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Game Thread #3: Denver Nuggets vs. Indiana Pacers

Denver Nuggets at Indiana Pacers, Nov 3, 2009 7:00 PM EST


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Indiana Pacers 
3-00-2
Novermber 3, 2009 - 7:00PM EST
Conseco Fieldhouse
Radio: 1070AM WFNI   TV: Fox Sports Indiana
Probable starters:
Chauncey Billups PG T.J. Ford
Anthony Carter SG Brandon Rush
Carmelo Anthony SF Danny Granger
Kenyon Martin PF Troy Murphy
Nene Hilario C Roy Hibbert

 The Indiana Pacers face a friendly foe in the Fieldhouse tonight with the Denver Nuggets in town for the 7:00PM tip.

The Nuggets and Pacers faced off twice in the preseason during their Asian excursion with each team looking darned good in one game and relatively poor in the other. The Nuggets are off to a strong start at 3-0 and look to be every bit of the Western Conference finalist they were last year. The Pacers meanwhile are still looking for a solid 48 minutes of play.

For a Denver perspective, check out Denver Stiffs.

Leave your thoughts and comments on the game in the comments. After the jump, more on the Nuggs.

Star-divide

As the Pacers are well aware, Carmelo Anthony and Chauncey Billups make the Nuggets go. Melo unleashed a lethal scoring binge on the Pacers in their second preseason game in Beijing, pumping in 45 points in a mere 24 minutes of floor time. It appears that Customs let him return to the States with his combustible offensive game because in the Nuggets' three regular season wins, Melo is averaging over 37 points. I have a feeling Melo bounced out of bed this morning looking forward to meeting the Pacers again in the Fieldhouse tonight.

As for Billups, he's spent many years causing problems for the Pacers. Fortunately now that he's in the Western Conference, those problems only present themselves twice a year. Billups has complimented Melo with 23 points per game. He's also playing a healthy dose of minutes, just over 37 per game, to start the season.

So, suffice it to say, no matter how much the Pacers emphasize their defense tonight, there's going to be a lot of points scored. The Pacers struggled against Miami to generate much offense, but with a few days off they should be fresh and ready to run. And running is the key since we saw against the Heat that the Pacers are still mixing and matching players and struggling to sync up the halfcourt offense.

The Pacers need to lean on the horses with some big production from Danny Granger and Troy Murphy. If Melo is staring at 40, Danny better be staring right back. The Pacers also need to squeeze more out of T.J. Ford, Brandon Rush and Roy Hibbert to combine with the play of Earl Watson and Dahntay Jones off the bench.

All hands on deck making a positive impact. After the first two games, I know that sounds like a novel idea, but team will come together sooner or later, why not tonight? 

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Go Pacers!

I’m ready for tonight. This is a team that we’re familiar with, Jones will be as aggressive as ever and Melo will finally have his first offnight of the season. Get ready for an upset!!

by smits4ever on Nov 3, 2009 5:12 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I hate thinking this

But maybe we should try and get Iverson since he’s not happy sitting and we don’t exactly have any legitimate options at the point.

Eh, maybe it’s too early to think about that, let’s see how they do tonight. Let’s go Pacers!

by goodlucksaturday on Nov 3, 2009 5:52 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Haha

PTI just praised Hansbrough for that commercial, calling it the best on TV. I’m ready to get this guy on the floor to see what he has to offer.

by goodlucksaturday on Nov 3, 2009 5:59 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Twelve seconds in

And Denver’s at the line.

Not the ideal start.

by goodlucksaturday on Nov 3, 2009 7:12 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Great hook by Roy

Take advantage of the mismatch big fella.

by goodlucksaturday on Nov 3, 2009 7:13 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Bwaha

What was that floater by Carter? Full on air ball.

by goodlucksaturday on Nov 3, 2009 7:16 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Oh my

offense is hard to come by. Good defense?

by Tom Lewis on Nov 3, 2009 7:17 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Ugly game so far

Both teams clanking like they’re worth something.

by goodlucksaturday on Nov 3, 2009 7:17 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Except that was a poor call

Roy not getting the benefit on that one for obvious reasons.

by goodlucksaturday on Nov 3, 2009 7:18 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Ooo

bailed out melo there.

by Tom Lewis on Nov 3, 2009 7:18 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Finally went to Danny

He’s not getting involved.

by goodlucksaturday on Nov 3, 2009 7:19 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Good move by Martin

Don’t have the advantage, make it your advantage.

by goodlucksaturday on Nov 3, 2009 7:20 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Another poor call on Roy

No clue how that affected Nene at all…

by goodlucksaturday on Nov 3, 2009 7:22 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Nene

loves the Pacers too.

by Tom Lewis on Nov 3, 2009 7:22 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Not enough ball movement

In my eyes.

