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The Pacers' thinker.

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The Pacers' thinker.

Larry Bird stirred up a fresh round of draft speculation yesterday while discussing the Pacers' supposed thoughts as they finalize preparations for Thursday's NBA Draft.

First was Bird's preference for 3-4 year college players who have a better chance to step in and play right away. This is a philosophy I agree with when you consider current state of the team with regard to the salary cap. They need a player who can contribute while only using up a rookie salary. This also allows the team to get a full four years of production from the player while his game continues to grow on the NBA level.

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Unless you have a can't miss young player, which is never an option at 13, then taking a risk just isn't an efficient use of the roster and cap. The Pacers aren't going to attract a free agent and they don't have the money to do so now anyway. Stashing a young player away for a couple of years in hopes that he develops uses up valuable dollars in the short term and by the time they are really ready to make an impact 3-4 years down the road, the team will be faced with extending the player's contract for significantly more money or letting the player go.

Again, the Pacers just aren't in a position to gamble. Extending rookie contracts in hopes of a brighter future burned the Pacers earlier in this decade (think Al Harrington, Jonathan Bender, Jamaal Tinsley). The team needs to take a fresh approach that relies on using young players and only extending those whom the team knows will produce. There's far less risk in using a player through his rookie contract and then letting him go on to greener pastures than there is in signing a free agent or re-signing a current player and hoping they improve. After four years in the league, even young players reveal enough for the player personnel folks to determine said player's ceiling.

For instance, Brandon Rush showed great promise toward the end of the season but he was certainly inconsistent at best throughout the year. This year expectations have increased and his game should continue to show improvement at both ends of the floor. By year four, it should be obvious whether or not the Pacers should extend him. But until then, at least the team is getting production from the pick at a relatively inexpensive rate. This is a tricky balancing act to deal with human beings of varied emotional and physical growth while at the same time being forced to consider the financial bottom line.

The second highlight from Bird's comments was his effusive praise for Tyler Hansbrough, the lunch-pail packing power forward from North Carolina whose work ethic everybody loves but whose NBA game is suspect. He seems to be a conservative pick who wouldn't hurt a team but may not help it much, either. Now I don't profess to know how Larry Bird thinks, but this seems like a smokescreen of the highest order. Based on all of the players the team brought in for workouts, it seems obvious that the front office wouldn't mind moving back in the draft. Plus, the team rarely talks openly about a prime target. In fact, I'd be less surprised if the Pacers selected a player they didn't even bring in for workouts, say Earl Clark.

At this stage in the draft game, the goal is to misinform and drive up the value of players you don't covet while minimizing the value to those you do. When taking that mind set into consideration, I'd say Larry Bird had a pretty successful press conference yesterday.

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Linked over at TrueHoop, from "Atthehive"im sure alot of you have seen it, but nice article on how Rebounding translates from college to pros. HEELLLLOOO DAJUAANNN BLAIRR
http://www.atthehive.com/2009/6/21/920554/the-rebound-guy?ref=yahoo

by captain flitzy on Jun 23, 2009 9:31 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Even crazier Blair numbers

http://www.basketballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=580

This is the main reason I’ve drooled over this guy for a while now. This article shows how amazing his rebounding has actually been. They use rebounding percentage as the most useful stat, essentiall what percentage of potential offensive rebounds did you get. As a sneak peak, Blair got 25%. That number is indeed as crazy as it sounds. In fact, he got a higher percentage of his teams misses than 7 entire teams did. The closest any player since 2005 has been is 18%. Blair also got 30% of the defensive rebounds while on the court.

Anyways, I think Blair is still my top choice is he’s available at 13.

And while I hadn’t thought of it, you’re probably right CR in that Bird said way too many good things about Hansbrough to actually choose him. No way do you drool that much over a player you want to draft.

"If you don't [draft me], I promise you I'll come back and kick your ass for the next 15 years."

by psvirsky on Jun 23, 2009 9:57 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Everyone knows

You have to be either high or heavily medicated not to realize that Larry is deploying a smokescreen with Hansbrough. I think the fact he didn’t say Dejuan Blair so enthusiastically is because he as expected wanted to conceal his true feelings. There is no way Larry would even THINK of getting Tyler H. at 13, if anything he could trade one of our big men (Murphy) for another late first rounder and snag him too. I want this for sure.

