's going to grab it.
"What we've been trying to do in the last couple years is pick up pieces. And like I said, we're going to try to get a core group of young men that we can move forward with, with this franchise and when we have an opportunity we're going to grab that piece and we feel we can get a couple of more maybe this year."
"I like energy guys, I like guys that play hard and when they come to practice they've got talent that brings everybody else up. Now we've got a few of them. Our practices are going to be a lot better and we're going to be able to compete on a nightly basis. It's all about giving the effort and you want players here that are going to give the effort every day. That's why we got Dahntay, Hansbrough, re-signed Josh McRoberts. There's a reason we do that. We want players that play hard on the court and then off the court give back to the community."
After drafting Tyler Hansbrough, Bird heaped some of his highest praise on the rookie by comparing him to a modern-day Dave Cowens. Cowens won a pair of championships in the '70's with the Celtics and was around for Bird's first year in Boston. Upon closer inspection, Bird's signing of Dahntay Jones resembles a move Auerbach made thirty years ago which helped solidify the Celtics' depth and defense for two more championships in the early '80's. In some respects, the moves share an uncanny resemblance.
Another quote from Bird on Tuesday revealed that he's intent on filling all of the roles of various size and import needed for a successful team in the future. With respect to Jones, Bird expects him to fill a role which helped Bird raise a couple of banners in the Boston Garden rafters."I played on a lot of teams and if you have a guy that's focused on the defensive end it brings your defense up. If he says, hey, I'll take Kobe Bryant, I want to guard him. That takes the pressure off the other players. Not that they don't want to guard him it's just that they know we have a guy that can go out there and be a defensive stopper and that's why we got Dahntay."
After hearing this comment, my first thought was, M.L. Carr.
Dahntay Jones found his NBA career reborn last year by developing into a niche player focused on defense. Just as there's always a role for a player who can knock down the 3-ball, there will be a spot in the league for a dedicated defender. While the game may have forced Jones to adapt to a defensive mindset or die, he appears ready to embrace the role with all his might.
So he joins a Pacers team that has struggled of late, not as the savior, but as a part of the whole planning to fulfill his role at the defensive end, fill in on offense where he can and push his teammates to keep on grinding.
Similarly, M.L. Carr made his name in the NBA by employing a defensive mindset. Carr joined a struggling Boston Celtics team after playing in Detroit the previous season, leading the league in steals per game and being named to the All-Defensive second team. This would be Larry Bird's rookie season which saw the fortunes of the Celtics turn around. While Bird gets the credit for Boston suddenly becoming a championship contender, he also knows having players like Carr on the roster played a role as well.
Jones and Carr share another trait in the energy they bring not only on the court but while on the bench, as well. Just as Carr became famous for his towel-waiving exploits while exhorting teammates from the bench, Jones could be seen last year pushing his teammates to keep up the pace as they advanced to the Western Conference finals. A defensive-minded player with no time for complaints about PT? Yep, every team could use one of those.
Oh, and there are more similarities between Carr and Jones despite the 30-year gap. Carr was listed at 6'-6", 205 pounds while Jones checks in at 6'-6" and 210 pounds. Carr joined the Celtics at age 28 just like Jones. In fact, their birthdays are only 13 days apart, so as Carr did in his first year with the C's, Jones will turn 29 around the first of the year.
Carr and Jones aren't complete mirror images, though. Carr arrived in Boston with a far better resume after his years in Detroit. It also appears, their roles may be heading in opposite directions as Carr's minutes dipped in the championship years with the Celtics. At this point, it appears that the Pacers will rely on Jones to play at least 20 minutes per game off the bench and likely more until Mike Dunleavy is back in the mix.
But in general, after exploring my initial thought, I was amazed at just how similar the acquisition of Jones was to Carr's arrival in Boston thirty years ago. Assuming everything goes according to plan, like adding a Larry Bird-type player, I guess we can expect to see Dahntay Jones steal a ball to seal a series-changing road win en route to a championship for the Pacers in 2014.
