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Knicks 110, Pacers 103: Pacers Crumble Down The Stretch

Wilson Chandler and the Knicks rose above the Pacers at winning time.

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Wilson Chandler and the Knicks rose above the Pacers at winning time.

"They beat the heck out of us in the fourth quarter."

Uh, yeah.

Jim O'Brien stated the obvious in his post-game comments after witnessing his Indiana Pacers lose control of a game they grasped for most of the night before eventually letting it go, losing to the visiting New York Knicks, 110-103.

The Pacers had a 13-point lead with 7:30 left in the fourth quarter and then just crumbled down the stretch. The home team ran out of gas and answers, while Al Harrington and the Knicks took advantage of their depth and fresh legs to sprint past the Pacers at the finish.

At halftime, life seemed so good for the Pacers. Danny Granger had 30 points, the team had scored 43 points in the second quarter. They had nine offensive rebounds and Roy Hibbert was on his way to another double-double. Visions of a sixth-straight win were HD clear.

Then the second half happened.

Danny Granger was blanketed by Wilson Chandler early in the third quarter and then slipped into a foul-induced coma, for the remainder of the game. After returning for the last half of the fourth quarter, the Pacers' All-Star could never get it going again. There was a brief spark of hope with two minutes left when Granger hit an 18-footer to put the Pacers up 100-99. But the Pacers would never lead again and about 30 seconds later, Granger would foul out trying to block a shot in transition.

But Granger doesn't get all of the blame. The final 5:50 of the game produced enough goats to turn this near-win into a sure-loss.

Star-divide

With 5:50 left in the game Dahntay Jones made a layup to put the Pacers up nine (97-86). Then the implosion went into full effect.

Earl Watson offensive foul, Watson turnover, Granger bad pass turnover, Watson's shot blocked, Hibbert missed shot, Dahntay Jones missed shot. That all happened in consecutive possessions.

Dahntay broke the string by making one of two free throws and then Granger made his two-pointer at two minutes with the game still in the balance. But then another string of slopped spilled out on the offensive end for the Pacers.

T.J. Ford bad pass turnover, Dahntay bad pass turnover, T.J. bad pass turnover (SERIOUSLY), Watson missed 3-ball. 

Meanwhile, Harrington was leading the Knicks to the W at the other end. The former Pacers scored 13 points in the final 5:37 including three 3-balls which gave the Knicks all of the life they needed to believe they could steal the win. And they did.

A few more observations:

  • During the fourth quarter when the Pacers still had a nice lead, JOB responded nastily to a fan yelling at him to put Granger back in the game. Seems crazy that JOB would feel the need to verbally respond at a time like that, but maybe he was the first to know his team was about to collapse.
  • Hard to imagine two more diametrically opposed halves of basketball than the two that Granger put out tonight. He was making it look easy in the first half and had the look in his eye while knocking down 5 of 6 three balls. But that look was nowhere to be found after the game. Instead he sat in a heap in front of his locker and mumbled through his post-game interview, literally talking through his fingers.
  • The turnovers down the stretch were so mind-numbing, I have a feeling Vegas will be checking into this one. Granger, T.J. Dahntay and Watson all had careless turnovers. T.J. coughed up three which gave the Pacers no chance to salvage the win.
  • Speaking of T.J., I should've known there was some bad karma brewing early in the game when it was obvious T.J. and Dahntay weren't on the same page. With Dahntay taking the ball up the middle of the court in transition, T.J. was on the left wing waving his arms for the ball. When Jones passed to the right instead and turned it over, T.J. let his frustration show with a little pout in the corner.
  • Roy Hibbert logged another double-double with 14 points and 12 rebounds, although only one of those came in the second half. He appeared to have his way in the post against David Lee in the first half, but Granger was going so well the Pacers didn't need to expose it. For some reason, they couldn't make it work in the second half either. Eddy Curry provided a little more beef in the middle to contend with. Yeah, I know, that last sentence is crazy. So was this game.
  • Dahntay Jones didn't have his best game, equalling T.J. with 5 turnovers, but he laid his body on the line trying to get something going. He also scored a cool 25 points, finding his offense in the draft behind Granger and Hibbert. He even made a couple of threes, although I'd be fine if those were his last two treys of the calendar year.
  • Earl Watson played more crunch time minutes tonight in a lineup that had him paired with T.J. Ford. Brandon Rush had another quiet offensive night, missing 6 of his 7 threes. After the game JOB mentioned that he prefers Watson at this time and Rush is dealing with normal second-year consistency issues. Hmm, whatever.
  • Tyler Hansbrough burst through his 16 minute playing limit tonight, logging 20:38 and even playing a bit late in the game after Granger fouled out. The rook finished with 14 points and 5 rebounds, including a sweet follow where he was hit in mid-air, scored the bucket and drew the foul.

