Starters Continue To Get Outplayed, Outscored During Losing Streak
They are the players that set the tone. From start to finish, the players who get their names called under the bright lights and rip off their warm-ups first are there for a reason. To compete and get the team off to a good start.
For the Indiana Pacers, the starting lineup is not getting the job done.
In the six-game losing streak, which increased last night after a 102-91 loss to the Blazers, the starters have been outscored 443-314, an average deficit of 21.5 per game. Seven players have cycled in and out of the starting gig during those six games. The culprits? Let's see the lineup: Danny Granger (five games), T.J. Ford (6), Dahntay Jones (4), Brandon Rush (3), Troy Murphy (6), Roy Hibbert (4) and Jeff Foster (2). The starters were outscored 72-51 last night, and it didn't help that the unit gave up the tied game that the bench climbed back for midway through the fourth. As Tom pointed out during his recap, Brandon Roy probably would have destroyed the bench just as well as he pummeled the starters down the stretch. but the starters were there when the possible win waved bye-bye.
With each game, it's taken an unsung bench player to keep the Pacers within striking distance and keep hope alive. It was rookies Tyler Hansbrough and A.J. Price last night. On other nights, Earl Watson and Mike Dunleavy have stepped up.
Coach Jim O'Brien commended his second unit after Thursday's loss: "I thought they played with a great deal of energy and gave us good tempo. I thought A.J. (Price) did a real good job for us. He's played at a very high level in practice and he's a very mature user of the pick and roll and he's a guy that can shoot the three off the pick and roll."
It's very difficult, as we've seen, to win in the NBA when your starters are treated by opponents like a JV squad and your bench is spending all of its energy trying to claw back into a hopeless game. For the starters, a possible quick cure is arriving at Conseco "Reggie Miller" Fieldhouse on Friday -- the Nets. More links after the jump.
- AP Story
- Box Score
- Photo Gallery
- NBA.com Recap
- Pacers.com dishes out the quotes and +/- in the latest Inside the Game edition. We'll let guard Dahntay Jones explain this one: "We had a problem with the pick and roll and did not defend very well against it. Couldn't stop it. We've go to learn to finish the ball game a little better. So it's back to the drawing board and get this thing turned around. Losing is not fun." Jones scored a team-high 19 points, but only put two through the hoop in the final 18 minutes of play.
- Mike Wells recaps the game as he notes that the Pacers are definitely one All-Star short of competing with the likes of Brandon Roy and the Blazers.
- IndyStar columnist Bob Kravitz says that Danny Granger's injury has given the greenlight for Brandon Rush and that we'll know now if he's a bust or not. Kravitz extended his streak of mentioning Shawne Williams in a Pacers-related column to a career-high 25 consecutive pieces.
- John Oehser covered the game for his Examiner page.
- Here are some previews to the Blazers-Pacers matchup that were posted yesterday: Eight Points, Nine Seconds and Always Miller Time.
- Wells posted on his Pacers Insider page about the great game for rookie A.J. Price.
- SB Nation's Blazers Edge had the game covered from the enemy's perspective. Rip City Project also chimed in with a recap and Jason Quick covered the game for The Oregonian.
- And as the Pacers continue to increase their chances of getting lucky in the lottery, check out the recap of John Wall's performance against UConn last night. Oh yeah, we're already there.
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Don't chalk the Nets up as an easy win
They have Harris and Lee back now, and they are playing hard and with passion. Probably the coaching change helped spark the teams new found intensity! They know they’re playing for a spot in the teams future. They are also playing their young players, which we should do before long (see my post on the last blog). A new coach will play who those who choose to dive for loose balls, scrap on D, and guys who are in our future plans. Not the “my jobs on the line coaching” were witnessing with JOB…it won’t be long till Lester Conner is at the helm.
John Wall
is single handedly making this Pacers season exciting for me. I really would like to see us rest Danny until he’s 150 percent (2-3 months) and take our chances with the lottery. This kids for real and the only way we could ever land someone with that much superstar potential is by the draft. I’m already setting my money aside to by his home and away jerseys on draft day, yep, that’ll be a good night.
If Youre not First, Youre Last
by drsuessrunner07 on Dec 10, 2009 9:19 AM EST reply actions
Wall can definatley play
High ceiling for the kid. Will have to work on dribbling both ways and his jumpshot. But the kid has alot of talent!!
I even changed my profile pic to a plate of meat for Rudy Fernandez - and he's hurt!
Plus – I didn’t even get to watch the game.
From everyone’s comments, here are a few things I took away from the game:
-The rookies did well and played solid.
-the second team has been coming in with energy and gets the team back in the game, only to see the 1st team lose it. That’s bothersome, since I’m definitely not the only one to notice this trend…
i love getting the rooks minutes
keep’em coming. i get more excited seeing the potential of our young guys than seeing the lethargy of our vets. tj ford is terrible- petulant child, and his play totally reflects his childish frame of mind.
Yeah, TJ must be the nicest guy in the world
I can’t think of any other reason we haven’t benched him. He must be so nice that it has JOB up nights, tossing on his pillow, at just thought of benching TJ “Mr. Congeniality” Ford.
I have to agree. JOB’s rotations make it look like he’s coaching for his job and not for the future. If we hadn’t given him that idiotic extension, I have no doubt he’d be gone by now. Unfortunately, if LB cans him, he has to go explain to Mr. Simon why he just wasted a few million dollars on JOB’s golden parachute when the team is strapped as it is.
Hey Indy62
I saw a fat white guy during the Pacers game in LA behind our bench. Was it you? And are you the guy they were talking about who played in the movie “Hoosiers”? If so, great movie! I hope ya got to tell JOB to bench Murph. Lol!
Hey! So I put on a few extra pounds. So what?
Yeah. It was me.
I did yell at JOB to bench murph. But not real loud. I did yell put Hibbert back in the game real loud. JOB ignored me, but Roy turned around and looked at me like “yeah, WTF? why don’t coach put me back in?”
That's awesome man, that movie is huge around here
“Were running the ole picket fence boys, and don’t get caught watching the paint dry.” …great Dennis Hopper line! The other great line, “I won’t miss coach.” …You’ve gained a couple pounds, but hell, so have I. Don’t feel bad. Good to know your a big blue and gold fan! …that’s hilarious about Hibbert, he’s just the kinda guy to engage with a fan after a comment like that. That’s great. Good to see ya down here on the boards, your comments are always rooted in basketball knowledge.
by Rush Rules!!! on Dec 11, 2009 3:48 AM EST up reply actions
Correction Indy62
The 2nd great line was from Jimmy Chitwood (you) “I’ll make it!” I had to pull out the CD and double check. Lol!
I wasn’t in the movie Hoosiers. I thought you were just joking, just now realized you were serious…. Good movie though.
Right on man
There was a guy who was a bit heavy with a beard in Pacers gear behind the bench, and Chris Denari said it was the guy who played Jimmy Chitwood in “Hoosiers.” I had remembered you saying you were gonna be at the game and thought it might have been you. My bad.
by Rush Rules!!! on Dec 12, 2009 4:14 PM EST up reply actions

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