If I could turn back the hands of time..

by captain flitzy on Nov 25, 2009 1:42 PM EST Comment 8 comments

What would we do in 2008? Im sitting here bored at work the day before Thanksgiving, and thought it would be cool to check out last years draft. Are we happy with the results??? Roy has us all giddy, Rush has been both sides of the coin, and Bayless (our original pick) hasnt done a darn thing. Heck , Portland brought in Andre Miller this year to put in over him, lacking depth at the PG. But being that PG is our most needed position, would it have been better to keep him? Check it out

Here are the results from NBA.com for the draft last year. Looking back on it, I think it is safe to say Roy was an absolute steal! Not even close. If they redrafted, starting from Chicago, I'd say from what we have seen so far, he goes in the top 10. It is tough to find a young, coachable, talented, legit center, and this year it seems we really have found it.

Now on to the Rush pick. I would still take Rush over Bayless. I think Rush becomes a solid Defender, 3rd option type guy a year or two from now, while Bayless is still struggling to get PT. Going back, if we had that pick again I would obviosly take Roy there, but for everyone else after, I think the only players I would have rather drafted at this point are Anthony Randolph - definitely (who is probably just going to be a complete animal once Don Nelson is let go), MAAAAYBBBEEE think about Courtney Lee but I'd still rather have Rush, and probably take his college running-mate Mario Chalmers over him for our lack of PG. Chalmers started all 82 games at PG for a playoff team last year, not bad for a rook. All in all, I think Bird did a hell of a Job in this draft looking back a year later, what do you guys think?

1	Chicago Bulls	Derrick Rose, Guard, Memphis
2	Miami Heat	Michael Beasley, Forward, Kansas State
3	Minnesota Timberwolves	O.J. Mayo, Guard, USC (To Memphis)
4	Seattle Supersonics	Russell Westbrook, Guard, UCLA
5	Memphis Grizzlies	Kevin Love, Forward, UCLA (To Minnesota)
6	New York Knicks	Danilo Gallinari, Forward, Italy
7	Los Angeles Clippers	Eric Gordon, Guard, Indiana
8	Milwaukee Bucks	Joe Alexander, Forward, West Virginia
9	Charlotte Bobcats	D.J. Augustin, Guard, Texas
10	New Jersey Nets	Brook Lopez, Center, Stanford
11	Indiana Pacers	Jerryd Bayless, Guard, Arizona
12	Sacramento Kings	Jason Thompson, Forward, Rider
13	Portland Trail Blazers	Brandon Rush, Forward, Kansas
14	Golden State Warriors	Anthony Randolph, Forward, LSU
15	Phoenix Suns (from Atlanta)	Robin Lopez, Forward, Stanford
16	Philadelphia 76ers	Marreese Speights, Forward, Florida
17	Toronto Raptors	Roy Hibbert, Center, Georgetown
18	Washington Wizards	JaVale McGee, Center, Nevada
19	Cleveland Cavaliers	J.J. Hickson, Forward, N.C. State
20	Charlotte Bobcats (from Denver)	Alexis Ajinca, Center, France
21	New Jersey Nets (from Dallas)	Ryan Anderson, Forward, California
22	Orlando Magic	Courtney Lee, Guard, Western Kentucky
23	Utah Jazz	Kosta Koufos, Center, Ohio State
24	Seattle SuperSonics (from Phoenix)	Serge Ibaka, Forward, Spain
25	Houston Rockets	Nicolas Batum, Forward, France (To Portland)
26	San Antonio Spurs	George Hill, Guard, IUPUI
27	New Orleans	Darrell Arthur, Forward, Kansas (To Memphis via Portland)
28	Memphis Grizzlies (from L.A. Lakers)	Donte Greene, Forward, Syracuse (To Houston)
29	Detroit Pistons	D.J. White, Forward, Indiana (To Seattle)
30	Boston Celtics	J.R. Giddens, Guard, New Mexico


31	Minnesota Timberwolves (from Miami)	Nikola Pekovic, Center, Serbia
32	Seattle Supersonics	Walter Sharpe, Forward, Alabama-Birmingham (To Detroit)
33	Portland Trail Blazers (from Memphis)	Joey Dorsey, Forward, Memphis (To Houston)
34	Minnesota Timberwolves	Mario Chalmers, Guard, Kansas (To Miami)
35	Los Angeles Clippers	DeAndre Jordan, Center, Texas A&M
36	Portland Trail Blazers (from New York)	Omer Asik, Center, Turkey (To Chicago)
37	Milwaukee Bucks	Luc Mbah a Moute, Forward, UCLA
38	Charlotte Bobcats	Kyle Weaver, Guard, Washington State
39	Chicago Bulls	Sonny Weems, Guard, Arkansas (To Denver)
40	New Jersey Nets	Chris Douglas-Roberts, Guard, Memphis
41	Indiana Pacers	Nathan Jawai, Forward, Australia
42	Sacramento Kings (from Atlanta)	Sean Singletary, Guard, Virginia
43	Sacramento Kings	Patrick Ewing Jr., Forward, Georgetown
44	Utah Jazz (from Philadelphia)	Ante Tomic, Center, Croatia
45	San Antonio Spurs (from Toronto)	Goran Dragic, Guard, Slovenia (To Phoenix)
46	Seattle SuperSonics (from Portland)	Trent Plaisted, Forward, BYU (To Detroit)
47	Washington Wizards	Bill Walker, Forward, Kansas State (To Boston)
48	Phoenix Suns (from Cleveland)	Malik Hairston, Guard, Oregon (To San Antonio)
49	Golden State Warriors	Richard Hendrix, Forward, Alabama
50	Seattle SuperSonics (from Denver)	DeVon Hardin, Center, California
51	Dallas Mavericks	Shan Foster, Guard, Vanderbilt
52	Miami Heat (from Orlando)	Darnell Jackson, Forward, Kansas (To Cleveland)
53	Utah Jazz	Tadija Dragicevic, Forward, Serbia
54	Houston Rockets	Maarty Leunen, Forward, Oregon
55	Portland Trail Blazers (from Phoenix)	Mike Taylor, Guard, Idaho Stampede (To L.A. Clippers)
56	Seattle SuperSonics (from New Orleans)	Sasha Kaun, Center, Kansas
57	San Antonio Spurs	James Gist, Forward, Maryland
58	Los Angeles Lakers	Joe Crawford, Guard, Kentucky
59	Detroit Pistons	Deron Washington, Forward, Virginia Tech
60	Boston Celtics	Semih Erden, Center, Turkey

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hmmm we did pretty well...

Maybe would have been nice to have a guy like Ryan Anderson for when we let Murph go. Or to have gotten Christ Douglas Roberts now in hind site. I would rather have CDR than rush, and gotten Roy from Toronto and picked up Ryan Anderson, and traded Murph for someone else?

Of course all of this is now in hind sight, if it would have actually happened this way I probably would have thrown my TV out the window.

~SHaFF!~

by SHaFF87 on Nov 26, 2009 10:34 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

HIbbert was a steal

Rush… ugh… I don’t see what a lot of people see. I think he sucks

I’d take..

- Randolph… he will be an animal once nelson is gone
- Speights… he is averaging 13 and 6 on 60% shooting
- Hickson: only 21, i like what I see when I see them play, + averaging 8+ on a good percentage
- Anderson: averaging double digits right now
- Batum: started all year last year, is hurt now but I actually liked what i saw. for a playoff team too
- Lee: he isn’t that good but he is better than Rush
- Chalmers

and I might think about bayless too… he is still young and he would get more playing time and more time to develop on our shit team compared to portland.

IMO… Rush was a whiff. I don’t think he will develop into anything but a 10th-12th man.

by dbcb on Nov 27, 2009 8:47 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Bayless

The thing about Bayless is that he is still two years younger than Rush. He is buried behind the perfect point guard for that team in Steve Blake. They don’t need a point guard to do any scoring and not even really that much ball handling since Brandon Roy does that a lot of the time for them.

I think Bayless still has a chance to be really good, he’s just not a good fit for that team. Brandon Rush on the other hand isn’t really a good fit for anything but the end of the bench.

by ThirtyOne on Nov 30, 2009 9:22 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

I think this is the wrong draft to look at. Others screwed us far worse.

How about having no pick in 2007 in exchange for one year of Al Harrington? (At #11 we could’ve gotten Rudy Fernandez or Rodney Stuckey.)

Most of all, most indefensibly, look at 2006. The Pacers took that waste of space Shawne Williams over Rajon frickin’ Rondo! AGHHHHHH!!!!

We’ve basically had one really good pick in my time as a Pacers fan and that was the most “NO FRICKIN DUH WE’RE TAKING THIS GUY, HOW IS IS STILL HERE?” pick; Mr. Granger.

If Larry Bird was named James Smith he’d have been fired by now.

by SethGrandpa on Dec 1, 2009 4:46 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

Not looking back...

the Shawne Williams pick was when we took him over Marcus Williams right? I remember not knowing about Shawne, but really really wanting Marcus. I dont even think he is in the league anymore, last I remember he was at Golden State?

by captain flitzy on Dec 1, 2009 9:09 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs