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Draft And Trades Just The First Step

First of all, huge thanks to all the commenters last night and today. Obviously, there's plenty of dissention over the draft day moves made by the Pacers. I think that has come through loud and clear here, yet remained pretty respectful. I really enjoy the debate and and appreciate everyone's ability to express their outrage without devolving into profane name calling. Of course, that's why I always tell people that the Pacers have a classy fan base.

The way the debate has gone, I find myself defending all the moves made last night, which to me boils down to giving up Jerryd Bayless for Brandon (I did it again, typed Kareem first) Rush and Jarrett Jack.  In reality, I'm just defending the clock on the wall. I refuse to make a snap judgment of failure before Rush ever laces 'em up in the L.

The Pacers have embarked on a long rebuilding effort that started with a mish mash of varied and inconsistent talent with bad contracts paralyzing any real change. With the J.O. trade the team created a little breathing room. The roster is already much more cap friendly and next summer will be even more so. That doesn't mean they will go blow the cap space on any ol' player available, but it does give the team flexibility to make more moves if an opportunity opens up.

The team is far from done. We know Tinsley won't be around and there will likely be more players moved between now and the trade deadline next February. Larry Bird, David Morway, and Jim O'Brien have a plan that includes changing the style of play, talent and financial state of the roster, and the overal culture of the organization. Now they are starting to work the plan and it won't be easy. There will be 'bloodshed' along the way, but as long as they keep working the plan I think they're headed in the right direction. Just don't expect it to be pain free.

Here's Chad Ford's analysis of the Pacers' draft.

To evaluate the Pacers, you have to take a step back a day to see how everything unfolded. They traded the chronically injured Jermaine O'Neal and a second-round pick for T.J. Ford, Rasho Nesterovic, Maceo Baston and the No. 17 pick. That means they added a starting point guard coming off a career year, significant cap space in 2009 and a prospect.

Then Indiana swapped No. 11 and Ike Diogu for No. 13 and picked up a solid backup point guard, Jarrett Jack, and a local hero, Josh McRoberts.

So in the course of two days, the Pacers rebuilt their team in a way that improves it now and in the future. The Pacers should be much more exciting to watch with a Ford/Jack/Rush/Mike Dunleavy backcourt. The additions of Hibbert and Nesterovic give them some much-needed size. And with several major expiring contracts, including Nesterovic, Marquis Daniels and Jeff Foster, they'll have some significant trading chips at the trade deadline or real cap space in the summer of 2009.

Kudos to president Larry Bird and general manager David Morway for one of the most sophisticated rebuilding efforts I've seen.

Here are a few other reviews of the trades and draft:

I'm off to the airport so I'll be checking in from Seattle with my next post. Again, thanks for the healthy debate. I love all the passion!!!

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Rebuilding...

Its pretty clear that Larry wants to rebuild.

But rebuild take some time…and the Pacers fans got used to win.
Fans are fans, they will always support the team, but Conseco is getting emptier year after year.

How to deal with that after another disappoiting season? And another? And another?
Boston took a risky step in the last season and now they are the champs.

I’m not saying we should make the same thing, but I think adding pieces to our roster who doesn’t make us any better right now just means we got to wait another couple of years to expect something.

Ford is great but he already had a lot of injury problems in only four seasons, and Jarret Jack doesn’t inspire me much confidence.
Trading someone with injury problems for someonelse with injury problems I would prefer to keep O’Neal…our last idol, our last all star.
I think It would be a better trade J.O for Heirich.

Any way…I’m still looking forward to the next season, but I also was excited about the draft and that became a deception…I hope the season doesn’t ends in the same way.

Brandom Rush is a good promise…so is Jerryd Bayless.
Roy Hibbert is not what I was expecting, but a big guy like him can be what we’ve being waiting for.
The other players are just a bonus…we all know how agressive Maceo can be on the court.
But I still prefer Foster for Nesterovic and Diener for Jack.

My thoughts for the starting team:

Starting Team: Ford – Dunleavy – Granger – Murphy – Foster (It doesn’t change much)
Back Up Team: (Diener/Jack – Daniels/Rush – Rush/Rush/Graham – Williams/Baston/McRoberts – Nesterovic/Hibbert)

I don’t count on Tinsley, Harrison, Owens or Murray for the next season.

This team still doesn’t look like a contender…and if we lose Ford for any injury…we got back where we was before.