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T.J. waving his arms open

I should’ve read into that deeper. I had caught Ford on that play, and just remember the frustration on his face when he didn’t get the ball in that situation.

As for the game, there are a lot of positives to take, except the way it ended. Really, most of the second half. D.Jones had a really quiet 21. I was thinking some point in the second half I hadn’t really seen D.Jones do a lot, but I look over at the player scoreboard and he had 15. Really? Jeez.

Knicks deserve some credit for adjusting for Danny in the second half, but certainly some credit has to go to the Pacers for that putrid second half ball movement. I’m positive the lady in front of me was sick and tired of hearing me say, “Move the ball! Why isn’t Danny getting touches!? That’s four possessions without him getting the ball!” This dude had a monstrous first half, and the team just went away from him.

It was a pathetic ending to an otherwise good game. Tonight’s dagger was when Earl Watson brought the ball up the court and flung up a three pointer with the team down about five. I’m aware you needed one, but there was still time to find a shot that worked.

All in all, I’m pretty bummed. I had a fifteen year winning streak going, hadn’t seen the Pacers lose in person since the Celtics were in town during the 94-95 season. Shame I had to see it end, especially in a game that never should’ve been close, much less a loss.

Hopefully the team can rebound on Friday. Being two above .500 was great, I’d like to relish the above .500 thing a little longer than a week.

by goodlucksaturday on Nov 18, 2009 11:38 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

D.Jones

That is to say…25. I had last taken note of his scoring when he was at 21, haha.

by goodlucksaturday on Nov 18, 2009 11:39 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

This one sucked

They played well for 36 minutes. Just didn’t finish the last 12. Our starting backcourt played very poorly. TJ Ford was a turnover machine during crunch time. Jumpers stopped falling, and our half court O was pretty sad in the 4th. I hope they learn from this, get a days rest and prepare for 48 minutesbof basketball when Lebron and Granpy Shaq come to town. Tough loss tonight, maybe it’ll turn out to be a learning experience for the youngsters…I am getting tired of TJ over dribbling and trying to make a frantic play with the shot clock at 5 seconds. More Earl, less TJ.

by Aarena on Nov 19, 2009 2:16 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Ford

Ford is proving more and more what a cancer he is to the team, especially at the end of games. His turnovers drive me crazy, not because of the number, but because of the way he makes all of them. Has he really learned not to fly in the lane at 5’8" and jump without having options? They need to do something about that especially the more and more I watch Price. He is the anti TJ, doesn’t stand out and do anything great, but he makes good decisions and may actually pass it to Granger or Hibbert once in a while. Frustrating game. The other early thing I’ve learned this year is that this team is better without Murph. Hibbert gets to have more touched and stays in the flow of the game and plays much better D. Its weird that a person so statistically sound can potentially have a negative effect on the court.

"My game’s like the Pythagorean Theorem. It ain’t got no answer." - Shaq

by bleedinblueandgold on Nov 19, 2009 2:02 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

We absolutely have the worst starting back court in the nba.

Ford and Rush are just completely and absolutely worthless

Ford… 9-2-4.. shooting 37% with nearly 2 to’s a game

our starting pg is averaging 2 assists.. 2

Rush… 7-2-5… shotting 33% and 27% from 3. plus 2 to’s a game

our starting SG can’t shoot

a starting pg who can’t pass, can’t shoot, and is a pain in the ass. A starting 2 guard who can’t shoot and is showing no promise whatsoever. remember he is 22… not 19.

sigh you can’t consistently win with a back court that bad.

by dbcb on Nov 19, 2009 5:23 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

They were who I thought they were (or something like that)

Rush is TERRIBLE. There is no way to get around this fact. Will he surprise the hell out of me and put up a few good games along the way? Sure. A lot of NBA players can do this. That doesn’t mean he has potential. Trading Rush right now and getting anything for him would be a genius move by Bird. If, by some miracle, he could trade Rush and Ford at the same time we could have a serious upgrade on our hands. With ANYBODY!

by ThirtyOne on Nov 19, 2009 7:58 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Who knows - Pacers might get an aging Allen Iverson

so he can yell from the back of the bus how the Pacers all suck.

by Gwen on Nov 19, 2009 12:09 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Your so emotional

Relax dude, it’s hard to take your post serious. Read my post below. I’ve watched the NBA for a long time. Rush is not TERRIBLE. He can defend now, his offensive confidence will come…Are you related to Peter Vecey?

by Aarena on Nov 19, 2009 2:14 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Seriously?

No, his offensive confidence won’t come. Since you’re just getting started around here I’ll assume you’ve never read my posts regarding his coaches, all the way back to AAU saying that he needs to find his “confidence”. Rush is what he is. Basketball is not a passion of his. He plays because his brothers played and he likes getting paid. There’s nothing wrong with this, it’s just that he will never start for a team that wins a title or even seriously competes in the NBA. And don’t bring up his time here in Lawrence, if he had any heart that team would have won at least one more title while he was here. I’ve watched the dude play basketball since he was a junior in high school. Can you say the same Aarena. I know people that he knows, can you say the same? I think I’m coming from a position of strength here. I don’t claim to have knowledge of TJ but I think his stats speak for themselves. 2 assists a game will never get it done for a starting point guard in the NBA. With our offense 8 assists a game should be easy.