1. If Brandon Jennings falls, take him

2. But Larry BETTER TAKE DEJAUN BLAIR TOO.

3. Look at a swing man or another guard or big (if Patty Mills were available take him he’s gonna be a star, take someone like Taj Gibson or Jon Brockman or even antiher scoring guard like Jack Mcclinton or Toney Douglas)

4. Enjoy the playoffs for the next 5 years!!!!!! (well sorta you get the point)

This draft may not be as strong but that doesn’t mean our drat has to weak too, we could land someone hopefully that makes an immediate impact (Dejuan Blair please) and bump us into the postseason next year……. i can’t wait till draft night!!!!!

GO PACERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by indikid24 on Jun 24, 2009 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

AGREED ... LARRY HAD A GREAT NEWS CONFRENCE

He said nothing … just like Donnie …. he didn’t tip his hand and that is how it’s supposed to be done … I’m sold if Larry is our GM for the next 3 years we will be a top contender again in the East. …

I see Brandon Jennings coming through the smoke …. but that’s only if Blair’s gone …. Blair is Anthony Mason or Charles Barkely re-invented but hopefully without all the baggage ….

by Man of Pace on Jun 23, 2009 10:42 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Agree on

Blair or Jennings

Either guy will make me very happy with the direction of the franchise.

I worry its Hansboro,Maynor or Henderson though.

" Tell me something Steve, How does a guy from Puerto Rico loose a ball in the Sun? "

by aaronb on Jun 23, 2009 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Depends on what the Pacers ultimate goal is

I really hate to see Larry Bird make statements about 3-4 year college kids. It makes me think he is woefully unsuited for his job.

If the goal is to sit in the 35-42 win range every year and hope you make the back end of the playoffs. Then that is a sound strategy.

If the goal is to compete for Championships, and bring back the old Pacer “Glory”. Then you can’t live in the past with your concepts.

Bottom line, is that you cannot stay in the middle in the NBA. If you are going to be bad (Like the pacers have been for 4 years now). Then bottom out. Trade you older assets (jeff foster, for instance) clear cap room. And horde any and all assets you can find.

You simply cannot win without dynamic players in the NBA. And picking 23 year old guys from 11-17 every year is never a strategy to winning an NBA title. It’s a recipe for more of the same.

" Tell me something Steve, How does a guy from Puerto Rico loose a ball in the Sun? "

by aaronb on Jun 23, 2009 11:08 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Picking 22 year old guys at 17 has worked for the Pacers recently :]

Not as useful as Rated-R Superstar, but, hey!, I stick my Grease watching to once a weekend.

by rollonubears on Jun 23, 2009 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Once

People win the lottery every day in America. But spending your pension checks on Scratch off tickets doesn’t mean it’s a sound retirement policy.

I’m not trying to be a debbie downer about our prospects. I just want to see a coherent plan to make this franchise be something more than a 35-42 win club. I hate that it seems to be the grand target since 2005.

If we would have tore down and rebuilt right then, like we should have. We would already be back where we are now. Only with a roster of younger, and more exciting players.

" Tell me something Steve, How does a guy from Puerto Rico loose a ball in the Sun? "

by aaronb on Jun 23, 2009 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good writeup

This is certainly one way of looking at the current draft possibilities, that the Pacers can’t afford to draft high risk/high reward right now, since they ultimately feel they can get into the playoffs this year..

I would love for Jennings to come through the smoke, but these little number articles on Blair has me maybe second guessing my original stance on him. Hmm. We’ll see. It is certainly interesting to compare these numbers to the highlight videos of Blair and he’s ALWAYS there with the put back.

by goodlucksaturday on Jun 23, 2009 11:33 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Did Larry Bird get stung by a bee

or is his face always that poofy?

by Aisander D on Jun 23, 2009 12:25 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Terrifying Statement in the Indy Star today

We may keep Daniels. Biggest waste of money ever. No backup is worth 7.5 million dollars.

"I saw a commercial on late night TV, it said,'Forget everything you know about slipcovers.' So I did. And it was a load off my mind. Then the commercial tried to sell me slipcovers, and I didn't know what the hell they were."
-Mitch Hedberg

by Colts Homer on Jun 23, 2009 2:19 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

and im depressed

I will be very happy or depressed this off season….

by dbcb on Jun 23, 2009 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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