IC Cold Links: Happy NBA Draft Day!
by Tom Lewis on Jun 25, 2009 6:28 AM EDT
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PrintIf you're cruisin' these parts then you're fully aware that the NBA Draft is tonight with the Indiana Pacers currently slated to enter the fray with the 13th pick in the first round. I will be live blogging from the Pacers Draft Party tonight and sneaking in to say hi to JMV at The Pub beforehand. Here are a few links of interest while waiting for the festivities to begin:
- The Pacers' pick is. . .
Mike Wells digs into the options facing Larry Bird in tonight's draft. Don' miss the draft discussion including Jeff Rabjohns on the side bar. - Rumors and free agent workouts
Mike blogs about rumors of the Pacers trading down, along with information on a few names the Pacers brought in earlier this week for free agent workouts. Earl Calloway, Anthony Tolliver and Nick Fazekas were among those players. - Blockbuster less likely, but Bird considering deals
Bruno offers up some trading options for the Pacers. In the end it will depend on how the draft plays out ahead of the 13th pick, but comments from Larry Bird and David Morway seem to indicate they'll be happy with the player they can take at 13. - Larry Bird with JMV (audio). The pair talked about the draft, roster moves for the Pacers and French Lick.
- David Morway chats with Dan Dakich (audio) about the draft and the direction the Pacers are headed. Nice to hear Morway so excited and upbeat about what lies ahead for the team.
- Courtney Witte talks with Dan Dakich (audio) about the NBA Draft. The former Hoosier and current Philadelphia 76ers Director of Player Personnel gets into some of the nuts and bolts of draft prep. Interesting coversation.
- Cornrows on XL 950 (audio). Here's my chat with Derek Schultz on XL 950. This is what happens with a cell phone on the side of the road. You can hear some of my comments though. Big ups to Schultz for having me on!
- NBA.com: Closer look at all the NBA movement
NBA.com has a trade tracker up which will should come in handy throughout the day. Refresh often. - Cleveland brings in Shaq to run with LeBron
Adrian Wojnarowski breaks down the reasoning behind Cleveland's reported trade to add Shaquille O'Neal to the Cavs. Shaq's presence will certainly add some juice to the Central Division.
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Ahh...the day is finally upon us
Just wanted to start off with Shaq thoughts. And my thoughts are it’s stupid. Lebron is 24 years old and you want to keep him around for a while so to do that you get an old C who is rarely in shape and can’t play back to back nights. On top of that, you lost to Orlando because you can’t guard the pick and roll so you get a C who is too slow to do it. The Simmons/Ford podcast mentioned how different Presti and Ferry are in putting a team together around a superstar. Durant has young talent that he can grow with while Lebron has older guys who won’t be around much longer. The Cavs need some serious young talent so that they can contend for a while, not older guys past their prime who can only help in a win-now mentality. Just stupid. I like Lebron and it upsets me that they’re doing this. The only positive is the $20 million coming off the cap next year to get someone like Bosh. Anyways……
I’m really looking forward to a fun night. With the economy affecting team’s plans and a bunch of guys from 7-22 that are pretty even talent-wise, there could be a lot of movement. To top it off, my wife has a wine night and will be out of the house most of the evening and John Smoltz is pitching his first game for the Red Sox. This might be too much to handle….
"If you don't [draft me], I promise you I'll come back and kick your ass for the next 15 years."
Going to be tough to watch
I am going to be on the edge of my seat during the draft praying for good things to happen. It also pains me to see Smoltz pitch in a uni that doesn’t have BRAVES on the front of it. Hoping the best for him, however. After watching him, Glavine, and Maddux growing up my whole life, its very odd to see them all leave and finish their careers elsewhere.