Then again, it’s a turnover waiting to happen when they do, so it’s almost lose-lose.

by goodlucksaturday on Nov 3, 2009 7:23 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Nuggs are doing their part

Pacers just can’t take advantage of any Denver mistakes.

by Tom Lewis on Nov 3, 2009 7:26 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

4:32 left in the first, Pacers with 7 points

And down ten. Need to get something going here…

by goodlucksaturday on Nov 3, 2009 7:27 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Wow

Rush scored, beat the Nuggs down the floor.

by Tom Lewis on Nov 3, 2009 7:27 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Hahaha

That would’ve been a foul on our end. No home cooking tonight.

by goodlucksaturday on Nov 3, 2009 7:28 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

scoring buckets is like pulling teeth. Need some easy ones to get going.

by Tom Lewis on Nov 3, 2009 7:29 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

5-21 shooting

Roughly equates to not high enough.

by goodlucksaturday on Nov 3, 2009 7:30 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I remember when it was this bad last year

We just haven’t seen the good yet. I think it’s about time for the good!

by jantz101 on Nov 3, 2009 7:31 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

no doubt

The Nuggets are struggling, just not nearly as bad as the Pacers.

by Tom Lewis on Nov 3, 2009 7:32 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

At least

Danny is doing his job defensively on Melo so far.

by goodlucksaturday on Nov 3, 2009 7:32 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Yup

Danny is playing well on D

by jantz101 on Nov 3, 2009 7:33 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Billups says,

“Let me show you guys how to hit a three.”

by goodlucksaturday on Nov 3, 2009 7:34 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I believe

I have seen him do that once or twice. You know it’s in before it hits the rim

by jantz101 on Nov 3, 2009 7:35 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Pacers getting buried in a pile of bricks. Can they dig out of the rubble?

by Tom Lewis on Nov 3, 2009 7:36 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Alright D Jones

settle down with those quick 19 footers

by jantz101 on Nov 3, 2009 7:36 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

oh

and Melo is only 1-7 so far.

by Tom Lewis on Nov 3, 2009 7:38 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Nowhere to go but up

Then again, this is the that beat New Orleans by 60 points, so I guess it can get worse.

by goodlucksaturday on Nov 3, 2009 7:39 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Jeez

Doesn’t help the Nuggets bad breaks end in two or three points…

by goodlucksaturday on Nov 3, 2009 7:41 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Man

Pacers look completely lost on the offensive end. These players have not meshed together yet

by jantz101 on Nov 3, 2009 7:44 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Where's Danny's aggressiveness?

Just drive and hope for the best…it’s already really bad, no sense in worrying about it getting worse taking a bunch of bad jumpers.

by goodlucksaturday on Nov 3, 2009 7:44 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Wow, there is no one in the building tonight. I hate seeing what Conseco has become.

by ThirtyOne on Nov 3, 2009 7:44 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Murph shaken up

Just what we need, more frontcourt injuries…

by goodlucksaturday on Nov 3, 2009 7:45 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Obie is not the one to lead these Jedi ....

I wouldn’t have taken free tickets to watch a team I love get slaughtered ….

and after they fire Obie the trainer should be called in the office next …..

by Man of Pace on Nov 3, 2009 7:46 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Murph is still in. Whew

by Tom Lewis on Nov 3, 2009 7:48 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Things have gotten bad

I’m excited that Luther is in the game.

by Tom Lewis on Nov 3, 2009 7:49 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Roy gets a nice block.