Pacers Forever

by Hansel on Jun 27, 2008 3:15 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

“Boston took a risky step in the last season and now they are the champs.”

Um, no they didnt. Whats the risk in trading for Kevin Garnett and Ray Allen. Nothing. Id do that deal 8 days a week.

by RazorShines on Jun 27, 2008 6:59 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

A little optimistic, we are blasted on page one at Fox Sports. Some people are content with the deal (“we needed to clean house”, “At least we didnt totally screw up the draft”) and the dissenting voice is, “Man, we got a gift with the 11th pick by having a top 4 talent fall in our laps. And then we (Larry) screw it up…”

http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/story/8287598/Winners-and-losers-from-NBA-Draft

by RazorShines on Jun 27, 2008 6:57 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Indiana's moves

I’m not really sure why people are bashing Bird’s moves. Is Bayless really considered to be such a better prospect than Rush? Rush has good size for a shooting guard, is a good shooter and really knows how to play. He was also the best player for a championship team. Bird loves him just like he loved Danny Granger. That worked out.

Bird unloaded a player who’s way past his prime (O’Neal), got both a decent starting point guard (T.J. Ford) and a backup point guard (Jarrett Jack), and I think Hibbert was a good pick for #17. Great size, and he proved himself on the highest level. They’re also about $16 million under cap. What more can you ask for?

by Miguel90 on Jun 27, 2008 9:20 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Exactly!!!!!

After thinking about it, I kind of like Bird’s moves

by pacers33 on Jun 28, 2008 12:32 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

So we're one Ford injury away from...

Rick-y Rub-io! Clap clap clapclapclap

That’s the real upside for me.

by SethGrandpa on Jun 27, 2008 11:33 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Trade of Picks

We heard on the radio that the Rush/Bayless swap occured BEFORE the picks were made, thus making it a swap of the 11 for the 13 and Jack/McRoberts. Then we picked Bayless for them and they picked Rush for us. This scenario makes a little more sense, but I haven’t been able to get any real confirmation of it. Has anyone else heard that?

18to88.com

by deshawn zombie on Jun 28, 2008 8:01 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The deal was announced so quickly

that the parameters had to be pre-determined assuming the players involved were available. Just my thought, haven’t heard any confirmation.

by Cornrows on Jun 28, 2008 9:45 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Portland fan here

It looks like the deal was made before the picks. Here’s a quote from Blazer broadcaster Mike Barrett:

In our draft-day meeting with Pritchard, he told us one thing several times, and we didn’t really catch on. He said simply that “Indiana will select a point guard.” I replied, “why would they do that when they just traded for T.J. Ford?” He repeated, “Indiana will select a point guard.” I should have gotten the hint, but didn’t.

After that exchange, Pritchard asked us who we’d pick if we were in charge, Westbrook or Augustin? After we’d all given our answers, he said, “what about Jerryd Bayless?” Looking back, as the draft was unfolding, it all began to make perfect sense. KP also said if he would have been asked for his mock draft, Thursday morning, it would have been spot on- at least through the first 15 picks.

"Inside every cynical person, there is a disappointed idealist." -- RIP George Carlin

by Corvid on Jun 30, 2008 5:34 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Chad Ford

said the deal was agreed too before Bayless was even picked. The Blazers were afraid the kings were going to draft Bayless so they called the Pacers and offered them Jack/McRoberts and the 13th pick for the 11th pick and Diogu. Bird was going to pick Rush no matter what.

by rturk89 on Jun 28, 2008 1:03 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I assure you your getting a guy that will get it done in indy if ford wont.
Jack is a pitbull willing to do anything to please, he started almost every game in the 06-07 season, and only 10ish in the 07-08 eason, the first ten, for some reason he went into a slump at the jump of the 07-08 season, but did beautifully off the bench, a real spark plug if you will. He’s better at driving and scoring than he is at driving with the intent to dish, but he was getting better at it. Not too hot running a break, but he’s been reined in so much since his georgia tech day’s…
if I had to say anything bad about jack it’d have to do with unforced turnovers….just silly mistakes early on in the games….
other than that,
I’ll be missing him.

Josh, well…what don’t indy know about josh right?

and I’d have been pleased getting rush if indiana didn’t want to swap. kinda save’s ya’ll some cash in the long run as I understand it….not much but some…anyway, go get em, and have a great offseason…

The Faith

by faith on Jun 29, 2008 10:44 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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