Nuggets 111, Pacers 93: Pacers Still Searching For First Win
The Denver Nuggets are a really good NBA team.
In fact, the Nuggets didn't play particularly well and were held to just 43% shooting but had plenty of firepower left to cruise to a 111-93 victory over the Indiana Pacers.
The Pacers margin of error against teams like the Nuggets is razor thin, so opening the first quarter shooting in the low 20's from the floor and scoring just 13 points is too much to overcome. For the third straight game, the Pacers ran into a playoff-caliber team and didn't play at a high enough level to compete for a win.
No time to panic, right? The Pacers aren't playing great, but they've played good teams, so these losses are simply a case of teams that are ready to win now taking advantage of a Pacers team that is still trying to figure out how to play together and find their offensive stride.
You buyin' that?
Me neither.
There is a genuine problem with the way the Pacers are currently playing that goes beyond new faces in new places taking on new roles. Passion and pride are merely words on a Fieldhouse banner, instead of evident in the team that plays there.
You can pull out positive numbers like Roy Hibbert's double-double with four blocks or Dahntay Jones' 20 points off the bench.
You can point to more bad luck, with Troy Murphy going down in the first half and not returning to the game because of a bruised back. Or the poor shooting night of Danny Granger. Just one of those nights...again.
But something else is missing. There's not enough fight on the court. No one is taking charge of the situation or even trying to right the ship when they drift off course. The body language exudes defeated instead of determined.
The leaders seem frustrated (join the club!) but showing frustration isn't leading. We all know things aren't going well. You're not intending to miss shots or turn the ball over or foul repeatedly. Instead of trying to show that you care, how about doing something about it. Change the tone in the locker room, in the huddle and on the floor.
T.J. Ford in particular has disappointed in this role. I'm sure he wasn't happy with his playing time in the first two games, but giving a half smile and a shake of the head doesn't make things better. Against the Nuggets, foul trouble kept Ford on the bench, but when he returned for winning time in the fourth quarter frustration quickly led to two more fouls and game over for Ford. The starting point guard.
Some teams look at the starting point guard as the team's quarterback, the floor general, the straw that stirs the drink. The Pacers are getting none of that out of T.J. on the floor. We've seen this type of situation sour before, so watching how Ford reacts over the next couple of weeks should be interesting.
Danny Granger struggled big time against the Nuggs and it has become clear that Granger's production is directly tied to how well the Pacers run their offense. Needless to say it didn't run well tonight. Simply not enough ball and player movement to even classify what the Pacers did in the halfcourt as an offense. Granger in particular doesn't do well starting with the ball and trying to make a play. He's much better catching and shooting off the move. When the offense bogs down and the dribbling increases no one is in rhythm and the clanks come out at night.
As a team, the Pacers had 13 measly assists. No ball movement, no assists, no easy buckets.
So how bad will it get before we see some signs of life?
Check back tomorrow. The Pacers visit the New York Knicks who won't be mistaken for the Hawks, Heat or Nuggets anytime this year. But forget the opponent for a moment. The Pacers desperately need to unveil some of that passion and pride and look for a solution to their losing ways.
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Ugh
I hate to be a kiljoy, but Stevie Wonder saw this season coming.
The worst part is that there will be RFA’s galore this offseason. Yet “investments” in guys like Dhantay Jones will probably be just expensive enough to keep they Pacers away from getting a young guy with actual upside.
My only fear at this point is that Larry Bird will still be here and we will use our top 4 lotto pick on Cole Aldridge or Luke Harangody.
I live in Memphis and I hate that fact that they have twice the roster that we have. Both in present talent and future upside.
Where have you gone George Irvine? Pacer Nation turns its lonely eyes to you…..
" Tell me something Steve, How does a guy from Puerto Rico loose a ball in the Sun? "
by aaronb on Nov 3, 2009 11:46 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
I completely agree
Given that our team is undertalented we can somewhat expect to loose to high caliber playoff teams, but what really upsets me is the lack of competitive play. I mean at points we looked like a JV team out there. Last year’s team had a lot of heart, this year I’m not so sure that same heart is there. Players aren’t holding each other responsible for mistakes and no one, not even Granger, has stepped up to be the leader of this team. I think the whole play on the court can’t only be blamed on the players or lack of time playing together (they’ve had all summer) but a lot of it has to be on the coaching. Sorry to say it but if something doesn’t change internally on this team we’ll be sailing straight to the lottery again.
by HoosierHoops14 on Nov 3, 2009 11:48 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Flawed construction
The problem seems to me that this roster has been built completely backwards.
Most good teams bottom out and hope to win the lottery or clear cap room to get major pieces.
This team seems to have been built from guys 9-15, instead of getting 3 great players and filling in the holes.
A pickup like Dhantay Jones is something that a contender does to fill in a final piece to a puzzle. Not something a lottery team does in giving a 30 year old a 4 year deal to play a one-dimensional role on a 30 win team. I just havent seem exhibit A that Bird is an exec.
Isaiah Thomas was a great player. Doesn’t mean he was equipped to run a team. But at least he drafted guys like Nene, Lee, Robinson etc. Bird has been Isaiah on a shoestring budget.
And his complete reluctance to do a full rebuild has likely put this franchise back at least 5 years. Possibly longer.
" Tell me something Steve, How does a guy from Puerto Rico loose a ball in the Sun? "
You're all just jumping on the Larry Bird is a horrible GM bandwagon...
I’m old school Larry is a horrible GM, but enough about that…
How about John Wall and Donatas Motiejunas!
I'm not sure how many people here would agree that Bird is a good evaluator of talent
We kinda already knew that.
ugh
just saw the highlights on sportscenter. They did show an impressive defensive sequence from Granger on Carmello (blocking a turnaround jumper).
Anyways – any chance they’ve tuned out JOB?
I haven’t been able to watch any games but it seems like the team barely cares and we’re 3 games into the season – that’s pretty bad. How much worse can it get?
"If you don't [draft me], I promise you I'll come back and kick your ass for the next 15 years."
Nice.
Way to call it like it is Tom. I think you’re finally seeing what some of us seen all offseason. Adding role players to a team without an alpha dog seemed ignorant and short sighted at the time and it is proving true on the court. Maybe, people around here will stop hoping that we can squeeze into an 8th playoff seed and get blown out in the first round just so Granger can get some playoff experience. This team needs a bottoming out. That is the only way to even attempt to get the type of players we need to get back to where we were a scant 5 years ago.
The grand experiment
Is it safe to say the caucasion experiment is a failure? We are down to our last white guy and unfortunately he is the least talented of them all. I say we send Damon Bailey to represent the pacers in next years lottery.
I would say
that white or black no one on this team is impressing me so far this season. However, the caucasian dudes are especially injured for some reason. Watch out McRoberts, you’re next.
Its the coaching !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The current roster has shooters, rebounders, defenders.
No leaders
Why?
The coach himself is not a leader. I have never seen a person with as little personality and completely lacking any fire. Does anyone watch the post game interviews
and another thing it mat have been glaring last night because we player Denver but,
There are a few talented players on the team unfortunately The roster has nice guys. I and eveyone else knows that nice guys finish LAST and won’t fight for anything. That is what everyone wanted right? So why then complain when we get whipped by a team of thugs.
























