For One Night At Least, Pacers' Young Players Earned Their Time
Look at that box score.
For one night at least, Jim O'Brien let the Pacers' young players run wild. Granted it was almost by default with Troy Murphy, Tyler Hansbrough and Jeff Foster out and Mike Dunleavy and T.J. Ford playing like they had nothing in the tank.
But still, while the Memphis Grizzlies were methodically rolling along to a victory, at least we saw some energy and effort out of the bench. Even a couple of career games with Luther Head and Roy Hibbert showing up big. Brandon Rush also played a solid second half and continues to shoot the ball well. Still not aggressive enough, but at least some shots are falling.
Essentially, the young guys made this game watchable in the second half and no doubt kept the crowd at Conseco engaged to see what they could do. Hopefully this will be a trend for the rest of the year. If the vets don't have it, turn it over to the bench and let the youngs guys finish things off.
If nothing else, it might shake up a roster that needs to be shaken. Mike Wells had a quote from Dahntay Jones that I hope is an indication of a wakeup call.
"We have to assess ourselves and be honest," he (Jones) said. "Certain people are not fighting as hard as others. We have to find a way to bring it every night."
Maybe seeing the way the young guys played together and the reaction they received from the crowd, a crowd starved for effort, energy and teamwork, will impact the vets. Whether that reaction is good or bad, I don't care, just some type of reaction. Beg for a trade. Complain about playing time. Better yet, step up and lead and show some enthusiasm when a good play is made. Show a pulse and some indication that your invested or get out of the way.
Doesn't seem like too much to ask.
After the jump, a bundle of links from the game last night.
- Box Score
- AP Report: Gay, Grizzlies hand Pacers 8th straight loss
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PACERS.com: Inside the Game report
The starters vs. bench numbers continue to mount into confounding differentials regardless of who starts. -
Hibbert, Head lead rally as Pacers starters sit
Mike Wells reports on the loss and Jim O'Brien finally giving in and letting the young players play heavy minutes in place of his unproductive veterans. -
Memphis Grizzlies knock off Indiana Pacers, 121-110
Ronald Tillery reports on the win for the Griz as the team has turned it around, they're now lamenting some wins they let slip away earlier in the season. -
Pacers Notebook: Murphy, Hansbrough miss game with injury and illness
Sounds like Murph will be out through the weekend games. Also, Tinsley is figuring out this whole team thing now that he's back in the league. -
Game #31 Recap: Points? Check. Good FG%? Check. Boards? Check. Defense? Not So Much
Jared Wade recaps the loss last night which certainly can't be blamed on the offense. -
Postgame: Grizzlies 121, Pacers 110
Ronald Tillery wraps things up for Memphis including Jamaal Tinsley enjoying his team's win in the face of the boos he heard. -
Pacers Insider: O'Brien sends a message
Mighty Mike blogs about the youth movement JOB went with last night and the lack of playing chemistry with the team. -
Grizzlies Win Ugly in Indiana | 3 Shades of Blue
Matthew Noe recaps the Griz side of things ove at 3 Shades of Blue. -
SB Nation's NBA Power Rankings: Beware The Rising Cavaliers
...and the sinking Pacers. Mike Prada offers up SB Nation's latest power rankings with the Pacers checking in at 29. Thank you, Nets! -
Advanced Stat Talk: What XeFG% from the Bulls Game Tells Us About Indy’s Offensive Futility
Tim Donahue goes to extraordinary lengths to verify that the Pacers don't shoot very well. Raises the interesting point that if the team is getting shots where they'd like them but the shots aren't falling, who's to blame other than the shooters. I recall JOB expecting the shooting percentages to comeback at some point, and when the team won a couple of games, surprise, they made shots. But this is getting ridiculous.
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Finally,
the bottom is on its way. Congrats to JOB and Larry for finally admitting that the cast they’ve assembled is not good enough to win anything of consequence in the NBA.
Keep playing McRoberts, Rush, Hibbert, Price and Hansrough. In fact I wouldn’t mind seeing this as the starting 5 for the rest of the season. Challenge these guys to battle another teams starters every night and see what they do.
Agreed
I’ve been hoping we would “go young” and develope the young guys. I don’t think it’s tanking either. It’s being smart and preparing for the future. If we end up with a high draft pick at years end, bonus! Why play all these bridge players who aren’t gonna be here in two years? That just doesn’t make sense to me. At least the young guys play with a little heart too. Let’s hope coach sees the light.
Confucious say "He who dives for loose balls need proper fitting athletic cup!"
by Wise Master on Dec 31, 2009 10:15 AM EST up reply actions
I was expecting Jones to say something eventually…. he isn’t the type of player to sit back and be quiet when others aren’t giving full effort.
I am going to be the one fan who doesn’t want to see the Pacers tank I guess. Too proud to watch my tea give up I guess… even if it “might” (the lottery is no sure thing) be the best thing for the future. But even if we end up with a top 5 pick, if Bird and Obrien and Co. are still around I have no faith they would do anything worth as hit with the pick anyway. Probably draft Wall and trade him for a college senior, a back up point guard, and a white guy.
luther
i can’t imagine why it has taken JOB so long to give luther playing time. he had proven himself effective in houston and miami (before he got hurt), and he always played well for the the pacers when he was on the floor. i would like to see him get time at the point as well. he doesn’t over dribble like tj but is a great ball handler, is a much better off the dribble and screens than earl, and plays better d than both. he’s just ALWAYS moving, which is great to watch. love that guy, always have since his illinois days-
What has happened to the proud Pacers org
a Hawks fan here, who spent some time in Indiana during another life.
I am so sad to see Pacers struggle and frankly, lack the type of talent that can make them competitive in NBA. Granger is a stud, but besides him, other than Ford, I see a lack of talent on this team. Murphy is a solid NBA player, not sure about starting, and the rookie from North Carolina in time, may aspire to be like Murphy.
Otherwise it is tough. Could one incident (fight in Detroit) that was not even Pacer’s fault, have contributed to the dismantling of a talented team that were the Pacers? I see players like Harrington, O’neal, Tinsley, Artest, Jackson still be key contributors. I remember the big guy Smets and of-course Reggie. Why did Pacers get rid of all these star players? was it financial? Was it Larry trying to build his own team? Larry is a legend, but sometimes legendary players don’t make good GMs (Majic and Jordan are key examples). I know Billy Knight who put us together in ATL is available, You all should consider him as your GM. If I remember correct, Billy was a star player for Pacers, and though he is different, he has an eye for talent, that simply is not there with Larry the Legend.
It is so sad to see the Pacers, but you all have to start with the man on top and start from there. Billy is available.
Smits- retired
Reggie- retired
Tinsley- Horrible off the court problems (guns, strip clubs, ect) + he was always hurt. He got benched a whole year and then cut. And judging by his production this year, he isn’t a star player.
Artest- Went into the stands and got suspended the whole year. Fans supported him anyway, came back the next year and turned his back on all of us. Had absolutely no trade value (I guess) and was traded for Peja and then Peja left.
Jackson- More off the court problems, plus he isn’t very good anyway. All the fans hated him, he had to be traded. NOt really much of a loss except that it unfortunately brough Murphy and Dunleavy’s bad contracts back.
Harrington- A bad signing… just didn’t fit the team. He had to go with Jackson just to make salaries work.
O’neal- Couldn’t stay healthy and cost too much. Couldn’t make it five days without getting hurt. Traded to get rid of his contract, get a draft pick and fill our PG hole. unfortunately… TJ ford sucks but it gave us Hibbert.
What I wouldn't give...
to have Jared Bayless instead of Brandon Rush right now…
by return2greatness on Dec 31, 2009 4:39 PM EST reply actions












