Hawks 120, Pacers 109: Hawks Cash In Turnovers, Hand Pacers Loss In Opener
Possession of the ball is nine tenths of the loss.
The Indiana Pacers opened the 2009-10 NBA season with a frustrating loss on the road to the Atlanta Hawks, 120-109. The Hawks are a talented squad fighting to move closer to the elite teams in the Eastern Conference. For the Pacer to beat the Hawks on the road, they needed to shoot the ball well, a huge foul disparity and minimize mistakes.
Well, the Pacers shot the ball well (53.4%) and made ten three pointers, so that wasn't the problem. The Pacers did commit 26 fouls, but the Hawks had 25 and the both finished with 21 points from the line. So far so good, right?
Yeah, well about that minimize mistakes part. This is where the bulk of the blame shifts for this loss. The Pacers finished the game with 25 turnovers which the Hawks cashed in for more than 30 points. Absolutely mind numbing.
Late in the first half, the Pacers were shooting 66%, but were only up one thanks to the turnovers. Don't think about pinning these donations on the fast pace of play either. Not when so many were handed over in the half court on poor passes. And by poor passes I mean literally and A to B pass on the perimeter. The passer didn't account for the defense and the player receiving the pass didn't move to the ball.
Josh Smith was the main culprit for the Hawks with 5 steals on these poor decisions. He also caused problems after defensive rebounds, always defending the outlet pass. Again, the Pacers repeatedly let him get a hand on the ball by simply not showing any court awareness.
After the jump, more player observations. Plenty of good and bad to digest from this one including the new faces playing some big minutes:
- Let's start at the top, with Danny Granger shaking off a painful heel to pump in 31 points, with five 3-balls. Despite the scoring, Granger didn't seem quite right on the court and he only played 22 minutes. Pretty efficient night for 33 with 31 points on 18 shots in 22 minutes. So to think how long the Pacers hung in there with all of those turnovers and without a full dose of Danny shows some promise to grab onto heading into the home opener. UPDATE: Granger played 34:19 last night. The initial box score shorted him 12 minutes. (thanks, Bret)
- It will take some time to get used to seeing Dahntay Jones and Earl Watson in the playing rotation, but we may see a lot more of them as the season goes on. Both really came to play and made plays. No they weren't perfect, but they laid it on the line. Dahntay in particular was hyper-aggressive even, surprisingly, on the offensive end. In fact, while I appreciate the effort and the 17 points, I'd prefer he toned down the offense a bit. I could do without the possessions where he holds the ball too long trying to force a drive. It worked quite a bit against the Hawks as he found his way to the line, but I can see that being a net negative over the long haul.
- Despite the quibble about Dahntay being TOO aggressive, I'd much rather have that than what Brandon Rush ended up offering tonight. After a decent start and a couple of nice buckets in the lane, Rush wasn't able to rev up his game to match the intensity of the game. After a pair of turnovers where he literally just lost the ball on the dribble, JOB kept him tethered to the bench. Won't be surprised to see Dahntay starting on Friday.
- Troy Murphy put up some big numbers with 14 points, 10 rebounds and 7 assists, but as mentioned above, those five turnovers mostly on bad passes were also a factor.
- T.J. Ford played fewer minutes than Earl Watson which could add a little drama depending on how Ford deals with it. Ironically, Ford didn't turn the ball over, but Watson was a better match up defensively and was playing well so JOB stuck with him until Watson was fully worn out.
- Roy Hibbert started strong with 7 first quarter rebounds, but finished with just 6 points and 9 rebounds for the game. Hibbert only had three fouls in his 25 minutes but didn't impact the game much if at all in the second half. Hibbert struggled to keep up with the athletic Al Horford who finished with 24 points and 16 rebounds for the Hawks.
- Joe Johnson had a quiet 25 points for the Hawks, but made all the necessary plays down the stretch during winning time. Other than Granger, the Pacers came up empty looking for options at winning time.
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This was not a good start to the season for the Pacers. Same problems from the last couple years:
1. Turnovers, Turnovers, Turnovers. 25 freaking turnovers. Where do you go from here? They looked unprepared and lost on the offensive end. At some point we have to start asking who is preparing (or not preparing) this team?
