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Starters Continue To Get Outplayed, Outscored During Losing Streak

They are the players that set the tone. From start to finish, the players who get their names called under the bright lights and rip off their warm-ups first are there for a reason. To compete and get the team off to a good start.

For the Indiana Pacers, the starting lineup is not getting the job done.

In the six-game losing streak, which increased last night after a 102-91 loss to the Blazers, the starters have been outscored 443-314, an average deficit of 21.5 per game. Seven players have cycled in and out of the starting gig during those six games. The culprits? Let's see the lineup: Danny Granger (five games), T.J. Ford (6), Dahntay Jones (4), Brandon Rush (3), Troy Murphy (6), Roy Hibbert (4) and Jeff Foster (2). The starters were outscored 72-51 last night, and it didn't help that the unit gave up the tied game that the bench climbed back for midway through the fourth. As Tom pointed out during his recap, Brandon Roy probably would have destroyed the bench just as well as he pummeled the starters down the stretch. but the starters were there when the possible win waved bye-bye.

With each game, it's taken an unsung bench player to keep the Pacers within striking distance and keep hope alive. It was rookies Tyler Hansbrough and A.J. Price last night. On other nights, Earl Watson and Mike Dunleavy have stepped up.

Coach Jim O'Brien commended his second unit after Thursday's loss: "I thought they played with a great deal of energy and gave us good tempo. I thought A.J. (Price) did a real good job for us. He's played at a very high level in practice and he's a very mature user of the pick and roll and he's a guy that can shoot the three off the pick and roll."

It's very difficult, as we've seen, to win in the NBA when your starters are treated by opponents like a JV squad and your bench is spending all of its energy trying to claw back into a hopeless game. For the starters, a possible quick cure is arriving at Conseco "Reggie Miller" Fieldhouse on Friday -- the Nets. More links after the jump.

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Don't chalk the Nets up as an easy win

They have Harris and Lee back now, and they are playing hard and with passion. Probably the coaching change helped spark the teams new found intensity! They know they’re playing for a spot in the teams future. They are also playing their young players, which we should do before long (see my post on the last blog). A new coach will play who those who choose to dive for loose balls, scrap on D, and guys who are in our future plans. Not the “my jobs on the line coaching” were witnessing with JOB…it won’t be long till Lester Conner is at the helm.

by Rush Rules!!! on Dec 10, 2009 9:09 AM EST reply actions  

John Wall

is single handedly making this Pacers season exciting for me. I really would like to see us rest Danny until he’s 150 percent (2-3 months) and take our chances with the lottery. This kids for real and the only way we could ever land someone with that much superstar potential is by the draft. I’m already setting my money aside to by his home and away jerseys on draft day, yep, that’ll be a good night.

If Youre not First, Youre Last

by drsuessrunner07 on Dec 10, 2009 9:19 AM EST reply actions  

Yes, John Wall is incredible.

More minutes for Psycho T, no?

by Vic De Zen on Dec 10, 2009 9:31 AM EST reply actions  

Wall can definatley play

High ceiling for the kid. Will have to work on dribbling both ways and his jumpshot. But the kid has alot of talent!!

by Rush Rules!!! on Dec 10, 2009 10:38 AM EST reply actions  

I even changed my profile pic to a plate of meat for Rudy Fernandez - and he's hurt!

Plus – I didn’t even get to watch the game.

From everyone’s comments, here are a few things I took away from the game:
-The rookies did well and played solid.
-the second team has been coming in with energy and gets the team back in the game, only to see the 1st team lose it. That’s bothersome, since I’m definitely not the only one to notice this trend…

by Gwen on Dec 10, 2009 11:10 AM EST reply actions  

i love getting the rooks minutes

keep’em coming. i get more excited seeing the potential of our young guys than seeing the lethargy of our vets. tj ford is terrible- petulant child, and his play totally reflects his childish frame of mind.

by BenD on Dec 10, 2009 11:26 AM EST reply actions  

Yeah, TJ must be the nicest guy in the world

I can’t think of any other reason we haven’t benched him. He must be so nice that it has JOB up nights, tossing on his pillow, at just thought of benching TJ “Mr. Congeniality” Ford.

by Rush Rules!!! on Dec 10, 2009 11:45 AM EST reply actions  

I have to agree. JOB’s rotations make it look like he’s coaching for his job and not for the future. If we hadn’t given him that idiotic extension, I have no doubt he’d be gone by now. Unfortunately, if LB cans him, he has to go explain to Mr. Simon why he just wasted a few million dollars on JOB’s golden parachute when the team is strapped as it is.

by indy62 on Dec 10, 2009 1:31 PM EST reply actions  

Hey Indy62

I saw a fat white guy during the Pacers game in LA behind our bench. Was it you? And are you the guy they were talking about who played in the movie “Hoosiers”? If so, great movie! I hope ya got to tell JOB to bench Murph. Lol!

by Rush Rules!!! on Dec 10, 2009 8:15 PM EST reply actions  

Hey! So I put on a few extra pounds. So what?

Yeah. It was me.

I did yell at JOB to bench murph. But not real loud. I did yell put Hibbert back in the game real loud. JOB ignored me, but Roy turned around and looked at me like “yeah, WTF? why don’t coach put me back in?”

by indy62 on Dec 11, 2009 1:06 AM EST up reply actions  

That's awesome man, that movie is huge around here

“Were running the ole picket fence boys, and don’t get caught watching the paint dry.” …great Dennis Hopper line! The other great line, “I won’t miss coach.” …You’ve gained a couple pounds, but hell, so have I. Don’t feel bad. Good to know your a big blue and gold fan! …that’s hilarious about Hibbert, he’s just the kinda guy to engage with a fan after a comment like that. That’s great. Good to see ya down here on the boards, your comments are always rooted in basketball knowledge.

by Rush Rules!!! on Dec 11, 2009 3:48 AM EST up reply actions  

Pacers have been watching a lot of dry paint lately.

by Tom Lewis on Dec 11, 2009 4:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Correction Indy62

The 2nd great line was from Jimmy Chitwood (you) “I’ll make it!” I had to pull out the CD and double check. Lol!

by Rush Rules!!! on Dec 11, 2009 4:07 PM EST reply actions  

I wasn’t in the movie Hoosiers. I thought you were just joking, just now realized you were serious…. Good movie though.

by indy62 on Dec 11, 2009 7:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Right on man

There was a guy who was a bit heavy with a beard in Pacers gear behind the bench, and Chris Denari said it was the guy who played Jimmy Chitwood in “Hoosiers.” I had remembered you saying you were gonna be at the game and thought it might have been you. My bad.

by Rush Rules!!! on Dec 12, 2009 4:14 PM EST up reply actions  

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