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nice comparison
We can only hope our fortunes turn around like that. I lived in Boston from 88-95 so I’m a huge fan of those 80’s teams (although realistically, being born in 84, I don’t remember much before Bird got a bad back and Reggie Lewis died). I love seeing old C’s footage. So how long does this comparison last? Will he end up coaching us too?
"If you don't [draft me], I promise you I'll come back and kick your ass for the next 15 years."
by psvirsky on Jul 15, 2009 7:36 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yea...
great little piece. I grew up only watching the Celts really as well, my dad being a huge fan. I read both of Birds books a few years back and he alwaysss preaches guys like this. I know I have said it on here before, but I distinclty remember him swearing how big Greg Kite was for those Celtic teams, solely on how hard he practiced. He pushed McHale and Parrish everyday, never giving them a day off, and thats what made them better.
As for Dahntay, I am reallly excited about him He was gotten CHEAAAPPP. You lock a guy up through his prime year for 2.5 million/ year, there is no way theres anyvalue out there better than that, I am sorry. I am veryyy anxious to see how we finish off this offseason. I really hope another big move is coming, to put us in middle of the pack playoff position.
As for Iverson coming, hes been one of my two or 3 favorite players since I wa in High School, and I love him, but I don’t want him here. Plus, he wants to go to a bigger market I think, and we can’t outspend anyone.
by captain flitzy on Jul 15, 2009 8:16 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
roy "chief" hibbert?
haha well i’m sure the similarities between dahntay jones and m.l. carr are pure coincidence. i can see that larry legend’s taking this rebuilding thing real serious. i’m not expecting a super performance by the pacers this season but, really i hope things will go well. go pacers!
by kookygoddess on Jul 15, 2009 9:26 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It's not 1986 anymore
" Tell me something Steve, How does a guy from Puerto Rico loose a ball in the Sun? "
by aaronb on Jul 15, 2009 10:03 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
While there are more than a few observers in the NBA’s on-line community that question the sensibility of Larry Bird & David Morway’s personnel moves with the Pacers over the last 12 months, yours truly does NOT fit into that category.
Valuable stuff that’s missed by those who rely too heavily on stats
If the simply commit to matching the offer sheet which Jarrett Jack signed with the Raptors AND then make the decision to move either one or both of TJ Ford and Jamaal Tinsley between now and the point at which the Luxury Tax actually kicks in on the calendar … which is very doable … they will be set to go as 1 of the best teams in the EC for the next several seasons, as soon as Mike Dunleavy returns to full health [Feb/2010?]. Larry Bird might not look the part, but there should be no doubt whatsoever that he knows exactly what he’s doing in his efforts to re-build the team in Indiana.
- Trading Jermaine O’Neal was a solid move
- Selecting Roy Hibbert with the No. 17 [overall] Draft Pick last year was a solid move
- Selecting Tyler Hansbrough with the No. 13 [overall] Draft Pick was a solid move
- Renouncing Marquis Daniels was a solid move
- Signing Dahntay Jones was a solid move
- Matching the offer to Jarrett Jack WOULD be a solid move
- Trading either one or both TJ Ford and/or Jamaal Tinsley WOULD be a solid move AND set the Pacers to be a live contender for the #4-8 Playoff spot in the EC for the next 5 years … once they get Mike Dunleavy back healthy
khandor
by khandor on Jul 15, 2009 10:07 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Official News on the Pacers final decision re: Jarrett Jack
If someone could please pass this information along to me, once it actually is made public, I’d appreciate it very much.
khandor
by khandor on Jul 15, 2009 10:33 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Thread Jack...are season renewal tickets that bad?
http://twitter.com/sportsguy33/status/2652310758
Not sure if Simmons is credible or not here, but I thought this was pretty interesting. Let’s hope they turn it around this year. Thoughts?
by bobbybeingmanny on Jul 15, 2009 1:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

















