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Bucks 121, Pacers 103: Now What?

The Indiana Pacers dumped their sixth game in a row on Saturday night, this time to the Milwaukee Buck, 121-103.

If you see people around town gazing at the sky with a bewildered look tomorrow, they're likely Pacer fans. The levels of incredulity this team evokes continues to astound and amaze.

Unless you're watching these games closely throughout, you have no idea what a roller coaster of freakish emotion this team can take you on. Consider the first half, with Roy Hibbert starting for Rasho Nesterovic, the Pacers jump out to a quick lead. Then just as quickly, the turnovers start to mount, the team energy dissipates and the Bucks take the lead.

Charlie "FRICKIN" Villanueva comes off the bench to score 24 first half points, twice his season average for whole games. The Pacers go to the locker room at halftime down 18.

Oh, well at least they played them even the rest of the way, you say? Ahem, come here so I can punch you in the nose.

Yes, the final deficit was 18, but no, they didn't play them even the rest of the way. They actually outplayed the Bucks throughout the third quarter and 7 minutes and 20 seconds into the fourth. The Pacers actually rallied from a 21-point hole early in the third to take the lead in the fourth quarter. With 4:40 left, the Pacers were up 103-102.

Then the Bucks not only outplayed the Pacers but seemed to be the only team playing as they finished the game on a 19-0 run.

I just can't get into as much detail as I'd like to right now because it is too late and I'm too sour, so I'll leave you with a couple of positives to ponder.

First, T.J. Ford bounced back after the tough finish in Detroit to pump in 27 points on only 8-14 shooting. He also dished out 6 helpers and really pushed the Pacers in their second half comeback bid.

Secondly, Brandon Rush played his best game of the year. You notice he's the only player with a positive +/- (+6) and that's because he was in and contributed heavily to the third quarter comeback. Rush finished with 16 points, knocking down a couple of 3-ball and snagging a couple of steals. He held up well at the defensive end, too.

And when I say this was the best game Rush played it was because he simply played. He let his instincts loose and didn't hold back. The pair of turnaround one-handers were evidence enough that he felt real good on the floor and was prepared to make an impact. In hindsight, I wish he was left on the court to finish the game. He may have worn out but neither Marquis Daniels nor Danny Granger could slow down the late collapse so he wouldn't have done any worse.

The Pacers are stuck in a hole now which I almost welcome at this point. We'll see who is willing and able (I actually think they're all willing) to dig themselves out. Forget the playoffs, this team is in evaluation mode. Seeing who reacts how should make the next few games very interesting.

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Roy Hibbert finished in second place in the plus-minus with a “0.” Even though
he only snagged two rebounds, he showed enough good offense and good
defense (and good foul avoidance) to get me intrigued a bit.

by fanaticus on Dec 14, 2008 12:03 AM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Sky Gazing

Looks like rain in the forecast for tomorrow…

by goodlucksaturday on Dec 14, 2008 12:05 AM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Another late-game 24-second violation ends all offensive momentum and, in a sweet new development this time, also leads to a precipitous defense drop-off that results in a 19-0 run to end the game. YAAAAAAY.

BothTeamsPlayedHard.net

by Both Teams Played Hard on Dec 14, 2008 12:47 AM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yikes

Wow, not scoring in the final 4 plus minutes of the 4th. This is becoming an epidemic. Oh and to hammer home my earlier point: J Jack a -20 with one assist in 30 minutes…

by Naptown in Ptown on Dec 14, 2008 3:09 AM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You know that Blake Griffin guy would look pretty good in a Pacers uni...

Oh let’s not kid ourselves…the team isn’t that bad. At least I don’t think so…

by SethGrandpa on Dec 14, 2008 4:34 AM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

it's official, the pacers suck

so sad, come all star break OB is fired, then Tinsley, Foster, and M.Daniels are traded to either Charlotte, Golden State, Philidelphia or Minnesota for !#$#$. L.Bird is fired in June before the Pacers inherit 12th in the draft, it’s so sad being a small market team. At least my other teams are the Bengals and the Reds so I know dissapointment, well, poor D.Granger. oh, Dunleavey is out for the season, sounds like Jermaine O’Neil, glad the Simons have the money.

by pinche on Dec 14, 2008 4:49 AM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You're joking...right?

pinche, there is NO way what you just said will happen. Let’s start from the beginning,

1) OB is not going to be fired. Bird loves him and considering they completely retooled this team to make it more suitable to his coaching style, I doubt he’ll get fired mid-season, maybe in the off season. I’m pretty sure regardless of the outcome of this season we’ll see OB leading this team next season.

2) Trading Tinsley, Foster, and Daniels: While I hope the first happens, I could possibly see the second happening (but for who?), I doubt Daniels gets traded. He’s improved a great deal, and while that ups his trade value, the Pacers need depth to their bench and he’ll be an even more important part of this team when Dunleavy returns.

3) No way Bird gets fired. This franchise has sacrificed too much for him to just let go of him at this point. The Simons love Basketball Jesus and we pretty much let go of the man who built the powerhouse that was the Pacers in the 90’s to keep him. Bird, like O’Brien will be here next year.

4) Also reports are that Dunleavy is going to be resuming individual workouts soon, if he hasn’t already. He’ll play this season, there’s no doubt in that, but when and at what level is still questionable.

5) Finally, the Pacers don’t suck. We’re young, we’re making mistakes, but we don’t suck. We blew another game. It’s going to happen. Yet since our schedule is evening out and we’re playing a lot of sub-.500 teams in the coming days. If we can win 5 of the next 9 I think we’ll be getting back on track. Yes, I know that means we’ll be 12-20, but let’s stop the bleeding and then we can worry about the playoff picture.

by Peter_sixtyftsixin on Dec 14, 2008 12:42 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Everyone predicted a win in this one.

The Pacers have had an unfairly tough schedule. The close games against Boston, Detroit etc. and the fight we put up in those games gave us all an unfair and maybe skewed expectations once we came up against a team that is in the bottom half of the league. We all wanted to see the Pacers win by 20 points in this one but Milwaukee is no bunch of bums and they have a very good coach. Scott Skiles’ team are always going to play defense, bang the boards (box out) and move the ball. I believe the Pacer’s thought this game was going to be an easy one and found something totally different waiting for them.

Fatigue and a better Milwaukee team than what they saw last year.

Troy could not keep up with the very athletic and surprisingly hot shooting Charlie V. We had no answers for the underrated big man Bogut. Granger and Daniels both seem to be tired and the box scores from Richard Jefferson and Redd showed that. A healthy Michael Redd has to be shadowed all game. Kudos to Brandon Rush the best Pacer on the court and in the box score +16 in the box. BR is almost all the way out of his shell and I can see if him going for 25-30pts in a game real soon.

Roy starting was a good look, seeing him start was like taking a glimpse into the future. Here me out, Rasho is more accustomed to coming off the bench and seemed to be a calming influence on the second unit. Starting Hibbert next to Foster has the potential to improve our post play a great deal. If Big Roy can get 22-28 minutes a game and establish an ability to score in the post, we already know what Jeff Foster is our going to bring to the lineup being our best post defender & rebounder. (Timely three pointers) . The potential change could have a great impact on the struggling to score second unit with Troy hitting threes and Rasho facilitating I can only see improvement.

I love lottery picks but don’t necessarily want one. Here is to a win against Washington please don’t let Brendan Hayward be playing

by Man of Pace on Dec 15, 2008 2:36 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

60 feet 6 inches

Stick to baseball. I could not even reply to some of the stuff in your post. You obviously were just looking to fill some time when you wrote that and have no idea about 2008/09 Pacers basketball.

by Man of Pace on Dec 15, 2008 2:40 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

60 feet 6 in I apppologize ... I meant pinche

pinche read it 2 times .. .and I am sorry sixtyftsixin

by Man of Pace on Dec 15, 2008 2:44 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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