"My game’s like the Pythagorean Theorem. It ain’t got no answer." - Shaq
by bleedinblueandgold on Jun 25, 2009 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions
it really is an odd feeling
And outside of being a Sox fan, it would just be cool to see him still do well at this age after an injury. BTW, I know what most Sox fans are like so I’ll throw in a quick defense. I’ve lived in 3 cities in my life and Boston is the only one with a MLB team (Indy and New Orleans being the other two) so I’m not a bandwagon or random fan. I’ve been a fan since Mo Vaughn or so and I actually cried during game 7 of the 04 ALCS against the Yankees.
But back to basketball……I’m not going to get any work done today at all. Oh well
"If you don't [draft me], I promise you I'll come back and kick your ass for the next 15 years."
No problem with Sox fans as I hate they Yankees. It sucks not having a local team to root for. I’m a Braves fan solely on the fact that they were always on TBS when I was growing up (and they were good!).
"My game’s like the Pythagorean Theorem. It ain’t got no answer." - Shaq
by bleedinblueandgold on Jun 25, 2009 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions
that's something that i don't get
from being out here in Indy, i encounter a lot of anti-Yankees sentiment. i actually know a Reds fan that says he hates the Yankees more than any other team. really? more than Division rivals like the Cubs or Cardinals? that makes zero sense.
the Sox used to be the lovable losers, but their fans now are just as abundant and as annoying as Yankees fans. also, the bandwagon fans are just as prevalent.
if i was a non-Yankees, non-Sox fan, i would hate both of those teams.
Ewing with the step...YES! and the foul!
by Anthony Masons Haircut on Jun 25, 2009 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Totally understandable
The Red Sox as a franchise and their fans are now just as horrible as the Yankees and I think real fans can accept that.
"If you don't [draft me], I promise you I'll come back and kick your ass for the next 15 years."
Fans
By no means do I enjoy the Sox or their bandwagon fans. If there is a legitimate reason to be their fan then i completely respect that. It tends to be the bandwagoners that are the obnoxious ones from what I have witnessed. And yes, I hate the Mets and Phillies more then either of these teams, Especially the Mets. I laugh every year when they choke down the stretch. I too am a pretty avid Reds fan, as they are close and I travel to a few of their games during the summertime (just went to the Reds Braves game last week) and I completely agree with your statement on the Cardinals and Cubs. The only thing about the Cardinals is at least their fans are respectable and love the game. Being in Indy I must admit that all the people who follow the Cubs get as annoying as Yankee fans.
"My game’s like the Pythagorean Theorem. It ain’t got no answer." - Shaq
by bleedinblueandgold on Jun 25, 2009 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions
completely agree
"If you don't [draft me], I promise you I'll come back and kick your ass for the next 15 years."
Unfortunately, I am with you on Dunleavy. It sounds like to me all of these problems are never going to really get better. At least well enough to play in the rigorous NBA. I think the future will have to be without him. I think other teams know he is probably done which means we won’t be able to get rid of him either. I too also love the ability of Rush to develop into a great player next to Granger and from one of the top wing combos in the NBA. He’s shown a lot to me and even when he struggled last year there is just something about the way he plays that makes you think he could be an 18-20 ppg scorer if he gets more aggressive. He is so natural in all of his movements and is so athletic. I really hope he continues to develop as he did at the end of last year with extended playing time.
"My game’s like the Pythagorean Theorem. It ain’t got no answer." - Shaq
by bleedinblueandgold on Jun 25, 2009 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions
I was at game 4
of the 04 series when Ortiz hit the walk off. Me and my friend are both huge yankee haters so we drove there for the game from jersey, and than came right home. He became a Sox fan after that game, (even though i still dont acknowledge him for being one cause its TOO bandwagon) and i stayed a lowly, lonely, A’s fan. But Boston is f’ing great, I love it there.
by captain flitzy on Jun 25, 2009 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions
oh wow
That’s really an amazing game to have been to. As a loyal Red Sox fan, I had pretty much given up and didn’t watch most of the game because I didn’t want to see the Yankees celebrate in Fenway for yet another ALCS victory. My friend called me in the 9th just to say it was going to extra innings and I saw the rest. Those 3 games (4-6) were really some of the more unbelievable sporting events I"ve ever witnessed as a fan.
