Reports: Toronto Set To Make Jarrett Jack An Offer

by Tom Lewis on Jul 11, 2009 7:42 PM EDT in News Comment 14 comments

According to Ken Berger, the Toronto Raptors are close to signing an offer sheet for Jarrett Jack which will force the Pacers to match the terms or lose Jack. Unfortunately, the terms of the offer are unknown at this time but anything over $3.5 million per year will do the trick. Bummer on many levels, but if the offer is too high for the Pacers then congrats to Jack, he earned it last year.

UPDATE: Mike Wells heard from Jarrett Jack who didn't relay the final numbers but did say the offer is expected to be for a four-year contract.

UPDATE II: Whoa! David Aldrige is reporting that the Raptors are using the $5.8 MLE for Jack this whic they preserved by acquiring Hedo Turkoglu through a sign and trade. Seems like a lot, although maybe the first year of the contract will be top heavy. If true, good bye and good luck, JJack.

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May have to be high on Price

Whether or not we really are.

I’m really afraid this team is going to be heading the wrong way next year if we can’t retain Jack. Unless Bird has some plans in replacing Jack, we’re going to have a second unit of Price/Diener, Jones, Foster, Hansbrough, and that SF we still need to get behind Danny. Unless we’re getting Barnes or Sessions, who’s going to be a reliable scorer in that unit? Hansbrough? We may have to pull a Denver and start Jones just to get some spark off the bench with Rush.

I hate to think negatively, but I don’t see a way we can tread water until Mike comes back with that lineup as a second unit. We may be spending the second the second half of the year making up lost ground again.

But the bright side is, the season doesn’t start tomorrow, so there’s still time and options out there to get this thing rolling the right way again, but Jack is going to be a huge blow regardless.

by goodlucksaturday on Jul 11, 2009 8:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

need… too… trade… for… new… pg…

ford/diener/price

ewwwwwwwwww

by dbcb on Jul 11, 2009 8:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Sure glad we spent all that money on Dahntay "I'm Terrible" Jones.

by SethGrandpa on Jul 11, 2009 8:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

jack isn’t worth more than 3.4 million anyway….

by dbcb on Jul 11, 2009 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I liked Jack's toughness and team first mentality he brought last year...

Hated his jump-pass-turnover, though. If we can get a decent pg who can just control the point of attack, pleeaaaassssssssssseeeeee……

by Gwen on Jul 11, 2009 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I agree a bit

At least regarding his gunslinger mentality. He seemed to go for broke a lot instead I hated it early, but I think I got used to it towards the end. He did take a lot of “NOOOYESS!!!” shots.

But damn, the MLE? For Jack? Jeez oh pete. I wouldn’t want to pay him that anyway. Craziness. I was thinking $3.5-4 seemed about right for him. Still hate to lose him.

by goodlucksaturday on Jul 11, 2009 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

3.4 is more than he is worth for sure

Jack is one of those players that isn’t a starter but really isn’t a bench player either. I like his game and think he brings nice things to a team, but he is worth about 2.5-3 mil tops, at least IMO. Fact of the matter is this, we aren’t going anywhere far with a team led by Ford or Jack, so this really won’t be too big of a loss.

"My game’s like the Pythagorean Theorem. It ain’t got no answer." - Shaq

by bleedinblueandgold on Jul 11, 2009 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Definitely agree

If the Pacers ever become a playoff team, Jack just seemed like the backup PG and not the starter. He just isn’t built for that. I enjoyed watching him play last year, but using the MLE to resign him would not be a smart move.

by spstevenson on Jul 11, 2009 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

The MLE>??

lol at toronto. they are like Detroit. content to be mediocre for the next 5 years.

5.8 millino for someone that couldn’t crack the starting rotation on a bad team until the end of the season. wow.

good for jack… i bet he didn’t expect the MLE in this economy with a 13ish PER. can’t hate on him for gettin his bread.

by dbcb on Jul 11, 2009 11:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

What if...

Could the Pacers use their own MLE to go after Ramon Sessions of Milwaukee? His skill has definitely shown he’s worthy of such a price. Especially if the Pacers cannot match Toronto’s offer for Jack.

Sessions can split time at Point Guard with TJ Ford. After next season, the Pacers can cut ties with Ford and focus on putting their future on Session’s shoulders. The following link is the most recent update on the Milwaukee Bucks’ blog on discussions with Sessions:

http://www.brewhoop.com/2009/7/10/943794/thursday-notes-amir-in-vegas

I get the impression they would not be in a position financially to match a MLE offer for Sessions. It also appears many fans would rather see the Bucks go after Josh Childress of the Atlanta Hawks.

The potential loss of Jack isn’t a curse just yet. The Pacers would could strike Blue and Gold with an offer made to Sessions. However, they had better act quick. New York and Portland are two teams who’ve been rumored to be in pursuit of Session’s services.

I say let Jack walk and strike a deal with Sessions!

The FAULK

by incredibleFAULK on Jul 12, 2009 12:03 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Nooooooooooooooooooooo

I’m really not sure why the Raps did this, but I guess I’m glad they gave their MLE to Jack and not Sessions.

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by Frank Madden on Jul 12, 2009 3:18 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

How Nervous...

Frank, welcome to the Blue and Gold! On a scale of 1 to 10, how likely to you see the Bucks matching a MLE offer for Sessions?

It’s my hope, now that Jack’s apparently too pricey, the Pacers throw their MLE at Ramon. What do you think will come of this?

The FAULK

by incredibleFAULK on Jul 12, 2009 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Thanks, iF.

If it’s a four or five year deal I don’t see the Bucks matching (even a sub-MLE deal might not be matched at that length). Three years, maybe. I would hope they’d match a one or two-year deal without hesitation, but they’re pretty tough to read as to where they are on Sessions. They obviously preferred Ramon to CV, but that’s not necessarily saying a lot. There was talk they were close to dealing Ridnour at the end of June, which would obviously indicate their interest in keeping Ramon, but nothing’s come of that.

Obviously whatever happens is going to be closely related to their view of Jennings’ readiness. I have to think they’d want a Sessions deal to dovetail with Jennings maturing, such that Sessions isn’t still on a long-term deal when Jennings is maturing into a starter. I don’t think anyone expects Jennings to start this year, but it’s tough to say what kind of learning curve he’ll have. I’d like to keep Ramon largely because I’d rather have two young PGs with potential than one—it’s not like BJ is a sure thing obviously.

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by Frank Madden on Jul 12, 2009 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Raptors just offered

4 years and 20 mil?!?!?!?! wow. Goodbye Jarret and thanks for your time. I’m glad to see you make more money but I have to believe you are getting way overpaid right there with your new teammate Hedu. 5 mil a year, really?!

"My game’s like the Pythagorean Theorem. It ain’t got no answer." - Shaq

by bleedinblueandgold on Jul 12, 2009 5:49 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs