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The words were concise, the frustration was apparent and the mood was palpable even back in her in snow-covered Indiana.

After the Indiana Pacers suffered a 114-80 defeat, its worst loss of the season, to the Heat on Sunday, players and coaches attempted to put the story in their own words. Troy Murphy called it "a piss-poor effort", coach Jim O'Brien answered questions about his team quitting on him and his staff, and T.J. Ford was trying to keep his friends by not pointing any fingers.

That's what happens after your team allows the opposition to play dunking games during an NBA contest. As Mike Wells notes in his blog, the Heat slammed home the basketball 13 times last night, and eventually began tallying the count from the sidelines as players tried to outdo one another on each possession. The fun didn't make its way over to the Pacers bench.

Dahntay Jones, who along with starter Earl Watson, were part of the a terrible tandem in the backcourt that went scoreless and missed all four shot attempts in 33 minutes of play. Wells reported that Jones sat alone in the locker room long after his teammates had retreated to the team bus. Sounds like a wonderful time.

Here's what O'Brien had to say after Wells asked if the team had quit on him: "Certainly after getting beat this badly that's a very legitimate question. I thought we competed when we got behind (against Atlanta). We competed when we got behind tonight. After that everybody played bad basketball. I don't know if we have enough speed in our starting line up. Clearly we are not getting it done. The last couple of games we have not scored well. We need to continue to re-evaluate everything."

Check out more links after the jump.

Star-divide

  • Box Score
  • NBA.com Recap
  • AP Story
  • The Pacers Inside the Game post looks into the ineptness of Indiana's starting lineup as for the second game in a row, Troy Murphy was the only starter in double figures. He scored 16 points on 5-of-12 shooting, but missed four of eight free throws and pulled just two rebounds, which he should be able to do in his sleep. Apparently, this game was a nightmare for him. The rest of the starters combined to produce 10 points on 4-of-19 shooting while committing 12 turnovers.
  • Mike Wells recaps the game for the Indianapolis Star.
  • In his game notebook, Wells gives us an update on Danny Granger, who did some light shooting on the court this weekend for the first time since being shut down. Unfortunately, Wells notes that there is still no timetable for a time when DG will start running and exercising on the court.
  • The Miami Herald gives the perspective from South Beach. Check out other Miami looks into this one from the Palm Beach Post and the Peninsula Is Mightier.
  • For one of the other inept teams of the Central Division, they are going to get a coaching change. The Bulls are ready to dump Vinny Del Negro, according to ESPN.
  • Also from ESPN, the Daily Dime names the backcourt duo of Earl Watson and Dahntay Jones as the worst of the weekend.


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Keep telling me the coach is not the problem ...

Who is the starting PG?

Who is the starting Center?

Who is the 6th man?

What do you call a motion offense that stagnates?

I could not imagine anything being more disappointing than what the Colts did to throw yesterday’s game. The Pacer’s topped it!!!

People around me are callnig for Polian’s head ….. and no one here is calling for JOB or a trade or anything …..

Lets all be patient and wait for them to leave town.

by Man of Pace on Dec 28, 2009 10:32 AM EST reply actions  

These guys are supposed to be professional basketball players. I don’t understand how a team can look so bad consistently.

I’m pretty happy that I live in Atlanta and cannot watch the games.

Not sure what’s going on with this team, but it seems like they’ve quit on JOB. DJ was playing some terrific basketball early in the season. What happened to the guy? Dunleavy needs to sit out games. I don’t think it’s all conditioning, and I don’t want the guy to get hurt again.

by Sparhawk on Dec 28, 2009 11:15 AM EST reply actions  

You're lucky

Last night was bad! I swear to god we looked like the Washington Generals last night as the Heat ran a dunking exhibition on us in the 3rd quarter. It was embarrasing, and an all time low point for the franchise (on basketball related stuff). JOB has to go. It may not help the team, but it will shake things up and hold someone accountable for this bad product were witnessing.

Confucious say "He who dives for loose balls need proper fitting athletic cup!"

by Wise Master on Dec 28, 2009 11:27 AM EST up reply actions  

Obrien has lost the team and even before he did he can’t coach worth a shit anyway.

Thanks Larry for the great hire… and then a GREAT extension! woot!

this is depressing.. when is granger coming back?

by dbcb on Dec 28, 2009 12:36 PM EST reply actions  

Owners need to step in...

The players have obviously quit on JOB. Larry Bird has either decided to quit at the year’s end (as previously rumored – and has started gearing down early) or is is showing for sure that he is not anything like executive material! Regardless, ownership needs to step in and at the ver least fire JOB, if not Larry Bird too!

by FortWayneKarl on Dec 28, 2009 12:52 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Come on Guys!

You’re supposed to love this team unconditionally and trust everything that is done is for the best. Just hold out two more years people keep saying. Just wait, be patient. Bird has a plan.

by ThirtyOne on Dec 28, 2009 1:07 PM EST reply actions  

Baloney!

Bird is not cutting it. JOB is not cutting it. You can’t fire all the players. This is probably the worst Pacers team ever. Why should these 2 keep their jobs???

by FortWayneKarl on Dec 28, 2009 1:40 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Sorry,

My sarcasm didn’t come through well.

by ThirtyOne on Dec 28, 2009 1:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Sorry...

Now, I understand your sarcasm, sorry! :)

by FortWayneKarl on Dec 28, 2009 1:59 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

My fanhood to the Pacers is unconditional

Watching us get clowned on is starting to get ridiculous. JOB is the easiest thing to change to bring a sense of urgency. I don’t cry over “what if draftpicks”, but quitting, that’s different.

Confucious say "He who dives for loose balls need proper fitting athletic cup!"

by Wise Master on Dec 28, 2009 4:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Playing

Even if we’ve quit on the coach, at least we kept playing. What the colts did on the other hand is a disgrace.

by indy62 on Dec 28, 2009 1:42 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

If the Pacers...

If the Pitiful Pacers (in another universe, obviously) dropped to 14-1, due to a bad coaching decision, you’d still just have to be mildly upset compared to the 10 or more bad coaching decisions being made every game by JOB.

by FortWayneKarl on Dec 28, 2009 2:08 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

If only we can get Cole Aldridge or Luke Harangody.

Then we’d really have something to build with.

" Tell me something Steve, How does a guy from Puerto Rico loose a ball in the Sun? "

by aaronb on Dec 28, 2009 2:08 PM EST reply actions  

Lol

Confucious say "He who dives for loose balls need proper fitting athletic cup!"

by Wise Master on Dec 28, 2009 4:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Our team is a joke

There is absolutely no reason to watch this team right now. Wow I’m embarrased to be a fan of this club. I don’t know who’s at fault for terrible product but there has to be more than wait until contracts end and hope to overacheive until then. JOB needs to be fired shake things up. Bryon Scott is available.

by HoosierHoops14 on Dec 28, 2009 2:17 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Sorry,

that’s what we’re being told. Just wait till these contracts come off the books and we have all this money to throw at………….(chirping crickets)………..ummm. I guess we should all just stop being fans and stop attending games until these contracts come off the books as well. Seems like our only retaliation. Since I live in Kansas I can’t stop attending games that I’m already not going to, but I can refuse to spend another dime on Pacers merchandise.

by ThirtyOne on Dec 28, 2009 3:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Not much choice unless someone bites on Murphy

We have really bad contracts. Just a fact. JOB is all that can be done barring some retarded GM trading for some of them. Fire JOB….at least it’s something. As for contract issues, the NBA needs to go with the NFL style non-guarranteed contracts, an issue I hope the owners take up in the next CBA.

Confucious say "He who dives for loose balls need proper fitting athletic cup!"

by Wise Master on Dec 28, 2009 4:39 PM EST up reply actions  

FYI breaking news

Indianapolis Star – Mike Wells – ‎47 minutes ago‎
CHICAGO – Indiana Pacers president Larry Bird has a message for those screaming for a coaching change: Jim O’Brien will not be fired. …

by Man of Pace on Dec 28, 2009 2:33 PM EST reply actions  

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