"If you don't [draft me], I promise you I'll come back and kick your ass for the next 15 years."
Lorbek
Did anyone else see that John Hollinger has Lorbek rated the second best Euro prospect who’s rights are already held by an NBA club? His translated PER rating is 17.16. Not too bad.
hey not bad at all, maybe he can help us out at some point...
"If you don't [draft me], I promise you I'll come back and kick your ass for the next 15 years."
6 hours........
"If you don't [draft me], I promise you I'll come back and kick your ass for the next 15 years."
My argument for Lawson
The Pacers have a boatload of middling quality power forwards/centers locked up forever. Murphy, Foster. Hibbert is there for better or worse. Granger and Dunleavy can sort of play the 4 as well.
So I don’t see any real logic to them drafting Hansbrough. I could sort of see Blair just because he provides a different dimension, but Hansbrough provides exactly the same dimensions, probably, as Murphy, just not as well.
But Blair… there are a lot of red flags there, and this team needs a player that produces.
Lawson, on the other hand, seems like a very obvious choice. I don’t care what smoke anyone blows, I can’t see the Pacers shelling out major money to re-sign Jarett Jack. He’s a backup. And the team is bleeding money.
And nobody should feel all that great about TJ Ford. He’s not bad, but he’s expensive and well… not good.
Lawson seems an obvious fit. Cheap, plays like Ford but can shoot the 3 ball, which Jim O’Brian wants. Good player all around from a good program. If he’s not the guy and he’s available, it’s a mistake.
- Great athleticism
- Good leader
- Good distributor
- Good shooter
What else does one want in a PG? He’s got all the tools and has shown he can use them. Pick this guy, consider yourselves lucky to get him, and call it a day. If you can somehow swing TJ Ford out of town and save some money on top of it, fall to your knees and count your lucky stars.
i like Lawson too
i think that this is the ideal situation:
assuming they bring back Jack and Diener, and this is the final year of Ford’s contract, let’s say they draft Lawson or another point (Maynor?) at #13.
groom Lawson for a year and get him accustomed to the pros. i don’t think it will take more than a year for him to be ready. next summer, let TJ walk, let Jack be the sixth man backing up the 1 and the 2, and Diener can still be a capable 3rd PG if necessary.
the lineup would look something like this entering 2010-11:
PG Lawson
SG Rush
SF Granger
PF Murphy
C Hibbert
with a bench rotation of Jack, Foster, Diener, maybe pick #52 this year, Lorbek (if he ever shows up).
i still won’t rule out the team re-signing Marquis either. when he’s been healthy (rare, but still), he’s been effective. they won’t bring him back on the player option, but once they decline that, maybe they can get him for $4M or so.
Ewing with the step...YES! and the foul!
by Anthony Masons Haircut on Jun 25, 2009 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions
I like Jennings better
If we are indeed going PG this year. Brandon Jennings is thte guy I’d put at the top of the list.
He was the #1 HS recruit coming into this season. He is probably the highest upside guy you can get at 13.
As for #52, I’d like to start the Paul Harris bandwagon. High upside, lockdown defense, excellent rebounder for a guard.
More combo guard than PG. However scouts say he can handle the 1 in a pinch.
Stash him in Ft. Wayne this year so he can work on his offensive game. None the less, he will fill a defensive stopper role in the NBA. At 52 that is the type of guy you really need to look for. Somebody who can fill a specific role. Just my opinion.
" Tell me something Steve, How does a guy from Puerto Rico loose a ball in the Sun? "
2 things (maybe more)
You are forgetting to put Dunleavy in that starting lineup. Assuming he is healthy and assuming he is still on the roster, he will surely be in the starting rotation, if not hell be the 6th man. I really hope that those 5 that you listed above is not our starting lineup in 2 years. I would love to see Dunleavy gone, Murphy gone, and Granger with alot more help.