2. No defense. Pathetic. Horrible. Terrible. The Hawks are a good team and will make the playoffs. But, 120 points on opening night? Are you kidding me!!! Where’s the effort? Where’s the prep on defense? Who is watching film? Who is preparing?? This is the NBA for crying out loud. Perhaps Jim Caldwell could also coach the Pacers
3. Disappearing act of Rush and Hibbert. This cannot continue. We MUST have production from these 2 guys. Night in, night out.
4. How long are the Pacers going to play this “TJ Ford is our starting point guard” game? 1 for 9 from the field with 3 assists.
by davis3217 on Oct 29, 2009 1:07 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It is what it is.
I know it’s only one game but I think we seen a lot from this team. To me I’d say these are the things that we now know,
1. Brandon Rush is still who I’ve said he is. Opening night and we already see him slipping into the background, not being aggressive and making too many mistakes. Sad but true, this is who he is.
2. TJ Ford is already finding himself a comfortable seat in JOB’s doghouse. Now it looks like we’re staring a season of Earl Watson in the face. Would have been nice to draft one of those young talented point guards that were sitting there at 13.
3. Troy Murphy is still the same guy that he’s always been. He will make a nice shot on one trip, and then let a loose ball bounce right off his hands the next. At this point I think any time Murphy is on the court we probably see just as many positives as negatives from him.
4. Danny Granger looks like he’s gotten better. I don’t know what it was last night but he to look more dangerous than ever. And if he’s going to increase his scoring average another 6 points this year he’s off to a good start.
by ThirtyOne on Oct 29, 2009 7:46 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It's also important to remember
Rush and Hibbert are playing their first game of their second year. I understand the frustrations with Rush, but give him time to develop. I can remember many ups and downs with Danny in his second year. He just had a cast around him that could make up for his inefficiencies. He wasn’t expected to help lead the team, he was just a prospect we were all really high on. Rush showed something at the end of last year, maybe it was just a spark, maybe it was a sign of what is to come. Just don’t discount him this early in the season, even if you are frustrated.
by jantz101 on Oct 29, 2009 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rush
Excellent point. After looking at the stats from each players rookie year there are a lot of similarities. I guess my opinion is drawn less from what I’ve seen last year and more of what I’ve seen of him in college and high school. I’ve also spoken with people who’ve known Rush awhile. Living in Lawrence I have a different perspective on him than do Indiana fans who’ve only followed his career since he was drafted by the Pacers.
by ThirtyOne on Oct 29, 2009 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Granger's minutes
For whatever reason, after the first quarter, the 12 minutes that Granger and Josh Smith played in the first quarter were removed from the minutes column of the boxscore. Granger actually played 34:19 last night.
by Hoopinion on Oct 29, 2009 9:53 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The sky is falling, the sky is falling!!
Its one game. ONE. If they turn the ball over 25 times with any sort of regularity, then yes, feel free to freak out. If they simply reduce that number to 15 (which is still more than I’d like), they probably win that game, even if they do give up 120 pts. No, I don’t like that the D didn’t look improved, but I’m not going to say that it won’t for the entire season based on one game.
I am happy with the new guys, they played pretty well. But again, I’m going to reserve judgment until more than one game has been played. Lets all relax and get ready to rock Conseco tomorrow.
by TheHawk5 on Oct 29, 2009 10:25 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah it is one game but at the same time it’s not like this is the first time we seen some of these things. Rush being indecisive is not something that just happened in this one game. It’s what he is. I think that the attitude that JOB took with these guys shows that it’s not just about this game. These are patterns that have been carried over from last season. If it was just one game Brandon and T.J. don’t sit most of the second half on the bench.
by ThirtyOne on Oct 29, 2009 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yabbut. . .
I understand that these problems are carry over problems from last year, but I agree with the above posts on patience with Rush. Also, I think that JOB is more apt than most coaches to play the hot hand and Watson and D. Jones were hot last night. But I get your frustration, I occasionally watch mid 90s Pacer games just to remember when we were good. At least we can all say we were here in valley when the peak comes in a couple of years.
by TheHawk5 on Oct 29, 2009 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

