Possession ends in three for Denver. C’mon…breaks…breaks…where are they!?

by goodlucksaturday on Nov 3, 2009 7:50 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Sheesh Roy

At least figure out where you are before tossing the hook

by Tom Lewis on Nov 3, 2009 7:51 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Come on guys, let’s call a spade a spade. As I’ve said all along subtracting Jack and Daniels and adding Jones, Watson and Jones is a net loss. I think we’re seeing that on the court.

by ThirtyOne on Nov 3, 2009 7:54 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

wasn’t an either or situation, though.

by Tom Lewis on Nov 3, 2009 8:01 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

You’re right it wasn’t and that’s because neither of those guys had any interest in coming back to play for us. Mostly because the talent on this team is weak. So why bring in three more marginally talented players. Honestly, what is/was the point?

by ThirtyOne on Nov 3, 2009 8:05 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

So

We overpay for Jack and pay Daniels an exuberant amount of money for 50 games of service? Then we basically field Price and McBobs in meaningful minutes because we’d have about eight players dressed right now.

by goodlucksaturday on Nov 3, 2009 8:08 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Jack would've come back

Pacers didn’t have $20 mil for him, though.

by Tom Lewis on Nov 3, 2009 8:17 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I wonder what Mel Daniels is thinking right now?

I have never seen a Pacer team look this un-organized and inept …

come on we are begging for a break ?

by Man of Pace on Nov 3, 2009 7:54 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

D.Jones

Doing well here. Can’t expect great things if we have to rely on him like this.

by goodlucksaturday on Nov 3, 2009 7:57 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Man

Speaking of D.Jones, he didn’t even get back on that play.

This is pretty ugly stuff.

by goodlucksaturday on Nov 3, 2009 7:58 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Backpack Attack charity

Not getting any play. Poor kids without their backpacks.

by goodlucksaturday on Nov 3, 2009 8:04 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Speaking of which

I’m ’bout to reach in my backpack and get some studying done. Might give this game a rest for awhile

by jantz101 on Nov 3, 2009 8:06 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Can we get some McRoberts and Price? Maybe these two can show some heart.

by ThirtyOne on Nov 3, 2009 8:06 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Pretty sure

We are gonna be seeing them tonight!

by jantz101 on Nov 3, 2009 8:07 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I hate Price as a player, but this might be the most intriguing player on our roster at this point. Very sad as a fan.

by ThirtyOne on Nov 3, 2009 8:11 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Wow

This is just sad. Nuggets basically turn the ball over four times on that possession and end up with three.

by goodlucksaturday on Nov 3, 2009 8:07 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

My fantasy team

Even has some Pacer-itis tonight. Man, depressing basketball night!

by jantz101 on Nov 3, 2009 8:09 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Pacers lucky to be down only 16 at the half. Too bad they have to play the third quarter.

by Tom Lewis on Nov 3, 2009 8:11 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Boston- 44
Philly – 35

At least we outscored Philly in the half. Too bad Denver has more than 44…

by jantz101 on Nov 3, 2009 8:12 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Unfortunately

They have young guys like Louis Williams and Thaddeus Young. We have Brandon Rush and Roy Hibbert, which isn’t exactly the same here in 2009-10.

by goodlucksaturday on Nov 3, 2009 8:17 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Only 5 turnovers (searching for something good)

The north rim will be happy the teams are switching sides, though.

by Tom Lewis on Nov 3, 2009 8:13 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

There are no people in the arena!

Maybe the Pacers shouldn’t have paid all that money just for a guy to do polls. I could have done a poll. I could have called random people to answer a poll.

by Gwen on Nov 3, 2009 8:18 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Yeah

This is a bad situation with these operating fees, this product on the floor, and the Colts continuing to steal the show every game they play. I just hope I’m still watching the Indiana Pacers in a decade.

by goodlucksaturday on Nov 3, 2009 8:20 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

C'mon boys

We need a good second half!

by jantz101 on Nov 3, 2009 8:26 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I can't even legitimately complain

About those annoying Ford dribble/drives if he’s hitting them…

by goodlucksaturday on Nov 3, 2009 8:26 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Another foul on Roy

McBobs can foul out in thirty seconds, who exactly do we have behind him again? Can Larry Bird walk through that door?

by goodlucksaturday on Nov 3, 2009 8:28 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I'm not enjoying McBob's hair

It’s too…I dunno. Something.

by Gwen on Nov 3, 2009 8:29 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I thought Jim Halpert when I saw it last week.

by ben.renz on Nov 3, 2009 8:29 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