Players primes only last a few years, and look at what has happened with Cleveland and Lebron. In no way am I comparing Granger to Lebron, they are COMPLETE different animals, BUT, I think there will be some serious regret if we don’t get Granger another STUD. I know the reports say indy is losing money, and it is not my money, but I hope they just swallow it and spend and pick up some guys $.80 on the dollar (maye even cheaper). It would be a shame to watch Danny come and go without ever having a true, real deal sidekick.
by captain flitzy on Jun 25, 2009 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
agree as well
"If you don't [draft me], I promise you I'll come back and kick your ass for the next 15 years."
well technically it's one year
i’m talking about the year after this coming season. also, i forgot to add the Draft picks in next year’s class.
unfortunately, i’m assuming Dunleavy’s career is over. i hope that’s not the case, but it’s certainly a realistic possibility.
don’t you think that Rush can be the jelly to Granger’s peanut butter (for lack of a better analogy)? i think Rush can develop into a 12-17 ppg player while Granger remains among the league’s best (24-27 ppg). Jack is a solid role player, Hibbert can continue to develop perhaps eventually into a double-double guy (if he learns how to rebound/stays out of foul trouble). when you think about Granger entering his prime soon, and Rush/Hibbert with another season under their belts, i don’t think that lineup is looking so bad.
i know that 2010-11 roster isn’t jaw-dropping but this is the Pacers we’re talking about. they don’t have much cap space to work with, are in a small-market, and will have to improve through the Draft and lower-level free agents. it’s not a Title team but it’s a pretty big improvement from what they had on the floor just a year ago (’07-08).
Ewing with the step...YES! and the foul!
by Anthony Masons Haircut on Jun 25, 2009 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions
My post went to the wrong spot...
I replied to this post and it went back up towards the baseball talk. I agree with all of your comments. Here is the post again (sorry for the repeat!) Unfortunately, I am with you on Dunleavy. It sounds like to me all of these problems are never going to really get better. At least well enough to play in the rigorous NBA. I think the future will have to be without him. I think other teams know he is probably done which means we won’t be able to get rid of him either. I too also love the ability of Rush to develop into a great player next to Granger and from one of the top wing combos in the NBA. He’s shown a lot to me and even when he struggled last year there is just something about the way he plays that makes you think he could be an 18-20 ppg scorer if he gets more aggressive. He is so natural in all of his movements and is so athletic. I really hope he continues to develop as he did at the end of last year with extended playing time.
"My game’s like the Pythagorean Theorem. It ain’t got no answer." - Shaq
by bleedinblueandgold on Jun 25, 2009 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions
If Dunleavy is done, hopefully we can get some of that medical insurance to cover his contract by the end of next year and that’ll help the financial issues.
As for Rush, he could definitely turn into a solid second fiddle, but it’s just way too early to tell. Gotta hope for the best there
"If you don't [draft me], I promise you I'll come back and kick your ass for the next 15 years."
I don't see it
AMH, I’m afraid you are looking at the Pacers roster with rose colored glasses.
Just because a guy is on our roster, doesn’t mean he is All-Star material. Danny Granger is the ONLY guy on this current roster who will ever see an all star game. Rush is a 8 or 9th guy on a good team. Hibbert is a tick below Rush. Ask yourselves this question before you take any offense to my Pacers talent level assertions.
Who on our roster starts for the LA Lakers right now?
Danny Granger and………….
" Tell me something Steve, How does a guy from Puerto Rico loose a ball in the Sun? "
my rose-colored glasses are actually orange
i’m actually a Knicks fan (hence Anthony Masons Haircut)..
but now that i’m in Indianapolis, i pay attention to the Pacers and would like to see them do well.
as far as Rush making a jump, i guess Pacers’ fans shouldn’t be encouraged that he scored 24, 27, 21, 29, and 29 points in 5 of his final 10 games last season. that was after being a complete non-factor in January and February. i guess he’s terrible.
Ewing with the step...YES! and the foul!
by Anthony Masons Haircut on Jun 25, 2009 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Welcome to Indy friend
I’m not trying to be contrarian or anything. So hopefully you don’t take offense to differing views.