And seriously, you’re going to give Rush props for guarding an ancient Ray Allen? Wow. I guess it doesn’t take much to get props these days. Just know that at 23 Ray Allen would have destroyed someone like Brandon Rush. Fact!

by ThirtyOne on Nov 19, 2009 3:43 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Wow

Are you like Yoda and in his head with Jedi mind tricks too. I played pick up games at the 86th st and Westfield dr. Y with Vern Fleming and his twin brother, but I can’t say I knew his true and complete potential as a human and athelete. Rush was a good college player, and I agree with Aarena, he plays good D right now. Not Artest like, but he’s long and athletic and moves his feet well. There’s some kinda grudge going on here. Did ya lose money on the championship game? Lol! Please don’t start trashing me, just joking about the grudge.

by Rush Rules!!! on Nov 20, 2009 1:22 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I agree Tom

I made this profile to tell these guys to chill. It’s like a Jerry Springer episode down here latley.

by Rush Rules!!! on Nov 20, 2009 1:24 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Temper temper

TJ is not a what we need, he’s the result of purging JOs max contract. He’ll either opt out after this year, or we definatly won’t resign him after 2011. Rush has potential. He had a bad night last night. For all of you saying he’s worthless. Go back and watch his D on Allen in the Boston game. He can get it done on that end of the floor, that’s why he’s still getting 30+ minutes. Last night I will be the first to say he was just floating out there. Back to backs are tough on young players. He’ll be ok…I remember my favorite IU player (Calbert Cheaney) saying the hardest thing to adjust to in the NBA was the travel and the back to backs. He was used to having time to get hyped for games. TJ is a 6 year vet, he is what he is. Give Rush a little time though. He can shoot (just like his brother) it may take him a bit to find his NBA game. It took Dunkneevy about 4 years. Not all guys just step right in and impact. But some turn into fine role players. Rush probably won’t be an all star kinda guy, but I have a good feeling he’s gonna be a solid NBA player who can defend.

by Aarena on Nov 19, 2009 2:11 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

What have you done for me this second

That’s half of your guys mentality. Your post are positive on a five game win streak. Then after a loss on back to backs, the sky is falling, and we should trade our backcourt for a couple guys at the local Y. With fans like you guys, who needs Detroit? Lol! Give it a rest and take a zanex fellas.

by Aarena on Nov 19, 2009 2:21 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Coach Dungy

As Dungy said over and over and over “Dont get too high after a win, and don’t panic after a loss.” I’m glad you guys aren’t atheletes.

by Aarena on Nov 19, 2009 2:24 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Whatever

I’ve been a fan for over 25 years. It’s an 82 game season, and were still in the rebuilding stage. Are you expecting us to win the NBA championship this year or something? I was just as upset as anyone, but you have to put it in perspective. Live in the intellect, not in your emotions.

by Aarena on Nov 19, 2009 2:29 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

We've been rebuilding for 5 years now ...

I think every fan wants to see results and this year is playoffs or bust …. Look at Conseco’s empty seats … unless we start winning this team will be called the St Louis something or the Seattle Pacers …

We can’t lose home games to crap teams …. escpecially after going up 20+ points
the fans should be upset …

For the record Kareem Rush never found anything in the NBA and his brother has the same mental make up … agreed he can play defense, but he is not a starter and slows the offense up tremendously …

TJ is what TJ is ….

appologies for the cheaps shot

by Man of Pace on Nov 19, 2009 2:39 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Accepted

I don’t think our rebuilding started till Bird took over personell decisions. That was the beginning of last year. Previous to that Walsh still held the reigns. Bird moved JO, got what he could (not much) and started picking our draft choices. This offseason was great, S Jones, D Jones, and Watson at dollar store prices. The players are playing with enthusiasm again, and things are looking up. Winning will fill the seats, but Indy has always been hit and miss filling the seats. I remember Coach Brown asking the media “Was IU playing tonight or something?” that was during the Reggie, Smits years when we were a powerhouse. We all want that again, and I think were getting there. But weeknights have always had spotty turnouts.

by Aarena on Nov 19, 2009 3:00 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

You may be right ...

By the looks of what Donnie is doing in New York ….

We’re on the upswing and don’t get me wrong I love the teams direction … the last 5 minutes we’re very difficult to watch .. the guys on the court reminded me of a fish out of water flopping around until it died ….

I can’t say much about the seats myself .. I have yet to attend this year …

by Man of Pace on Nov 19, 2009 3:11 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

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