It's what I'll be rocking

If I don’t get it cut within the next couple of months, haha.

by goodlucksaturday on Nov 3, 2009 8:30 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I’m getting tired of seeing our guys foul the Nuggs every single posession.

by ben.renz on Nov 3, 2009 8:32 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Free throws

Not only does the differential suck horribly, but to not basically shot 90% once you’re there? That hurts a lot.

by goodlucksaturday on Nov 3, 2009 8:32 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Danny doesn't look good offensively tonight

Think this foot is still bothering him? Hopefully it’s not his above average defensive effort holding him back offensively.

by goodlucksaturday on Nov 3, 2009 8:33 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I *know it's only the 3rd game of the season

I *know there are a lot of new players to incorporate. I *know we are getting some players back…I *know these things, and I’m still bummed.

by Gwen on Nov 3, 2009 8:33 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

It's definitely too early to panic

But by the third game of the season, you should have a microcosm of an idea of what to expect, and I don’t like what microcosms I’m seeing of this team.

by goodlucksaturday on Nov 3, 2009 8:34 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Third quarter reversal

Maybe something’s wrong with that goal…

by goodlucksaturday on Nov 3, 2009 8:35 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Nice leave TJ

Nuggs seemed to have relaxed.

by Tom Lewis on Nov 3, 2009 8:36 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Danny silky smooth shot

Yes, sir, I did doubt you. Prove me wrong, please.

by goodlucksaturday on Nov 3, 2009 8:36 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

For real

We’re getting schooled on the boards.

by goodlucksaturday on Nov 3, 2009 8:37 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

The Denver feed sounds weird, like a strange echo

Are you there Tom? Is there an echo in the arena?

by Gwen on Nov 3, 2009 8:37 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Cornrows, for after the game

May I suggest the Whiskey Bar on 2nd ave. Good place to forget about this game

by jantz101 on Nov 3, 2009 8:47 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Got it within ten

Just in time for Denver to score five unanswered.

by goodlucksaturday on Nov 3, 2009 8:38 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

At least some energy, knock some people around...

his hair will scare everyone away from the basket

by Gwen on Nov 3, 2009 8:40 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

The Nuggets announcers just said Josh is out of Miss. St. How does an announcer not know he’s out of Duke?

by ThirtyOne on Nov 3, 2009 8:42 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Must be looking at a lineup sheet from 1996

Dampier hasn’t been here for a long time.

by goodlucksaturday on Nov 3, 2009 8:44 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I don’t think Miss. St. has put a white guy in the NBA in the last 25 years.

by ThirtyOne on Nov 3, 2009 8:45 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

McRoberts says

“I eat rebounds for breakfast!”

by goodlucksaturday on Nov 3, 2009 8:46 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

There are a lot of jump balls tonight

If this were a college game, I’d be really mad at the possession arrow right now.

by goodlucksaturday on Nov 3, 2009 8:48 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

BOOM BABY

Danny puts it within 11. Need a stop here.

by goodlucksaturday on Nov 3, 2009 8:54 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Too much NBA Jam

Not enough NBA Showdown.

by goodlucksaturday on Nov 3, 2009 8:56 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Pacers actually within striking distance

Need to actually get a run started to open the fourth.

Think of the children who need backpacks, guys!

by goodlucksaturday on Nov 3, 2009 8:57 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Earl Watson has to know how much times on the clock there.

by ThirtyOne on Nov 3, 2009 8:57 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I was thinking that

While exclaiming, “Clock! Clock!”

by goodlucksaturday on Nov 3, 2009 8:58 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Earl’s defense has been suspect so far this season as well. Tell me again what he’s here for?

by ThirtyOne on Nov 3, 2009 8:59 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

No other options? Travis Diener and A.J. Price at #2? Not good. I think we could’ve had Ramon Sessions for about the same price though, which doesn’t settle well with me.

by goodlucksaturday on Nov 3, 2009 9:00 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

D Jones with 17

Raise your hand if you thought he would be our second option.

by jantz101 on Nov 3, 2009 8:59 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Raise your hand if you think someone who’s career average is around 6 pts a game should be the leading scorer for the Pacers.

by ThirtyOne on Nov 3, 2009 9:00 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

My two year old just remarked that Chris Anderson needs a haircut.

by ThirtyOne on Nov 3, 2009 9:03 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

He could also use some common sense.

by ben.renz on Nov 3, 2009 9:04 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

You have to be at least three years old to pick up on that.

by ThirtyOne on Nov 3, 2009 9:06 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Does anyone else get the impression that T.J. isn’t very happy?

by ThirtyOne on Nov 3, 2009 9:05 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Ha ha

whatever gives you that impression?

by Tom Lewis on Nov 3, 2009 9:07 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Why?

His tweets in the offseason made it sound like he was really gonna try to get better this season. I don’t see it on the court. Does this mean I can’t believe everything I read on Twitter.

by ThirtyOne on Nov 3, 2009 9:09 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

If it's one the internet, it's always true!!

Next thing you know someone’s going to tell me Santa is fake.

by Gwen on Nov 3, 2009 9:10 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

for starters, yes on the last question

He’s not showing much fight, though. Seemed real happy working out for the summer, but when things go bad seems like he goes south instead of digging in.

by Tom Lewis on Nov 3, 2009 9:13 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Ford leads with his shoulder

Gets absolutely nothing that helps him, and fouls out.

Awesome. Let’s get Price in there.

by goodlucksaturday on Nov 3, 2009 9:06 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

On a positive note

both Danny and Brandon’s man defense look better this year. Brandon needs to see the ball go in the bucket a couple of times and get some confidence out there.

by jantz101 on Nov 3, 2009 9:07 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

The story of Brandon’s career. All the time he spent in Kansas he should have went to see the Wizard for some confidence.

by ThirtyOne on Nov 3, 2009 9:10 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Lead back up to 20

I’d say that might just about finish this one off…bleh.

by goodlucksaturday on Nov 3, 2009 9:09 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I’d rather have Ty, two years younger and he can play the point.

by ThirtyOne on Nov 3, 2009 9:12 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

We are loaded at PG

Just none of them are starters. Thats got to be an area of concern this offseason

by jantz101 on Nov 3, 2009 9:15 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Should have been an area of concern last off season.

by ThirtyOne on Nov 3, 2009 9:16 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I really hate to pass a six-month judgment on a team six days into the season

But we don’t have anything. And not even in the same way Jack and Daniels could help. Last year’s energy is not there, and we can’t even hang with contenders right now. Dunleavy can’t even save this.

We’ve got a long way to go. Hope it’s not too late when we finally have cap room to make real moves.

by goodlucksaturday on Nov 3, 2009 9:17 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

I still don’t think we can do anything of note in free agency, even with the cap money. We’ll just overpay more role players. If we want to do anything we have to stop wasting draft picks on bench players.

by ThirtyOne on Nov 3, 2009 9:20 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

This team has so little fan interest that we can’t even get more than 6 people involved in a game time thread. I can’t imagine how little interest will be here by the end of this season.

by ThirtyOne on Nov 3, 2009 9:24 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I realize

Not all Colts fans are from Indiana, or even the ones in Indiana are all Pacer fans, but it’s pretty frustrating at how lopsided the fan interest is here. Getting blown out in the first three games doesn’t help at all and won’t help the interest moving forward.

by goodlucksaturday on Nov 3, 2009 9:29 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed

Especially the first two at home. Sad state of affairs for the Basketball State

by jantz101 on Nov 3, 2009 9:31 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Yep, the problem is that the Pacers don’t win anymore. And that there really isn’t anything that’s been done in the last three years that leads someone to believe that they’ll start winning any time soon.

by ThirtyOne on Nov 3, 2009 9:31 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Roy's going to have himself a pretty good statistical game

Shame he has at least half of it here in garbage time.

by goodlucksaturday on Nov 3, 2009 9:24 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

On to MSG

chance to see just how ugly this start to the season can get…

by Tom Lewis on Nov 3, 2009 9:29 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Hawks, Heat, Nuggets

All going to be really good teams this year.

The Knicks…not so much.

A pretty big psyche test tomorrow for this team.

by goodlucksaturday on Nov 3, 2009 9:33 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Think I might

open up the Crown Royal after that game. See you guys tomorrow for some sweet Pacers action

by jantz101 on Nov 3, 2009 9:35 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Suggestion

Open the Crown BEFORE the game tomorrow.

by Tom Lewis on Nov 3, 2009 10:07 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

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