I do think it was good that Rush played well at the end of the year.
However you have to look at it in context. Every team in the NBA is going to score around 100 points. Somebody HAS to put up some numbers if 2 teams are on the floor and playing 48 minutes. I suspect Rush’s “surge” was more of a perimeter based offensive attack used by JOB and the fact that Daniels and Dunleavy missed the last 1/3rd of the season.
The better question to ask yourself is this? How would Steve Graham or Rodney Carney do with similar minutes in the same offense?
" Tell me something Steve, How does a guy from Puerto Rico loose a ball in the Sun? "
Awesome!
Don’t forget he did that against Chicago, Washington, Detroit, Cleveland, and Milwaukee. Really great defensive teams, all of them. Ben Gordon is a midget, Washington had packed it in already and was tanking, and Milwaukee was, well Milwaukee.
Being motivated for two weeks at a time has never been a problem for Rush, staying motivated for longer than that is impossible.
i think he worked out whatever was dogging him in the early months
he was in O’Brien’s doghouse allegedly for lack of effort. he looked lazy and i thought he was going to be a bust.
but even without the strong numbers, didn’t you see a renewed sense of determination from Rush? it wasn’t just the box score, i thought his attitude was much better.
not saying the kid is going to be a all-star next year and a future HOF, but you had to have been at least slightly encouraged with how he finished the season.
Ewing with the step...YES! and the foul!
by Anthony Masons Haircut on Jun 25, 2009 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions
I guess the point here should be that regardless of his history of a lack of consistent motivation, we, as Pacers fans, have to hope that he gets over it. He has the potential in terms of talent and size. We can give up on him now but that’s no fun. Also, he’s still a young guy, relatively. He’s turning 24 in a week or so. Some personality traits are less likely than others to change with age, but finding motivation can definitely occur at age 24.
No one can rationally argue that Rush will no doubt turn into a great player. It’s just that the potential is there and if he reached it the Pacers could take a bit step up.
"If you don't [draft me], I promise you I'll come back and kick your ass for the next 15 years."
Of course I hope he gets over it, I would much rather own a B. Rush jersey someday than be right about his NBA career. I am too much of a Pacer fan not to think this way. However over the years I’ve been fed too much nonsense about the potential of certain guys, Shawne Williams, Jonathan Bender and now Brandon Rush. You could say I’m highly skeptical.
I totally understand
Personally I try to be optimistic about these things because when i start to get skeptical or cynical I tend to lose interest and I want to be a Pacers fan. But yeah, being a sports fan can be tough when most guys don’t pan out and it’s easy to get sick of hearing the same crap, especially about a player you know more about
"If you don't [draft me], I promise you I'll come back and kick your ass for the next 15 years."
Fool me once,
After watching Brandon for the three years he was at KU I know this cycle all too well. I put together a post already that chronicled all of the times he was called out by Bill Self in the media. This is a pattern for Rush and it was evident once again last year. Looking lazy and lacking effort are terms trademarked by Rush. If Brandon can stay motivated for longer than two weeks I will be shocked.
I’m not trying to be arrogant, but I live here and have watched Rush play ball since his AAU days. I’ve also heard many things in this town about Brandon’s laziness.
Just for comparasin sake
Shawne Williams (born February 16, 1986 )
Brandon Rush (born July 7, 1985)
" Tell me something Steve, How does a guy from Puerto Rico loose a ball in the Sun? "
Jerryd Bayless (born August 20, 1988
" Tell me something Steve, How does a guy from Puerto Rico loose a ball in the Sun? "
Where are you here from?
I moved here two years ago but still spend most of my time following the Bulls.
It’d help my Pacers love if they made better moves. Right now I have to more or less disagree… they’re just so… blah. And locked into being blah. I wanted Lawson because he was the one guy I looked at and thought really had star potential that might be available to them.
How many rookies started for the Lakers? Ariza wasn’t playing at all 2 years ago and he turned out alright. Its just way to early to jump to conclusions. I am going to remain optimistic in the meantime because I think he has a nice skill set.
"My game’s like the Pythagorean Theorem. It ain’t got no answer." - Shaq
by bleedinblueandgold on Jun 25, 2009 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm a big Lawson fan too
Winn makes a pretty good defense of him there for his ability to play in the half court. The stats really back up the fact that he’s very well-rounded.
As for the argument that he had tons of talent around him, well, he really took full advantage and made the most of it that he could. His assist/turnover ratio is like 3.5, a full assist better than any of the other PG’s in the draft. He’s not a prolific shooter from 3 but he hits the open ones well. More than anything, he knows how to run a team and run it well. I mean he really knows how to run a team and that’s what you want out of a PG.
I’d be happy with him. As for the other PG’s we might get, Teague has potential but has a high bust potential. Maynor seems pretty solid and has size but nothing about him will wow you. Evans won’t drop to us. And Jennings definitely has the highest ceiling but I worry about him. His immaturity is concerning. He’s still too flashy. He could turn into an amazing PG but he could also turn into a headache real fast. He seems more likely to be hated by his first team, traded, grows up, and becomes good later on. Just a guess.
"If you don't [draft me], I promise you I'll come back and kick your ass for the next 15 years."
I’ve soured on Jennings as well but can be talked into Teague, Maynor or Lawson. I just don’t know a lot about Lawson’s defense. I don’t remember paying that close of attention to anything he did on the defensive end. Can anyone rate the defense of these four PG’s we’re debating between?
What do you think of Jennings now? How would you feel if we drafted him?
by captain flitzy on Jun 25, 2009 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions
I have been saying...
that i really want him, its been a toss up between him and Evans for me, but it really looks like Evans will be gone, and is realistically probably the better player. But yea, i think he brings excitement to the team, some flair, and i dont think his cockiness can infect the locker room they have built, i think it will be refreshing.
No one really knows how to judge his move to Europe, but i know this. that if HSers were allowed to enter the draft, we would have needed a top 3 pick to land him last year. for some reason i am intrigued by him and i really really want him.
by captain flitzy on Jun 25, 2009 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions
that is a good question
I can’t vouch for Lawson’s D but at least he’s a quick stocky guy so he should be able to stay in front of guys and not be overpowered.
My guess is that Maynor has the best D of the 4 (Holiday is probably better on D but won’t drop to us).
"If you don't [draft me], I promise you I'll come back and kick your ass for the next 15 years."
Earl
Don’t do it to me again this year Pacers. Don’t you bring in Earl Calloway and tease me with dreams of him bringing the ball up the court at lightspeed in the JOB offense and then cut him in training camp. I can’t take it. I would love to see Earl as a low cost backup PG on this team, there’s just no room for him on the roster unless we can move Diener in a trade.
YES
Calloway would be a dream as far as an emergency PG in JOB’s system. They guy is fast and quick as can be. He has also learned how to score the basketball a little. The quickness could really come into play as far as being put in for defensive reasons against other quick PG’s.
"My game’s like the Pythagorean Theorem. It ain’t got no answer." - Shaq
by bleedinblueandgold on Jun 25, 2009 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions
ahh yes
I was responding to this an hour ago when I got pulled into a surprise meeting. I’m a huge Calloway fan from the IU days and would love to see him on the Pacers. I don’t know that he’s NBA caliber but I do like the guy and the skills he has are good skills to have. The guy played pretty solidly all around with his main problem at times was probably over-dribbling.
Also, he was a pretty good guy on a team full of not-so-good guys. I met him a few times through friends and at work (the whole team loved Buffalouie’s that year) and he just seemed like a much better character guy than the others.
"If you don't [draft me], I promise you I'll come back and kick your ass for the next 15 years."
yeah he would joke around with you and hang out a bit while some of the other guys acted more like how you would expect a D1 player to act. I can’t vouch for all of the players but the other guy who always stood out as surprisingly nice was DJ White.
"If you don't [draft me], I promise you I'll come back and kick your ass for the next 15 years."
DJ is one of my all-time favorite athletes, any sport. He will always have my respect for putting up with what happened at IU during his time there.
most definitely
My favorite IU moment in my 4 years there was storming the court after an IU win (I think it was in 05) and high fiving DJ. He really was a great player who put up with a ton of shit and really developed from a skinny guy with potential into a big ten beast. I love the guy too. I’ve hung out with him a few times through friends in common and he really is a good guy outside of the limelight too.
"If you don't [draft me], I promise you I'll come back and kick your ass for the next 15 years."
that game i think is the OT win
over Michigan State, which was on my birthday.
i had scalped balcony seats and driven down to Bloomington the night before. i wish i could’ve been down on the court.
Ewing with the step...YES! and the foul!
by Anthony Masons Haircut on Jun 25, 2009 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions
we had season tickets
and magically, that was the one game we got courtside seats for. really just unbelievable. if the DJ high five isn’t my favorite moment, than it’s about 30 seconds after that as everyone is jumping up and down with the players in a semi-mosh pit near the scorer’s table. My buddy and I had snuck in a flask of good whiskey (I’m thinking Maker’s mark) and we each took a good swig right at center court, literally right where they tip off.
At that point we ran out just in case we were seen
"If you don't [draft me], I promise you I'll come back and kick your ass for the next 15 years."
2 thoughts
DraftExpress has a running blog going today with rumors and such. They mention that several teams are trying to move into the first round and that in general a lot of teams are looking to get into the late first round. Considering this draft is so weak, I wonder if it’s worth trying to do something about this enthusiasm while getting picks for next year.
secondly, to CR or Sean, maybe it would be appropriate to put up a post for running commentary on the draft rather than have all of us commenting on different posts. A post just for our running discussion?
"If you don't [draft me], I promise you I'll come back and kick your ass for the next 15 years."
Yea..
we had that running post last year. I will have to gracefully bow out though, because I just got tickets to the draaaaffttttttttt wwwwooooo!!!!!! Now THIS should be a circus, now i really hope indiana dont trade out of the first round for some reason, that would really be anticlimactic. This shoudl be sick tho. The question is, do i wear my work clothes, or do i change into jeans and a T!?? Dammmm i am pumped only 4 more hours
by captain flitzy on Jun 25, 2009 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions
You better be wearing Pacers gear to the draft. Represent for the franchise, I’m sure there won’t be many Pacer fans in the house. I vote that you wear a throwback Reggie Miller jersey, if you have one, to bring us some good luck.
Yeaaa
I definitely have one but I am meeting them at the Grden straight from work, and I live in jersey. I brought a pacers shirt with me and some jeans, i just gotta make the decision.
by captain flitzy on Jun 25, 2009 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions
and make choke signs to the knick fans
"If you don't [draft me], I promise you I'll come back and kick your ass for the next 15 years."
Ford just updated his Mock Draft and he has Holiday falling to the Pacers. I would love this. Although it probably just would mean that Bird would take him and ship him somewhere else for a player that has less upside. On second thought I hope he doesn’t fall to us, that way I don’t have to be upset when he gets traded.
he could definitely be a good pick if it works out
To have a PG who can really D up will make our team defense immediately a lot better.
"If you don't [draft me], I promise you I'll come back and kick your ass for the next 15 years."
Holliday has the potential
to be one of the best players in the Draft but i’d be shocked if it isn’t a veteran college player like Henderson, Blair, Hansbrough, Maynor or Lawson at #13. it would go against everything that Bird has said.
Ewing with the step...YES! and the foul!
by Anthony Masons Haircut on Jun 25, 2009 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah
it seems like Bird feels so burned by Shawne Williams that he won’t do that ever again. Hopefully he’ll bend in certain situations when supreme talents drop to us.
"If you don't [draft me], I promise you I'll come back and kick your ass for the next 15 years."
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